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17 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Regiment, Colours, Commander-in-Chief

from the Heights of Queenston to Hill One Four Five at Pas de Calais

Canada Bereft broods over the fallen

Cuidich 'n Righ

 

9 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Pipe Major, sound the lament

Christ doogy...can you get you ass and brain (maybe both the same place LOL) out of yesteryear???

No one gives a shit about your short part time play date and even less when we are discussing the soldier issues of today.

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9 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

F-35's and Leopard II tanks are no help in emergencies like earthquakes and floods.

No, but they help deter attacks. Especially when a collective of nations are reasonably well-equipped with them so that warlords like Putin and Xi refrain from attacking.

9 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

We do not use the military for civil disorder. We have police for that.

Canada has the lowest number of police per capita of any major western country. Far less than most of our European peers. And too little to control any sort of widespread civil disturbances or emergency situations posed by large, armed groups.  Are you at one and the same time claiming there could be huge problems from global warming in the coming years, and no widespread civil disturbances or incidents?

What about when AI begins to put a lot of young men out of work, especially young men with low skills such as the millions we've brought over from the third world? What happens when all the Uber and taxi drivers, all the truck and bus and taxi drivers, all the doordash drivers and even many of the retail and hospitality workers are replaced by AI and automated equipment? What do we do with all those young men? What are they going to do with us?

9 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

If there is a Russian attack against NATO, it will result in a general nuclear exchange.

No, it will not. You keep saying this as though it were inevitable. It's not. You think the US is going to launch nukes against Russia to preserve the territorial integrity of Norway, Denmark, Poland? Italy? Greece? I don't. 

9 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

F-35's and tanks would be irrelevant.

Perhaps you should let all the Western governments who think otherwise know this. They don't seem to be aware. 

9 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

That is incorrect, What we are doing now will affect the global population in about two centuries.

Oh, for Gods sakes! Listen to yourself! You haven't the slightest clue what sort of technology will be around in fifty years, never mind two hundred years! You don't know what science will be developed in terms of both energy production and global cooling systems. Especially with the aid of AI, which is soon going to grow more powerful at exponential rates. 

And in any event, nothing Canada does is going to make any sort of impact on world CO2 emissions. We're too small, and the developing world is too big.

 

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On 4/17/2024 at 12:35 PM, Queenmandy85 said:

NATO will no longer have the US as a reliable partner after President Trump moves back into the Oval Office. Russia will be be sorely tempted to recover the former Warsaw Pact slave states. Ukraine has been a valuable lesson for the Russian military. They ignored the  doctrine established by the Soviets of opening an offensive with an overwhelming artillery barrage because they miscalculated and failed to use sufficient force.

On the unlikely scenario where the Russian army does not include nuclear artillery, they will hit NATO with everything they have in their conventional arsenal. They will have replenished their tanks lost in Ukraine.

Scenario 1.  If they break through, how do you imagine France will react when the Russians are advancing on the Rhine in force? French and British forces will nuke the bejeezus out of the Russians.

Scenario 2. If the Russians get bogged down in the German killing zones and suffer heavy losses, they will not have the conventional forces left to stop a counter attack and subsequent invasion of Russia. What do you think they will do? Nuke the bejeezus out of NATO (including the US.)

There are other scenarios but they all result in the same conclusion.

Which ever scenario you choose, it will result in an all out strategic nuclear exchange. The Canadian Forces will have no impact on the result.

A strong conventional NATO will make that less likely because it will deter Russia from attacking with conventional forces and make it less likely that NATO would have to use them. Being weak in any area does not make you more secure.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/wayne-eyre-bill-blair-armed-forces-recruitment-1.7177911

 

We might end up with a bunch of new equipment and no one to operate it.

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On 4/18/2024 at 1:33 PM, Queenmandy85 said:

F-35's and Leopard II tanks are no help in emergencies like earthquakes and floods. We do not use the military for civil disorder. We have police for that. If the US ever does invade, is conventional resistance worth the death toll? I suspect we would resign ourselves to it. If there is a Russian attack against NATO, it will result in a general nuclear exchange. F-35's and tanks would be irrelevant. It is NATO's nuclear weapons that deter Russia, not conventional forces. Ironically, a build up of NATO's conventional forces weakens deterrence, but signalling an attack on NATO would be answered conventionally. Deterrence relies on the guarantee that crossing the frontier would result in total nuclear destruction. 

 

We have deployed Leopards with blades to assist with removal of transmission towers that where destroyed in the ice storm, same as the winnipeg floods, we deployed IFV tanks, and engineer equipment because of the water levels were to high for most trucks, and some roads were washed out...to evac people that got stranded and to deliver sandbags and supplies across vast areas that were flooded...

As for civil disorder, military has been deployed to Oka, during both world wars, to crush union strikes in which resulted in many being shoot...the conscription crises military was used to counter riots...take a look at the liberals wanted to use tanks to remove the convoy, yes it was all talk but the fact remains someone brought it up and had asked...in all these cases police did not have what it took to solve the issues...

Many of us have joked around about what we would do if the US military attacked....but i suspect most would do their jobs until our government surrendered...once the fight starts it is hard to make it stop...many Canadian soldiers would die doing their job...it would be a short ands sweet battle but never underestimate our soldiers...I find it kind of funney that most people think our military would cave at the sight of the US military...but as undermanned as we have been we have always picked up our nations flag and held it on the battlefield...all for a ungrateful country...that can't even give their vets proper benefits...the funny part is most Canadians take pride in how badly we treat those that take up arms for our country...

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16 hours ago, Army Guy said:

We have deployed Leopards with blades to assist with removal of transmission towers that where destroyed in the ice storm, same as the winnipeg floods, we deployed IFV tanks, and engineer equipment because of the water levels were to high for most trucks, and some roads were washed out...to evac people that got stranded and to deliver sandbags and supplies across vast areas that were flooded...

As for civil disorder, military has been deployed to Oka, during both world wars, to crush union strikes in which resulted in many being shoot...the conscription crises military was used to counter riots...take a look at the liberals wanted to use tanks to remove the convoy, yes it was all talk but the fact remains someone brought it up and had asked...in all these cases police did not have what it took to solve the issues...

Many of us have joked around about what we would do if the US military attacked....but i suspect most would do their jobs until our government surrendered...once the fight starts it is hard to make it stop...many Canadian soldiers would die doing their job...it would be a short ands sweet battle but never underestimate our soldiers...I find it kind of funney that most people think our military would cave at the sight of the US military...but as undermanned as we have been we have always picked up our nations flag and held it on the battlefield...all for a ungrateful country...that can't even give their vets proper benefits...the funny part is most Canadians take pride in how badly we treat those that take up arms for our country...

I continue to defer to your expertise in military matters. Where you and I differ, I feel no shame in saying you know what you are talking about and I don't.

 

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55 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

I continue to defer to your expertise in military matters. Where you and I differ, I feel no shame in saying you know what you are talking about and I don't.

 

Queen i do not respond to your post just to make you feel shame, i do it to help you understand the topic, not only you but others as well that read these posts..., Most Canadians don't understand what our military does or how it does it...even i do not fully understand the entire topic...Shaming anyone is not my intention, rather trying to share my experience and knowledge that i had in the military.

I thought i was very forthcoming about admitting my mistakes or when i did not know what i was talking about, I hope you would feel free to call me out on any topic that you think i'm full of sh*t...One of the key reason i'm here on this forum is to learn from others either by asking question or doing research on a vast array of topics, and lastly being corrected on something i thought was right. 

 

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