As Kids, They Thought They Were Trans. They No Longer Do. (or why it's ok for parents to question)

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

Boggles my mind, some school boards are feeling almost entitlement to holding such secrets from parents, and wonder why so many furious parents are demanding schools to leave their kids alone.

This isn't new for the left.  Remember when the libs said that if the parents were allowed to raise kids without their help the kids would all grow up to be criminals? Or how about if we give parents money they'll just spend it on beer and popcorn?

The liberals specifically and the left in general have ALWAYS believed that the last people fit to raise kids are parents.

And now we're seeing  a backlash and parents coming forward and saying "enough - we have rights and we're fighting back".

 

[Guest]

7 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And now we're seeing  a backlash and parents coming forward and saying "enough - we have rights and we're fighting back".

 

With a liberal government leader dismissing their concerns, as them being influenced by alt-right US views, dialogue is impossible. 

From what I can see, they can hear what their kids say when home, and to some parents, this is concerning.

I have heard immigrant parents state that they (in a couple cases) had sons who were told to bring women accessories to school, because they were going to have the boys wear this, in some gender swap role play type game. 

Look, if you want to experiment with drag, knock yourself out. Change genders? Knock yourself out.

The issue, is you bringing this onto kids who are being confused because they don't understand the age inappropriate content that is being pushed onto some of them.

I have seen kids books depicting masturbation and fantasies of sexually explicit nature. Trans activists display their genitals to kids, at times covering their eyes, in the name of "art".

Again. Want to show this to your kids--knock yourself out. Free speech. Let your kids watch gay porn for all I care. 

Keep that s*** away from my kids, is what these parents are saying, and rightfully so.

[Guest]

I was walking yesterday to do some groceries, and saw a trans woman who put a lot of effort in her lower body, walk towards me.

IE shaved legs, miniskirt, high heels, and the confident walk to match.

Am a leg man, so I checked her legs out, then worked my way up, going from oh wow, to what the....to oh, okay, so were doing this.

Bottom down, was J-Lo, mid section up, was WWE's Razor Ramone:

Like, the entitlement. Like, forget shaving my face, or hiding my chest hair. I'm a woman because I feel like it. Anyone looking at me funny, will be outed on social media! 

Again, do you. Free world.

Everyone stopped and stared, and a father walking next to me couldn't keep it together, and started bursting out laughing.

Looks back at me twice, and am not trying to be disrespectful, and could see the awkward moment of everyone around trying to be respectful, but the collective, "bro....what the f***".

Hate to say it, but that's reality. People telling me you can pick your gender just like that, will be refuted real quick by reality. 

You can't gaslight your way of this not being a mental health issue.

It doesn't take bravery to walk out your house looking like this. It takes mental health issues.

The political issue this causes, just creates elephants in the room, few will want to touch, but human nature is prevalent in them.

Again, keep kids out of this, and as an adult do you.

[Black Dog]

11 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

It has no business remaining the teachers secret.

This should be escalated. The teacher is out of their capabilities in dealing with this, nor giving advice to the kid.

Because I'm sure a parent who won't approve of their child's gender identity is going to react well to having the cops/CPS show up on their doorstep.

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If a child of mine committed suicide because I was oblivious to what they were dealing with because they were petrified of telling me because how proud of them I am for being my son/daughter (but unaware they felt of the opposite gender). 

I would sue the living daylights out of that school. The teacher, would call all international media corporations and would bury all those responsible for this in the mud.

 

You'd sue the school because your kid was afraid of you? Good luck!

 

Edited February 12, 2024 by Black Dog

[Black Dog]

16 hours ago, CdnFox said:

No, you literally lied and are trying to deflect.  Which seems to be one of your 2 or 3 debate techiques. God forbid you go with honesty.

Sorry kid - the second two are distortions of what i said   the first one is a simple fact but hey - prove me wrong

Again:

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Here's a few things you've invented in this thread:

• the claim that nearly zero trans kids get abused by their parents when they come out
• that I said conservative homes weren't supportive
• that "it's the lefties who are making the claim that no right wing home is supportive." 

You literally said all those things, so the "buhhh distortions" argument doesn't fly. And you still can't provide cites for any of them, I'm not even gonna bother batting you around anymore.

