Pro-Hamas Rallies in Canada

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Sure, and our First Nations should celebrate a Settlers Day in honour of how benign their colonization was. I

No no, they should rise up and slaughter thousands of innocent people, rape women, burn children to death and start a war with Canada. They are totally justified according to you and should immediately take that action because it would certainly result in a better life for them. I mean, wouldn't you?

Read that back to yourself and listen to how stupid it sounds.

The first nations have made huge leaps and bounds by working with governments and people over time to protect their culture and have their say in a larger community. If Palestine had done the same thing for the last 80 or 90 years they would have their own state, they would have huge rights and be successful and prosperous

Instead they have chosen to line their children up, stand behind them and shoot at the Israelis just so they can pose with their children's dead bodies and pretend to cry for international political points

These guys do not deserve your support

[WestCanMan]

59 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Sure, and our First Nations should celebrate a Settlers Day in honour of how benign their colonization was. It's like you're suggesting Palestinians should put on the shoes of someone from Pakistan to get a sense of the appreciation you're prescribing for them.

So you figure because two wrongs make a right Palestinians should just get over it? You seem to have a really poor understanding of human nature.

Is that what you would do?

None of that is true.

I'm saying that it's the height of hypocrisy for Iran, Saudi, Yemen, Egypt, etc to be furious about Palestine, given their acceptance of Pakistan, which is several times worse than Israel.

You can be mad about anything you want, including the existence of Israel, I don't know how you feel about Pakistan. 

Iran et al have no room to accept one and reject the other. It's nothing but religious bigotry. 

[I am Groot]

On 5/21/2024 at 5:26 PM, eyeball said:

None of it can withstand a simple challenge to describe what you people would do if it is was you.

Seek accommodation. Don't blow up pizza shops. Don't murder old men. Don't rape and murder young women and children. None of these things is going to make anyone but the jaded Left in the West like you. Of course, since they've been doing that shit for decades they've hardened whatever hearts in Israel might have been willing to deal with them.

So now, all they need to do is leave. Just go somewhere else. Israel is never going to give them their own country. It would make absolutely no sense, from their perspective, to do so. Why would they let a pack of murderous savages set up a full fledged country with much bigger weapons and armies right next to them? Go live in some other Arab shithole where everyone is exactly like you anyway. Where they speak the same language, practice the same religion and have the same culture - except maybe they're less suicidally stupid. Gaza and the West Bank are lost causes. Leave. 

[I am Groot]

On 5/22/2024 at 3:49 PM, eyeball said:

Sure, and our First Nations should celebrate a Settlers Day in honour of how benign their colonization was.

They colonized each other's land by murdering every man, woman and child they could get their hands on. 

And if the Arabs had won that first war there'd have been no Jews left alive in Israel.

[eyeball]

7 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

None of these things is going to make anyone but the jaded Left in the West like you.

Ah, you must be a pedophile that likes little boys. That's the only reason you didn't see what you liked on Oct 7.

[eyeball]

9 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

They colonized each other's land by murdering every man, woman and child they could get their hands on. 

And if the Arabs had won that first war there'd have been no Jews left alive in Israel.

You just gave your pre-approval to anyone who wants to do the same now and in the future.

Good job.

[CdnFox]

12 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You just gave your pre-approval to anyone who wants to do the same now and in the future.

Good job.

How? How is admitting a truth from history somehow giving approval to people doing something similar in the future. If I say the Nazi started world war II does that somehow make it that I'm advocating someone starts a war in the future?

You're getting to that magical point where you start blathering like a fool.  Make sense. 

[I am Groot]

The funding and organization for all these Pro-Hamas, Anti-Jewish demonstrations and occupations is coming across the border and should be halted. We should ban any funding from any non-Canadian source that seeks to influence Canada or the Canadian government.

A series of U.S. probes into anti-Israel funding streams is providing early clues into the financing and organization underlying Canada’s own network of “pro-Palestinian” encampments, protests and blockades.

