Biden's History of Racism

[Legato]

16 hours ago, Caswell Thomas said:

No...an ACTUAL Source...not the Trumpo Clown Conspiracy.  Or the Pillow Trials and Tribulations. Or the Giuliani Eastman Theory of Taking Over the USA if they LIE Convincingly Enough and throw in a Bunch of obsolete Legal theories!   Because that's all you ever present here....total bull$h+%$ wrapped in blahbullblah, and then present THAT as your truth and think we're gonna listen why you go off on some rant of irrelevant fantasy.   I have been here 4 months and have yet to hear ONE ACTUAL even vaguely persuasive argument on ANY subject. Just you and your fellow MAGGOTS...spouting snake oil and shinola! and not very well either.  Get your act together buddy, the road your friends and you were walking here of all these conspiracies ends tonight.  Your foils will not respond.  

How long have you been dating Rachel Maddow?

[WestCanMan]

9 minutes ago, Legato said:

How long have you been dating Rachel Maddow?

It's a throuple, with Joy Reid as well. 

I'd rather sleep on a pile of snakes myself. 

[Hodad]

6 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

Well they are bringing back segregation now in a number of schools, in the form of black-only exclusive clubs. So that would be going the wrong way according to your interpretation. And I agree.

I say "system racism" means more than that. Here in Canada racism has been eradicated from schools and public institutions, for many years now. Long before the noveau-woke cause reared its head. But racism definitely exists, and it is in the streets, in the homes and in daily dialogue. Not blatantly, even. Not overt, but it's that little bit of an impression you might get when meeting someone racially different. The unspoken feelings we have, the cliques people form in association with those of their kin. That's where the last remnants of racism lie here, and it's very hard to eliminate that. If it even could be or should be eliminated at all.

One remedy is we could all drop our cultural values and thoughts, and wear grey uniforms. The cure is possibly worse than the disease...

Trudeau's "Post-national state"

"Black-only" organizations-- or similar for any minority--are essentially support groups for people who are marginalized. How to deal with, function and thrive in a society that is fundamentally designed by and for white men. Someday, as the world is designed by and for a more inclusive society, those groups won't be necessary. Progress is slow.

I'm a bit skeptical that systemic racism has been eradicated in Canada, which still has a heavy white majority, but I'm confident you're way ahead of us. You're not burdened with the long legacy of slavery and Jim Crow. 

You can't aggressively exclude any entire demographic from good neighborhoods, schools and jobs for a couple centuries and expect the effects to vanish in a couple of generations. We too have a simmering level of individual racism, but the effects are not nearly as harmful as the systemic racism. 

There's a school of "thought" that says Black Americans will be better off if we pretend systemic challenges don't exist, and try to convince them that what they experience isn't real--essentially gaslighting Black America. But that's not really how problems are solved. Problems must be acknowledged, discussed and proactively addressed.

[OftenWrong]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

There's a school of "thought" that says Black Americans will be better off if we pretend systemic challenges don't exist, and try to convince them that what they experience isn't real--essentially gaslighting Black America. But that's not really how problems are solved. Problems must be acknowledged, discussed and proactively addressed.

There is no question in my mind that systemic racism is real and everywhere, but my definition of it is not the same as yours. Neither do I think the solution being put forward going to work. It may do the opposite. We now have black-only theatre events, for example-

National Arts Centre event just for Black-identifying patrons

One white man complained, he could not attend with his black wife. Utterly absurd.

[OftenWrong]

My vision of the future is that this will go too far, it already has but the public will turn against it. A victory for rationality occurred in a small town in Alberta, where the townspeople voted to have rainbow walks and flags removed, as they put it, in the interest of neutrality in public spaces.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/alberta-town-bans-pride-flags/wcm/9949d130-0fbc-4d9c-b925-f8b4eabfd5a9/amp/

That doesn't mean they don't accept people who identify by any specific number of vowels and consonants. Fill your boots, as we Canadians say. With what, is up to you.

Of topic I know. But hey, yes, Joe Biden's really really white.    

Edited February 25, 2024 by OftenWrong

[Hodad]

22 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

There is no question in my mind that systemic racism is real and everywhere, but my definition of it is not the same as yours. Neither do I think the solution being put forward going to work. It may do the opposite. We now have black-only theatre events, for example-

National Arts Centre event just for Black-identifying patrons

One white man complained, he could not attend with his black wife. Utterly absurd.

It's not at all absurd. Quite an interesting and provocative experience being created. Two experiences, actually, both informative and valuable.

It's quite like gender blind or race blind casting, or "splash" casting. It creates a unique experience. 