 

[Michael Hardner]

3 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

  I'm not even gonna bother batting you around anymore.

There's an IGNORE feature here for filtering out posters you feel aren't worth replying to.

Not saying that the Fox is that, of course...

[Black Dog]

11 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Its like a teacher I had who felt I was being beaten as a child. 

Its none of their business. Escalate it to people who know what to do. Stick to teaching and leave the counseling to the professionals.

Child care services, to child care service people.

This is a completely contradictory statement. If you think teachers should stick to teaching it's none of their business if a kid is coming to school with cigarette burns on their arms and black eyes. But no, turns out the line where you think teachers should get involved is arbitrarily drawn exactly where you want it. Convenient! 

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

You'd sue the school because your kid was afraid of you?

Afraid to tell me. I made that quite clear. Vastly different than being afraid of their parent, fearing violence or being disowned.

I know of cases where kids were afraid of telling their parents. 

Its not the teachers job. A child may assume since I am so proud of them being my son I always wanted, that I would reject them for coming out as a trans female.

So many kids face immense anxiety for just that, fearing rejection.

My love for the child wouldn't change, if anything I would want them to be as emotionally strong as possible, as would know the rough ride they would get socially.

The teacher is out of their element here. 

There is no business for them to make such a judgment call on behalf of the parent, which can have permanent life altering consequences.

You're essentially asking of a Wal-Mart greeter to take advanced first aid training and firearm training because of wanting to cut costs on emergency expenses and security.

It has no business even being a thought. 

Divisive is removing parents from the conversation. Uniting, is hearing what their concerns are.

Since its their offspring, they should have a say, in my opinion.

17 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Because I'm sure a parent who won't approve of their child's gender identity is going to react well to having the cops/CPS show up on their doorstep.

Correct. Thats what the parents are for. This is such a grey area, as leaves the door open for teachers to keep secrets like this, under the alleged guise of protecting the child.

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

There's an IGNORE feature here for filtering out posters you feel aren't worth replying to.

Most people will avoid this, unless the poster is being underhanded on purpose, almost to being gray area trolling.

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

If you think teachers should stick to teaching it's none of their business if a kid is coming to school with cigarette burns on their arms and black eyes.

This isn't the teachers job to assist with. There are specialists who do this for a reason. 

The teacher is out of their element.

Teachers aren't social service workers, and if they are part time, then score for the school getting the 2 for 1 staff.

15 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

But no, turns out the line where you think teachers should get involved is arbitrarily drawn exactly where you want it. 

Nope, I don't want teachers going above my parental authority.

If they fear abuse or foul play, it should be escalated to the necessary people.

It is none of the teachers business, in my opinion.

[Black Dog]

3 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Afraid to tell me. I made that quite clear. Vastly different than being afraid of their parent, fearing violence or being disowned.

I know of cases where kids were afraid of telling their parents. 

And maybe they have a good reason, has that occurred to you?

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Its not the teachers job. A child may assume since I am so proud of them being my son I always wanted, that I would reject them for coming out as a trans female.

So many kids face immense anxiety for just that, fearing rejection.

My love for the child wouldn't change, if anything I would want them to be as emotionally strong as possible, as would know the rough ride they would get socially.

The teacher is out of their element here. 

Maybe you should have a better relationship with your kid so they don't want to keep secrets from you. And if you think teachers should stay in their lane, requiring them to insert themselves into intrafamily dynamics by telling parents information their kids would prefer be kept from them is a weird way to show it.

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There is no business for them to make such a judgment call on behalf of the parent, which can have permanent life altering consequences.

You know what else can have permanent, life-altering consequences? Snitching to a non-supportive parent.

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You're essentially asking of a Wal-Mart greeter to take advanced first aid training and firearm training because of wanting to cut costs on emergency expenses and security.

It has no business even being a thought. 

Divisive is removing parents from the conversation. Uniting, is hearing what their concerns are.

Since its their offspring, they should have a say, in my opinion.

It's so weird how you guys constantly centre parents in a discussion about child welfare. It seems like you care more about exerting control than what's best for kids.