The letter is addressed to National Students for Justice in Palestine (National SJP), an organization whose Canadian affiliates include Solidarity for Palestinian Human Rights, the central organizer of an illegal Palestine Solidarity Encampment on the campus of McGill University.

The McGill chapter of Solidarity for Palestinian Human Rights (SPHR) was behind a March blockade of the site of the Montreal Holocaust Museum as well as several targeted shutdowns of McGill’s Bronfman Building, which is named after Jewish philanthropist Samuel Bronfman.

In recent weeks, McGill administrators have denounced SPHR for “threatening” tactics, including hanging Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in effigy, and dispatching masked crowds to the homes of school administrators.

National JSP itself is open about its Canadian operations, writing on its website that it supports “two hundred Palestine solidarity organizations on college campuses across occupied Turtle Island (U.S. and Canada).”

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/u-s-probes-provide-clues-to-where-canadas-anti-israel-money-is-coming-from

[I am Groot]

 It's urgent Canada follows the money in the anti-Israel protests

 

In 2012, the Institute for the Study of Global Antisemitism and Policy (ISGAP) launched its “Follow the Money” project.

“The project revealed, for the first time, the existence of substantial Middle Eastern funding (primarily from Qatar) to U.S. universities that had not been reported to the Department of Education, as required by law,” ISGAP reported. “Foreign donations from Qatar, especially, have had a substantial impact on fomenting growing levels of antisemitic discourse and campus politics at U.S. universities, as well as growing support for anti-democratic values within these institutions of higher education.”

Qatar, along with Iran, is a principal patron of Hamas. It is a savvy complement to fund Hamas-friendly operations on campus. ISGAP reports that Columbia University, epicentre for Hamas-friendly campus activism, has received nearly US$3.5 million from Qatar. ISGAP reports that Columbia has not reported this money, as required by law.

 

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/its-urgent-canada-follows-the-money-in-the-anti-israel-protests

[WestCanMan]

7 hours ago, I am Groot said:

 It's urgent Canada follows the money in the anti-Israel protests

 

In 2012, the Institute for the Study of Global Antisemitism and Policy (ISGAP) launched its “Follow the Money” project.

“The project revealed, for the first time, the existence of substantial Middle Eastern funding (primarily from Qatar) to U.S. universities that had not been reported to the Department of Education, as required by law,” ISGAP reported. “Foreign donations from Qatar, especially, have had a substantial impact on fomenting growing levels of antisemitic discourse and campus politics at U.S. universities, as well as growing support for anti-democratic values within these institutions of higher education.”

Qatar, along with Iran, is a principal patron of Hamas. It is a savvy complement to fund Hamas-friendly operations on campus. ISGAP reports that Columbia University, epicentre for Hamas-friendly campus activism, has received nearly US$3.5 million from Qatar. ISGAP reports that Columbia has not reported this money, as required by law.

 

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/its-urgent-canada-follows-the-money-in-the-anti-israel-protests

That's honestly the perfect word for this. The whole point of even having 'refugee camps' for 75 years was to foment hatred against Israel.

Generations of Palestinian children have grown up in poverty and strife just to keep the hatred of Israel going. 

[CdnFox]

10 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

That's honestly the perfect word for this. The whole point of even having 'refugee camps' for 75 years was to foment hatred against Israel.

Generations of Palestinian children have grown up in poverty and strife just to keep the hatred of Israel going. 

You can't instigate a revolution whenever you like if you don't keep a huddled mass handy. 

[impartialobserver]

It appears that the fervor on this topic has died down. Give it time.. it will flare back up. Lather, rinse, and repeat. 

[eyeball]

11 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

The whole point of even having 'refugee camps' for 75 years was to foment hatred against Israel

A forever war was the goal all long was it?

Sounds about right.

[WestCanMan]

22 minutes ago, eyeball said:

A forever war was the goal all long was it?

Sounds about right.

No, the eventual genocide against the Jews has always been the goal. 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

No, the eventual genocide against the Jews has always been the goal. 

Must have been God's plan.

[WestCanMan]

5 hours ago, eyeball said:

Must have been God's plan.