Or, imagine, for example, how differently Merchant of Venice plays and lands in Israel.

I think you'd be hard-pressed to argue that creating a unique experience one night of the run does meaningful harm to anyone, but it can be transformative for the people who show up--black and white.

Beyond these artistic purpose, I think there's also a practical business purpose, as theater audiences skew dramatically old, white and wealthy. An event that attracts new audiences also has a purpose. Think "ladies night" at the local watering hole.

 

Edited February 25, 2024 by Hodad

[Caswell Thomas]

8 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

All ACTUAL sources talked about those quotes, clown. There are audio and video clips of them. 

FYI they're not just alleged quotes, like for example when someone attended a meeting with Trump where he allegedly said  "shithole countries" and no one else heard it. 

No one is alleging that Biden said these things. They provide the video and audio clips. It's all real. He absolutely did say those things, and the evidence has always been out in the general sphere of knowledge. The fact that you don't know these things is either evidence of your own stupidity or the fact that your 'news sources' 😂 just give you the mushroom treatment cazzy: they keep you in the dark and feed you bullshit.

After you're done wallowing in perpetual ignorance, you come here to act like we're wrong or we're conspiracy theorists.

Buddy, if you wanna live in an echo chamber with your head up your ass, that's your right, but stop coming here and acting like you're an authority on these topics. You don't know jack spit and you're just embarrassing yourself - e v e r y   t i m e.  

My Authority is HISTORY and it, never lies. Unlike the Trump party of Deplorables and their dancing Con Man leader. 

[Caswell Thomas]

7 hours ago, Legato said:

How long have you been dating Rachel Maddow?

Ah Rachel...nice gal.  Complete opposite if Marjorie TaylorvGreenevwho, one hears, spends a lot if time at Marvel Margins pool these days.  

[Caswell Thomas]

Just now, Caswell Thomas said:

Ah Rachel...nice gal.  Complete opposite if Marjorie TaylorvGreenevwho, one hears, spends a lot if time at Marvel Margins pool these days.  

I have no idea how Kindle changed what I wrote ( see below) into the above.  One really has to wonder if indeed Amazon has employed chipmunks to replace its editors as it has midget racing car drivers of the late 1950's in substitute for its delivery drivers.     

What I originally typed was ( Ah Rachel....nice gal.  Complete opposite of Marjorie Taylor Greene, who, one hears, spends a lot if her time trying to get the ear of the money mogul still swimming in Mar el Margins pool. )

[OftenWrong]

13 hours ago, Hodad said:

It's not at all absurd.

It is divisive and causing more hurt feelings, and not the road to understanding and tolerance. Those are things we all learned in our public school system in Canada, starting in the 1970's. That's why a lot of Canadians are against the wokester and BLM movement. We believe that to move beyond racism you have to be inclusive, towards ALL people. While I agree that systemic racism exists (but only per my definition of it, systemic as 'whole body', not as 'the system'), I disagree that the concept of white exclusion, or anyone's exclusion, leads to a better more civil society down the road.

The recent change in tone about racism and gay acceptance comes primarily out of the United States, where social problems are more severe. There are still areas where racism and white supremacy are openly accepted, like in your south. I've seen it first hand when I was in Atlanta.

Our problem is a tendency to copy things we see in US media, as though they exist here at the same level. They do not. And so we're actually undoing some of the progress we've made by copying US attitudes and culture war.

A certain anti-Americanism is healthy and good for Canada.

Edited February 25, 2024 by OftenWrong

[Guest]

13 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

It is divisive and causing more hurt feelings, and not the road to understanding and tolerance.

The main issue with current politics. I actually miss the days of "worst than watching paint dry" politicians who leaned on more centrist policies. This "you're in it with us, or against us", is just not sustainable.

[WestCanMan]

On 2/24/2024 at 3:24 PM, Hodad said:

"Black-only" organizations-- or similar for any minority--are essentially support groups for people who are marginalized.

They're racist.

Nothing more, nothing less, it's a bunch of racists.

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How to deal with, function and thrive in a society that is fundamentally designed by and for white men. Someday, as the world is designed by and for a more inclusive society, those groups won't be necessary. Progress is slow.

It's a society designed for people. 

If you can't thrive here because you're stupid, guess what, it's hard for everyone that's stupid. 

Do you think that islamic societies are more inclusive, and that they're designed for people like you to thrive? Well, if you're not muslim, you can't thrive there. It's codified into law. Your women have to wear hijabs and observe luterally every bigoted law there or they are in physical danger. 

Do you think that you can go to Japan, China, Argentine, Venezuela, Niger, S Korea and just do it all your way? 