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Correct. Thats what the parents are for.

Or that just guarantees the worst possible outcome for the kid.

 

 

 

[Black Dog]

1 minute ago, Perspektiv said:

This isn't the teachers job to assist with. There are specialists who do this for a reason. 

The teacher is out of their element.

Teachers aren't social service workers, and if they are part time, then score for the school getting the 2 for 1 staff.

Nope, I don't want teachers going above my parental authority.

If they fear abuse or foul play, it should be escalated to the necessary people.

It is none of the teachers business, in my opinion.

I'm confused: do you want teachers involved or not? Because calling the cops/CPS is getting involved.

[Michael Hardner]

31 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Most people will avoid this, unless the poster is being underhanded on purpose, almost to being gray area trolling.

Yes.  I thought BD was saying exactly that... 

17 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

I'm confused: do you want teachers involved or not? Because calling the cops/CPS is getting involved.

I was also confused because I thought that's exactly what the teacher does in this scenario.

[Guest]

38 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

And maybe they have a good reason, has that occurred to you?

Not for the teacher to decide, in my opinion. A teachers job is to make educational decision on a child's life. Not parental ones.

38 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Maybe you should have a better relationship with your kid so they don't want to keep secrets from you.

Have you ever come out?

I know people who had great relationships with their kids, yet the kid was still petrified to come out. The fear of rejection is immense.

I think you're showcasing how out of your element that you are. Precisely why teachers shouldn't be fitted with the responsibility of something of this magnitude. 

38 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Snitching to a non-supportive parent.

It isn't a responsibility that belongs on a teachers shoulders, in my opinion.

38 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

It seems like you care more about exerting control than what's best for kids.

Its not for a teacher to decide what is best for my child.

Has nothing to do with control. It's about lawful boundaries that should be respected. 

Also, if a child lives in my house, shouldn't I be responsible for them? I provide food, clothing and shelter but now am somehow a passenger to this situation?

The teachers responsibility over my child is limited to their education.

38 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Or that just guarantees the worst possible outcome for the kid.

Again, foul play being suspected should be addressed. 

37 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

I'm confused: do you want teachers involved or not?

Foul play is suspected, should have teachers forward this to qualified people. Teachers have no business dealing with these situations. 

Involvement becomes a problem, when a teacher chooses to do so and keep it a secret between them and the child. This is inappropriate.

[Guest]

You're playing on words, but the point being that unless abuse is suspected, the teacher should butt out on raising the kids they were hired to teach.

[Black Dog]

33 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Not for the teacher to decide, in my opinion. A teachers job is to make educational decision on a child's life. Not parental ones.

It's not the teacher's decision here, it's the student's.

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Have you ever come out?

I know people who had great relationships with their kids, yet the kid was still petrified to come out. The fear of rejection is immense.

All the more reason to leave the decision to come out to the kid and not a third party or the government.

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I think you're showcasing how out of your element that you are. Precisely why teachers shouldn't be fitted with the responsibility of something of this magnitude. 

It isn't a responsibility that belongs on a teachers shoulders, in my opinion.

 

But outing kids against their wishes is, apparently.

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Its not for a teacher to decide what is best for my child.

Has nothing to do with control. It's about lawful boundaries that should be respected. 

Also, if a child lives in my house, shouldn't I be responsible for them? I provide food, clothing and shelter but now am somehow a passenger to this situation?

The teachers responsibility over my child is limited to their education.

 

See, again, it's all about you. What the kid wants doesn't even cross your mind.

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Again, foul play being suspected should be addressed. 

Foul play is suspected, should have teachers forward this to qualified people. Teachers have no business dealing with these situations. 

Involvement becomes a problem, when a teacher chooses to do so and keep it a secret between them and the child. This is inappropriate.

 

I'm sorry but if you think a teacher keeping a student's confidence is them "getting involved", but a teacher outing a kid to parents and creating god knows what kind of drama is not, you've got it ass-backwards.

30 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

You're playing on words, but the point being that unless abuse is suspected, the teacher should butt out on raising the kids they were hired to teach.

And i think that principle logically extends to outing kids to their parents.