Are you saying that you don't believe it was the plan of Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Lebanon, Syria, Iran, etc, right from the beginning?

What was their goal when they attacked Israel on Day of their existence eyeball?

On day 1 of Pakistan's was partition, they ethnically cleansed that region and none of the muslim nations cared at all. 

Then on day 1 of Israel's partition 7 of the nations who ❤️ Pakistan all attacked Israel with the goal of....? What eyeball? Finish that sentence, dummy..

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Are you saying that you don't believe it was the plan of Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Lebanon, Syria, Iran, etc, right from the beginning?

No, not right from the beginning.  Some of the regimes in these places have certainly deteriorated and become odious enough since then but aside from that I think the whole notion of genocide is an overplayed overblown one myself. 

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

What was their goal when they attacked Israel on Day of their existence eyeball?

To deny that existence...for the same reasons we didn't wan't hundreds of thousands and millions of Jewish refugees.

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

On day 1 of Pakistan's was partition, they ethnically cleansed that region and none of the muslim nations cared at all.

I find it very hard to believe there weren't several sympathetic people in these countries that were as appalled as you and me with this.  What did Canada do about it btw?  Have you written anyone a stern letter regarding this?

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Then on day 1 of Israel's partition 7 of the nations who ❤️ Pakistan all attacked Israel with the goal of....?

Like I said they were trying to prevent the creation of Israel.  It certainy didn't have anything to do with Pakistan.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Like I said they were trying to prevent the creation of Israel.  It certainy didn't have anything to do with Pakistan

And what's their excuse now? Oh right. 1948. 

[WestCanMan]

14 hours ago, eyeball said:

To deny that existence...

How far do you think they were going to go in their attempt to "deny that existence"? 

And when you answer, just remember that they were all ok with what Pakistan did.

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I find it very hard to believe there weren't several sympathetic people in these countries that were as appalled as you and me with this. 

They were so upset about the <500 people killed in 1948 Israel that they've been at war with Israel since 1948. They've never recognized Israel's sovereignty.

The Pakistanis killed between 800,000 and 1M Sikhs and Hindus, drove 8M people out of their homes, and Iran recognized Pakistan's sovereignty right on their very first day as a country on 14 Aug 1947. They've never reconsidered. Pakistan is just a-ok in Iran's books. 

You and Iran share a lot of the same opinions. 

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Like I said they were trying to prevent the creation of Israel.  It certainy didn't have anything to do with Pakistan.

To you there's no connection, because you're 10,000 miles away from that region, looking back 80 years.

Iran was right beside Pakistan when that massacre happened. They literally share a border. Iran was 800 km away from Israel in 1948. 

Are you telling me that there wasn't a sense of "look at what we got away with right here, just last year"? 

Iraq is one country away from Pakistan and 1 country away from Israel. Do you think that they had already forgotten what Pakistan got away with less than a year earlier? 

Buddy, what was "normal and acceptable" to the ME countries in 1947 was still normal and acceptable just a few months later. It's ridiculous to assume that it wasn't.

If the ME nations won their war and massacred every single Israeli, IRANIAN LEADERS WOULD HAVE ESTABLISHED DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS WITH PALESTINE LATER THAT DAY, EVEN IF THEY HAD TO DRIVE THEIR CARS  ACROSS THE BODIES OF 200,000 DEAD JEWISH CHILDREN TO DO IT. Do you think I'm exaggerating even a little bit? Do you think that Iran would still be "at war", and refusing to recognize the existence of Palestine as a state 80 years later? Or would they have normalized relations with Palestine right away, like they did with Pakistan?

I know the answer, 1,000%. There's no grey area here whatsoever. Iranians would have danced on those dead bodies and there would be no hard feelings whatsoever, just like with Pakistan, less than a year earlier.

If you think I'm wrong, please explain it, because no one else has ever been able to do so. I will literally reshape my entire opinion of shithole countries. 

Edited June 15, 2024 by WestCanMan

[eyeball]

13 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Do you think I'm exaggerating even a little bit? 

Yes, on top of just making up shit.

