Why God permit the evil? Answer:

[TreeBeard]

2 hours ago, User said:

I pointed out it was clearly non-fiction

Do you believe Jonah was swallowed by a “great fish” and survived living in the fish for 3 days and 3 nights?

 

 

[French Patriot]

On 9/15/2024 at 4:31 PM, User said:

I don't argue

I am especially good at it.

That is why I can knowingly say that the ones who love the genocidal Yahweh and his Armageddon bringing sidekick are quite evil. 

I found my God in the Bible but he is not your proick of a God.

Try reading your Bible for the first time. 

Your vile morals will improve.

[French Patriot]

On 9/17/2024 at 10:08 AM, Yakuda said:

The effect of less God is evil. 

Statistically, this is a lie in the real world.

Most stats for most evils are at the best rates than we have ever enjoyed.

Check Prof. Pinker's stats so as to know the truth.

[User]

5 minutes ago, French Patriot said:

I am especially good at it.

That is why I can knowingly say that the ones who love the genocidal Yahweh and his Armageddon bringing sidekick are quite evil. 

I found my God in the Bible but he is not your proick of a God.

Try reading your Bible for the first time. 

Your vile morals will improve.

You butchered my comment and responded to it deceptively as if it was something it wasn't. 

I have read enough of The Bible to dispute the garbage you spew effortlessly. 

What morals of mine are vile? We have not talked about them. 

[French Patriot]

6 hours ago, Yakuda said:

That's exactly what atheist thinks God should have done. 

Another flat out lie.

Atheists do, not believe in a God so cannot opine on what your fictional genocidal God would do.

[French Patriot]

4 hours ago, User said:

That is fair, I think I will amend my statement to be more clear on thinking it is odd that someone who thinks so little of The Bible and Christianity and is quite clearly very ignorant of both, thinks they are now capable of having complex and nuanced discussions on what The Bible actually says to the point as to proclaim what I should and should not be believing. 

Hey, stupid.

I am a Gnostic Christian and respect the biblical parts that helped me recognize how immoral your view is.

The Jesus I know is not the Jesus you do. Mine was real while yours was imaginarily born thanks to Constantine and Christianity introducing inquisitions and the Dark Ages.

That is why we are known as the good Christians. 

[User]

27 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Do you believe Jonah was swallowed by a “great fish” and survived living in the fish for 3 days and 3 nights?

 

 

If you believe in God at all, with a divine power, would it be so impossible to believe such a thing happened?

Either way, there are several ways to view that: as a allegory, a parable, or literal history with some arguments to support any of those views. 

I think most arguments, from the Biblical perspective and Jesus's even mentioning of the event, point to it being a true story. 

In the grand scheme of Christianity, how you take it is not a huge deal. 

[TreeBeard]

1 minute ago, User said:

would it be so impossible to believe such a thing happened?

Absolutely.  Believing in magic makes any absurdity possible. 

[French Patriot]

19 minutes ago, User said:

You butchered my comment and responded to it deceptively as if it was something it wasn't. 

I have read enough of The Bible to dispute the garbage you spew effortlessly. 

What morals of mine are vile? We have not talked about them. 

I have, by critique of your genocidal God.

Your adoration shows your Fascist morals.

Hitler, Stalin, Yahweh or your Jesus. All the same.

You say moral I say not. I am wright and you are wrong.

Learn how to do decent apologetics. 

One here is actually trying to help you be one.

[User]

13 minutes ago, French Patriot said:

I am a Gnostic Christian and respect the biblical parts that helped me recognize how immoral your view is.

A Gnostic Christian? 

That is a bit of a contradiction. The very meaning of Christian is a follower of Christ... if you feel that the God of the Bible is so immoral, why do you profess to be a follower of that God?

 

15 minutes ago, French Patriot said:

The Jesus I know is not the Jesus you do. Mine was real while yours was imaginarily born thanks to Constantine and Christianity introducing inquisitions and the Dark Ages.

Who is this "Jesus" you know and what do you base any of the knowing this "Jesus" on?

 

[User]

5 minutes ago, French Patriot said:

I have, by critique of your genocidal God.

Your adoration shows your Fascist morals.

Hitler, Stalin, Yahweh or your Jesus. All the same.

You say moral I say not. I am wright and you are wrong.

Learn how to do decent apologetics. 