Edited February 12, 2024 by Black Dog

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

With a liberal government leader dismissing their concerns, as them being influenced by alt-right US views, dialogue is impossible. 

From what I can see, they can hear what their kids say when home, and to some parents, this is concerning.

I have heard immigrant parents state that they (in a couple cases) had sons who were told to bring women accessories to school, because they were going to have the boys wear this, in some gender swap role play type game. 

Look, if you want to experiment with drag, knock yourself out. Change genders? Knock yourself out.

The issue, is you bringing this onto kids who are being confused because they don't understand the age inappropriate content that is being pushed onto some of them.

I have seen kids books depicting masturbation and fantasies of sexually explicit nature. Trans activists display their genitals to kids, at times covering their eyes, in the name of "art".

Again. Want to show this to your kids--knock yourself out. Free speech. Let your kids watch gay porn for all I care. 

Keep that s*** away from my kids, is what these parents are saying, and rightfully so.

Well - and you hit the problem on the head right off the bat.  The job of a leader is to bring people together and discuss the issues and see if you can find ways to make it work for everyone. Or at least make everyone equally unhappy    LOL.  

Instead our leader is deliberately breeding division and calling one side nazi's essentially and terrible evil no good very bad people -  there is NO room for discussion after that.

The liberals have taught people on the left that they don't have to listen to the other side. They can just ignore the 'racist bigot misogyinist wastes of space".

So those people now are just electing gov'ts to do what they want and aren't trying to be reasonable any more.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Black Dog said:

Again:

You literally said all those things, so the "buhhh distortions" argument doesn't fly. And you still can't provide cites for any of them, I'm not even gonna bother batting you around anymore.

 

Sorry kiddo, as i previously demonstrated in my last response you're not being honest.

ANd where's that original quote i asked for? Oh i still didn't say it? wow - it's almost like you lie

At the end of the day parents have a right to know, if you're in genuine fear of a kid's safety call the authorities, and you're an illiterate 1diot who doesn't know that 'imminent' means it hasn't happened yet.  And repeating lies doesn't make them true.

LOL - you may be an !diot but at least you're consistent  

[Black Dog]

35 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Sorry kiddo, as i previously demonstrated in my last response you're not being honest.

ANd where's that original quote i asked for? Oh i still didn't say it? wow - it's almost like you lie

At the end of the day parents have a right to know, if you're in genuine fear of a kid's safety call the authorities, and you're an illiterate 1diot who doesn't know that 'imminent' means it hasn't happened yet.  And repeating lies doesn't make them true.

LOL - you may be an !diot but at least you're consistent  

 LOL I already explained this to you, dummy. imminent means "about to happen" or "happening soon". It does not mean "possibly at some distant and unknown point in the future, maybe."

And look, still no cites for any of your other specific claims. It's almost as if you're a lying piece of shit!

 

[CdnFox]

5 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

 LOL I already explained this to you, dummy. imminent means "about to happen" or "happening soon". It does not mean "possibly at some distant and unknown point in the future, maybe."

And look, still no cites for any of your other specific claims. It's almost as if you're a lying piece of shit!

 

Ummm no - i was the one who had to explain that to you.  You claimed the police NEVER - EVER POSSIBLY - NO WAY would go UNTIL something happened. 

I said they do all the time.  If they find out there's a kid at genuine risk they'll go and they have specific teams for it

NOOOOOOO you cried - it says "IMMINENT - THAT MEANS THEY WON"T GO TILL IT HAPPENS".

I had to calm you down and point out that imminent means it hasn't happened yet

But i love that you're trying the 'rabbit season duck season' defense where you try to pretend it was what you were saying all along hoping i'd forget  

Aside from a handful of lefties who just hate the fact you're wrong, everyone else here is now laughing at you   ROFLMAO!  

 

Hey - where's that original quote i asked for? Still don't have it? wow - imagine that, it's almost like you lied about me saying it  

Edited February 12, 2024 by CdnFox

[Black Dog]

8 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Ummm no - i was the one who had to explain that to you.  You claimed the police NEVER - EVER POSSIBLY - NO WAY would go UNTIL something happened. 