Hell no. If you go there, you have to fit into the roles that those societies have to offer you. 

Where's you ideal society where you can go that isn't "run by white people and where only white people can thrive"? 

Name a country, spazz...

You can't name a better place than here. you're just a butthurt racist.

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I'm a bit skeptical that systemic racism has been eradicated in Canada, which still has a heavy white majority, but I'm confident you're way ahead of us. You're not burdened with the long legacy of slavery and Jim Crow. 

Blah, blah, blah. 

Get off your ass, loser. 

Put in 40+ solid hrs a week and don't be such a whiny, braindead, cultist racist. 

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You can't aggressively exclude any entire demographic from good neighborhoods, schools and jobs for a couple centuries and expect the effects to vanish in a couple of generations. We too have a simmering level of individual racism, but the effects are not nearly as harmful as the systemic racism. 

You live in a prison of your own mind.

The Dems' false narratives of "G floyd/M Brown/Brionna/Travon/Rayshard, etc being murdered by a racist cop" were spun just to keep people like you in a racist, angry, unproductive state of mind so that no one wants to hire you. 

If you can look at those names and not feel like you were lied to by the Dems you're fooling yourself. 

If anything, those narratives hurt you guys from both sides, because the argument that "police unfairly target blacks" is completely erased by those false narratives. You lose all credibility when you're caught lying like that.

Reasonable people honestly look at that and say "If they were lying about that, they were probably lying about everything else too."

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There's a school of "thought" that says Black Americans will be better off if we pretend systemic challenges don't exist, and try to convince them that what they experience isn't real--essentially gaslighting Black America. But that's not really how problems are solved. Problems must be acknowledged, discussed and proactively addressed.

Oddly enough, I just addressed that right before this.

As long as you keep acting like "G floyd/M Brown/Brionna/Travon/Jussie/Rayshard" are perfect examples of how poorly blacks are treated, no one is going to take anything that you say seriously. We know those were lies. White people get killed by police all the time, we just don't have a massive pity party for white people who do the things that they did. 

G Floyd's arrest was a case study in exactly "what not to do when cops are talking to you". 

Rule 1) When a cop approaches your window and asks you to show them your hands, don't rummage around under the passenger seat.

Rule 2) Don't make them say "Show me your hands" 5 times. 

Rule 3) Don't wrestle with them.

Rule 4) Don't lie to them. 

If you watch that sh1t with your kid, tell them what G Floyd did wrong. Don't say: "What Floyd did was just fine, and that's how I expect you to act in that situation. You should go loot some stores now, son. Bring me back a carton of cigs and some beef jerky. Beat someone up up if you have to, and if they resist, burn their store down."

[WestCanMan]

On 2/24/2024 at 8:15 PM, Caswell Thomas said:

My Authority is HISTORY and it, never lies.

Ummm, history lies all the time. 

History is literally written by the winners with no regard whatsoever for the truth. 

If you have enough slaves to pile several-ton rocks 500 feet high you can tell people to write "the pyramids were built by paid workers" in their papyrus scrolls and they will. You can make several copies of those ones and burn everything that anyone else writes, or even burn the people who wrote it. People back then had power that Pelosi and Biden can only dream of. 

If you want an example of history being rewritten, look no further than what Cuomo did in NY State... He forced care homes to take covid patients to come back without testing them. He enacted that policy 5 days before the USS Comfort arrived and 13 days before the Javits center opened. The USS Mercy came there as well. Those 3 facilities were used to a small fraction of their capacity for 295 of the 300 days that Cuomo's biological warfare policy was in effect. Then Cuomo forced his staff to lie about where all the covid deaths were coming from. 

That should be one of the biggest stories of the whole sad covid saga but it's kept under wraps. CNN doesn't talk about it, MSNBC doesn't talk about it, NBC, ABC and CBS don't talk about it, NPR doesn't talk about it, WashPo and NYT don't talk about it. 

Cuomo got an Emmy for his covid bloviations and he had it stripped "because he allegedly groped some women or pecked them on the cheek".

https://apnews.com/article/new-york-andrew-cuomo-us-news-coronavirus-pandemic-nursing-homes-512cae0abb55a55f375b3192f2cdd6b5

• The new figures come as the Cuomo administration has been forced in recent weeks to acknowledge i t has been underreporting the overall number of COVID-19 deaths among long-term care residents. It is now nearly 15,000 up from the 8,500 previously disclosed.
• The Cuomo administration’s March 25 directive barred nursing homes from refusing people just because they had COVID-19. ("Just because of that? Really? Oh pshaw.")