One here is actually trying to help you be one.

What are my fascist morals? You are just arguing in circles. You have yet to identify any morals I have that you are criticizing. It is just vague and meaningless generalizations. 

 

[User]

13 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Absolutely.  Believing in magic makes any absurdity possible. 

Well, a more precise term would be the supernatural. It does not make any absurdity possible. 

 

[French Patriot]

3 minutes ago, User said:

The very meaning of Christian is a follower of Christ

This shows how little you know.

You claim knowledge and want to know mine. Ok. Let me try.

Mine says that Jesus was never anointed to the Christ position.

Can anyone follow Christ, if he is never elected? No.

That means that there are no followers of Christ.

[French Patriot]

5 minutes ago, User said:

What are my fascist morals? You are just arguing in circles. You have yet to identify any morals I have that you are criticizing. It is just vague and meaningless generalizations. 

 

Your not worth my time.

[User]

25 minutes ago, French Patriot said:

Your not worth my time.

Ah yes, you have all day to make vague generalizations, but now that I call you out to name something specific, you don't have the time. 

Perhaps an online forum isn't your thing. Go write in your journal. 

 

Edited September 18, 2024 by User

[User]

29 minutes ago, French Patriot said:

This shows how little you know.

You claim knowledge and want to know mine. Ok. Let me try.

Mine says that Jesus was never anointed to the Christ position.

Can anyone follow Christ, if he is never elected? No.

That means that there are no followers of Christ.

So... you claim to be a follower of Christ but then claim there are no followers of Christ. 

This is not an issue of my lack of knowledge, it is an issue with reconciling the contradictory things you are saying. 

[SkyHigh]

4 hours ago, User said:

I did back up my assertion... then you ran away. 

Apologies if I missed that

I'm all ears now 

[User]

18 minutes ago, SkyHigh said:

Apologies if I missed that

I'm all ears now 

There are only so many active threads in this area of the forum... in fact, I think it is like 2 of them we have been in. This is one of them. I trust you can figure out the other one... 

[SkyHigh]

4 hours ago, User said:

You made no points other than to try to be deliberately insulting. Nothing to respond to. However, if there was something in particular you said that wasn't, and you were really hoping for a direct response to, feel free to point that out. 

No, you compared The Bible to Harry Potter first, I pointed out it was clearly non-fiction in response to that. 

I did back up my assertion... then you ran away. 

 

 

1 minute ago, User said:

There are only so many active threads in this area of the forum... in fact, I think it is like 2 of them we have been in. This is one of them. I trust you can figure out the other one... 

Or you could just say it right now 

[User]

2 hours ago, SkyHigh said:

 

Or you could just say it right now 

I just did. 

[SkyHigh]

2 hours ago, User said:

I just did. 

That's what I thought 

[Yakuda]

17 hours ago, French Patriot said:

Statistically, this is a lie in the real world.

Most stats for most evils are at the best rates than we have ever enjoyed.

Check Prof. Pinker's stats so as to know the truth.

Whatever you say Frenchie 

[Yakuda]

17 hours ago, French Patriot said:

Another flat out lie.

Atheists do, not believe in a God so cannot opine on what your fictional genocidal God would do.

Then why do atheists say God allows evil? Atheists are like 3 year olds. They want to utter God's name when it suits them but low intelligence atheists say they don't opine about God because they don't believe in him. I would try to explain it to you but why? You clearly won't get it. 

[French Patriot]

59 minutes ago, Yakuda said:

Then why do atheists say God allows evil?

I do not hear them saying that, but if some do, it is likely because the bible says God creates goods and evils for his pleasure.

As to sin, Christians sing of Adam's sin a happy fault and necessary to God's plan. They have forgotten how to explain it but I am cannot teach those who will not think.

If you are not sinning, you are not doing what is necessary to your survival.

Competing and not missing or hitting the mark.

Edited September 19, 2024 by French Patriot

[Yakuda]

29 minutes ago, French Patriot said:

I do not hear them saying that, but if some do, it is likely because the bible says God creates goods and evils for his pleasure.

As to sin, Christians sing of Adam's sin a happy fault and necessary to God's plan. They have forgotten how to explain it but I am cannot teach those who will not think.

If you are not sinning, you are not doing what is necessary to your survival.

Competing and not missing or hitting the mark.

Where does the bible say that?