[WestCanMan]

4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Yes, on top of just making up shit.

1 So you don't think that Iran would be on good terms with Palestine right now if they had managed to kill all the Jews in Israel?  Can you please form that into your own sentence? I want to quote you on that, not just on you stupidly answering "yes".

2 What was made up? Do you think there wasn't a slaughter in Pakistan in 1947? Do you think that Iran didn't establish relations with Pakistan on day 1 of their existence? What was made up, stupid?

 

Read this, stupid: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calls_for_the_destruction_of_Israel

Edited June 15, 2024 by WestCanMan

[WestCanMan]

@eyeball @Gaétan @ExFlyer: If the ME nations won their 1948 war and massacred every single Israeli, IRANIAN LEADERS WOULD HAVE ESTABLISHED DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS WITH PALESTINE LATER THAT DAY, EVEN IF THEY HAD TO DRIVE THEIR CARS  ACROSS THE BODIES OF 200,000 DEAD JEWISH CHILDREN TO DO IT.

[eyeball]

7 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

So you don't think that Iran would be on good terms with Palestine right now if they had managed to kill all the Jews in Israel? 

I have no idea. Iran has been such a source of regional instability ever since Britain talked the US into overthrowing democracy there.  Iran could just as easily hate Palestinians for being way more moderate than the religious lunatics running Iran.

9 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

What was made up?

That Pakistan has anything to do with Israel/Palestine. The only common thing between all three is that these conflicts all have roots in Britain's geopolitical vandalism.

[I am Groot]

12 hours ago, eyeball said:

I have no idea. Iran has been such a source of regional instability ever since Britain talked the US into overthrowing democracy there.  Iran could just as easily hate Palestinians for being way more moderate than the religious lunatics running Iran.

They're not. They want to build an Islamic state just like Iran has, complete with Sharia law. This is what Palestinians voted for 17 years ago. And Hamas has had control of their media, schools and society since then so I rather doubt they've become more moderate. 

 

12 hours ago, eyeball said:

That Pakistan has anything to do with Israel/Palestine. The only common thing between all three is that these conflicts all have roots in Britain's geopolitical vandalism.

The roots of Pakistan/India come from centuries of Muslim invasions, genocide, and conversion by the sword. That's how most of the people in the northern part of the Indian subcontinent came to be Muslims. The British occupation merely put a temporary hold on the internecine slaughter.

[WestCanMan]

14 hours ago, eyeball said:

I have no idea.

Yes you do. You know the answer. You just can't admit to it because it exposes how foolish your ME id10cy is.

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Iran has been such a source of regional instability ever since Britain talked the US into overthrowing democracy there. 

FYI 1948 and 1967 came before 1979, stupid. Do you think the 1979 revolution would have changed the Iran gov't's attitudes 30 years before it happened? 

It would have been the same Iranian gov't in 1948, and the same country again in 1967.  

Furthermore, the Iranian gov't is even more radical and bigoted than it was before 1979, so of course they'd support a genocide against Israel. FYI the Quds force is comprised of all of Iran's elite military units and it is entirely dedicated to terrorism and the destruction of Israel.  

Can you name another country on earth whose elite forces are all dedicated to terrorism and ethnical cleansing? The Quds force isn't for the defence of Iran, they're just for massacring Jews and committing terrorist attacks. 

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Iran could just as easily hate Palestinians for being way more moderate than the religious lunatics running Iran.

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That Pakistan has anything to do with Israel/Palestine.

Just because you don't understand why Iran's attitude towards Pakistan is germane to this discussion about Israel doesn't mean anything. Your ignorance and stupidity are legendary here.

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The only common thing between all three is that these conflicts all have roots in Britain's geopolitical vandalism.

And before that it was Ottoman political vandalism, along with their 600 years of codified islamic religious bigotry.

Before them it was the Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Greeks, Romans, Byzantines, and the Islamic Caliphate (and more centuries of codified islamic religious bigotry).

But "OMG, BRITAIN!!!!!  EMPIRES ARE BAD!!! "