I said they do all the time.  If they find out there's a kid at genuine risk they'll go and they have specific teams for it

NOOOOOOO you cried - it says "IMMINENT - THAT MEANS THEY WON"T GO TILL IT HAPPENS".

I had to calm you down and point out that imminent means it hasn't happened yet

But i love that you're trying the 'rabbit season duck season' defense where you try to pretend it was what you were saying all along hoping i'd forget  

Aside from a handful of lefties who just hate the fact you're wrong, everyone else here is now laughing at you   ROFLMAO!  

Look at you: lying again.

Here's what I said FTR:

"It says "incidents involving imminent risk to children caused by neglect and/or physical or sexual abuse." I can guarantee this does not mean "a kid told us they are afraid they might be abused at some unknown time in the future" you doorknob."

And again this is in the specific context of a kid telling a teacher they fear they'll get abused if their parents find out they're trans/questioning.

Here's how that would go:

"Hello, police? Yes i'd like to report an incident of child abuse. No it hasn't happened yet, but i have student who says they're trans and is sacred they'll be abused if their parents find out. No, the parents don' know yet and the student isn't planning on telling them. No, I'm not telling them either but I was hoping you cold go investigate and tell them to not hit their secret trans kid. Hello? hello?"

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Hey - where's that original quote i asked for? Still don't have it? wow - imagine that, it's almost like you lied about me saying it

What's the big deal, you do that all the time. You literally did that in this post!

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Black Dog said:

It's not the teacher's decision here, it's the student's

Who's the adult? If your child that is underage tells you they're going to another city, you just let them without follow up questions?

Its the child's decision to open up, its not the teachers job to make gender based decisions for that child. Without parental consent, no less.

"I was told you wouldn't be supportive" isn't sufficient grounds to overstep your boundaries.

2 hours ago, Black Dog said:

All the more reason to leave the decision to come out to the kid

Let's make it clear. Coming out to a teacher is fine. Having a kid start their transitioning (opposite sex clothing, name changes etc) without including the parents in my opinion, is not.

2 hours ago, Black Dog said:

But outing kids against their wishes is, apparently

Neither responsibility is appropriate, nor should be expected out of the teacher. Its like Trump citing giving teachers guns could help with school shootings. 

Have you seen teacher pay? That is nowhere near the realm of reasonable responsibility, nor is it their job or appropriate for them to take it on.

I would see it as equally inappropriate as wanting to hang out with students outside of school hours, and not on a field trip.

2 hours ago, Black Dog said:

See, again, it's all about you. What the kid wants doesn't even cross your mind.

Am the parent. Being a parent isn't about giving kids what they want. 

Being responsible for their lives and safety means sometimes making decisions you know is in their best interests. Thats not a say a teacher should have.

Unless the parent is blatantly abusing the child, butt out and leave the parenting to them.

I don't tell my friends how to raise their kids. I won't even tell my wife how to raise her daughter. Am responsible for both, and know my lane. Teachers should too.

2 hours ago, Black Dog said:

keeping a student's confidence

The line being crossed is starting to allow a child to start changing their name in class, wearing female outfits in class, if they were born male, without mentioning any of this to the parents.

Its not appropriate. 

2 hours ago, Black Dog said:

that principle logically extends to outing kids to their parents.

Encouraging teachers to lie to parents when concerned parents ask about how school is going, is unprofessional in my opinion. 

I had to drop off a toddler to their abusive mom during a custody dispute, and saw something I didn't like and reported it. 

Its not my job to keep secrets from their parents nor is it my job to raise their child for them. I can provide that child safety while they are with me, but it literally is not my job to parent them.

Teachers are no different.

Social workers encounter horrible parents all the time, but again, they must respect certain boundaries, too.

[Black Dog]

41 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Who's the adult? If your child that is underage tells you they're going to another city, you just let them without follow up questions?

How is that an analogous situation?

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Its the child's decision to open up, its not the teachers job to make gender based decisions for that child. Without parental consent, no less.

Again the teacher isn't making any "gender based decisions" by respecting their wish to not tell the parents.

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Let's make it clear. Coming out to a teacher is fine. Having a kid start their transitioning (opposite sex clothing, name changes etc) without including the parents in my opinion, is not.

A distinction without a difference IMO. 