... but Cuomo lost his covid bloviations Emmy because of a few unwanted smooches and he may have squeezed a few buttcheeks when he gave women hugs. 🤣

^^That's^^ history being erased right in front of your stupid eyes and you refuse to see it. No leftists here will even acknowledge that it really happened. They won't even sealion when you talk about it - they just ghost you. "Let that topic die, peons. Do not engage. I repeat, do not engage."

You're here pontificating about your authenticity & your vaunted sources and you're 100% full of shit. You'd lie about whether or not the sun was in the sky over your head.

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

The main issue with current politics. I actually miss the days of "worst than watching paint dry" politicians who leaned on more centrist policies. This "you're in it with us, or against us", is just not sustainable.

If there's any justice in this world then Joe Manchin (Democrat) will beat Trump and Biden like rented mules in the upcoming election. 

TBH, I have my doubts about Manchin's past, because I seem to recall seeing a video of him riding in a car with Biden and Byrd way back in the day (Biden actually did Byrd's eulogy), but the Dems need to have their noses rubbed in this and the MSM have done so much damage to the GOP with their relentless smear campaigns, I think the GOP brand is shot.  

[Black Dog]

On 2/23/2024 at 6:57 PM, Perspektiv said:

Limitless genders, are a belief.

 

Deflection. Answer the question.

[Black Dog]

On 2/24/2024 at 8:31 AM, ironstone said:

When in doubt, ask Thomas Sowell about this.

He believes it started with the welfare state.

Of course he does, he was a dope.

[Caswell Thomas]

21 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Ummm, history lies all the time. 

History is literally written by the winners with no regard whatsoever for the truth. 

If you have enough slaves to pile several-ton rocks 500 feet high you can tell people to write "the pyramids were built by paid workers" in their papyrus scrolls and they will. You can make several copies of those ones and burn everything that anyone else writes, or even burn the people who wrote it. People back then had power that Pelosi and Biden can only dream of. 

If you want an example of history being rewritten, look no further than what Cuomo did in NY State... He forced care homes to take covid patients to come back without testing them. He enacted that policy 5 days before the USS Comfort arrived and 13 days before the Javits center opened. The USS Mercy came there as well. Those 3 facilities were used to a small fraction of their capacity for 295 of the 300 days that Cuomo's biological warfare policy was in effect. Then Cuomo forced his staff to lie about where all the covid deaths were coming from. 

That should be one of the biggest stories of the whole sad covid saga but it's kept under wraps. CNN doesn't talk about it, MSNBC doesn't talk about it, NBC, ABC and CBS don't talk about it, NPR doesn't talk about it, WashPo and NYT don't talk about it. 

Cuomo got an Emmy for his covid bloviations and he had it stripped "because he allegedly groped some women or pecked them on the cheek".

https://apnews.com/article/new-york-andrew-cuomo-us-news-coronavirus-pandemic-nursing-homes-512cae0abb55a55f375b3192f2cdd6b5

• The new figures come as the Cuomo administration has been forced in recent weeks to acknowledge i t has been underreporting the overall number of COVID-19 deaths among long-term care residents. It is now nearly 15,000 up from the 8,500 previously disclosed.
• The Cuomo administration’s March 25 directive barred nursing homes from refusing people just because they had COVID-19. ("Just because of that? Really? Oh pshaw.")

... but Cuomo lost his covid bloviations Emmy because of a few unwanted smooches and he may have squeezed a few buttcheeks when he gave women hugs. 🤣

^^That's^^ history being erased right in front of your stupid eyes and you refuse to see it. No leftists here will even acknowledge that it really happened. They won't even sealion when you talk about it - they just ghost you. "Let that topic die, peons. Do not engage. I repeat, do not engage."

You're here pontificating about your authenticity & your vaunted sources and you're 100% full of shit. You'd lie about whether or not the sun was in the sky over your head.

I rather suspect you are correct in what you say Cuomo did, there was a lot of panic in the Covid year. I had it that year too. My local VA however refused to admit anyone ...left us on our own, couldn't even get my meds refilled that were critical.  5 months if excuses and they finally reopened ....I heard from nurse practitioners all over the country begging for basic supplies to keep themselves safe as one by one, their staffs dropped like flies or melted away, too fearful to come to work.  A lot of med centers and state assemblies were virtual ghost towns....others thought the Zombie Apocalypse had come and began robbing and looting at gunpoint.  The Long C is what took half my strength away forever, as well as half my breathing ability.  Mg anger grows daily that any Country would even consider using a manufactured strain of an incurable virus as a weapon...monstrous.  

As to your other commentary...Perhaps, perhaps not.  I am not sure we ever will know.  Not in our lifetimes anyway.