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Neither responsibility is appropriate, nor should be expected out of the teacher. Its like Trump citing giving teachers guns could help with school shootings. 

Have you seen teacher pay? That is nowhere near the realm of reasonable responsibility, nor is it their job or appropriate for them to take it on.

I would see it as equally inappropriate as wanting to hang out with students outside of school hours, and not on a field trip.

So if a student is troubled because they are scared to come out to their parents and tries to confide in a trusted adult teacher, you want that teacher to what, tell them to f*ck off? I'm sure that'll do wonders for the kid's mental health!

Fact is these conversations are likely to happen whether you like it or not and the potential negative consequences of outing students to their parents against their wishes are much greater imo than respecting them.

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Am the parent. Being a parent isn't about giving kids what they want. 

Being responsible for their lives and safety means sometimes making decisions you know is in their best interests. Thats not a say a teacher should have.

Unless the parent is blatantly abusing the child, butt out and leave the parenting to them.

I don't tell my friends how to raise their kids. I won't even tell my wife how to raise her daughter. Am responsible for both, and know my lane. Teachers should too.

Except when you and your kids to the public school system you are quite literally entrusting their lives and safety to teachers with the expectation that they'll be looked after. Protecting kids is a shared responsibility IMO.

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The line being crossed is starting to allow a child to start changing their name in class, wearing female outfits in class, if they were born male, without mentioning any of this to the parents.

Its not appropriate. 

 

Outing a child to potentially unsupportive parents is deeply unethical.

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Encouraging teachers to lie to parents when concerned parents ask about how school is going, is unprofessional in my opinion. 

Who said they had to lie? Why would it need to be mentioned at all in this context? "They're doing fine, their grades are good." boom, conversation over.

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I had to drop off a toddler to their abusive mom during a custody dispute, and saw something I didn't like and reported it. 

Its not my job to keep secrets from their parents nor is it my job to raise their child for them. I can provide that child safety while they are with me, but it literally is not my job to parent them.

Social workers encounter horrible parents all the time, but again, they must respect certain boundaries, too.

 

So you understand that kids sometimes need protection from their parents, yet you support a policy that could put kids at risk, a fact you refuse to even acknowledge.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

Look at you: lying again.

Here's what I said FTR:

"It says "incidents involving imminent risk to children caused by neglect and/or physical or sexual abuse." I can guarantee this does not mean "a kid told us they are afraid they might be abused at some unknown time in the future" you doorknob."

And again this is in the specific context of a kid telling a teacher they fear they'll get abused if their parents find out they're trans/questioning.

Here's how that would go:

"Hello, police? Yes i'd like to report an incident of child abuse. No it hasn't happened yet, but i have student who says they're trans and is sacred they'll be abused if their parents find out. No, the parents don' know yet and the student isn't planning on telling them. No, I'm not telling them either but I was hoping you cold go investigate and tell them to not hit their secret trans kid. Hello? hello?"

What's the big deal, you do that all the time. You literally did that in this post!

LOL - you're the one doing the lying kiddo.   

I said if there is a GENUINE concern for the kids safety let the authorities know.

You said:

"Yeah I'm sure the cops or CPS would be very responsive in a case where the abuse hasn't happened yet., "

I said It literally happens every day.  

You said:

You've literally no evidence to support any of this.

I then provided proof that they do. And they do -  if a child is at risk they will investigate. Even before something has happened.

NOW - after i finally pointed out to you that "imminent" means it hasn't happened yet you SUDDENLY turn around and pretend it was YOU who discovered that   ROFLMAO!!!1

 

What a pathetic showing that was - you were wrong, and now you're lying about being wrong and there's the proof.

If there's a genuine concern about safety let the authorities know. You put kids at risk by NOT telling the parents. And you're a lying douche - but that last part we already knew

[Black Dog]

18 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

LOL - you're the one doing the lying kiddo.   

I said if there is a GENUINE concern for the kids safety let the authorities know.

You said:

"Yeah I'm sure the cops or CPS would be very responsive in a case where the abuse hasn't happened yet., "

I said It literally happens every day.  

You said:

You've literally no evidence to support any of this.

I then provided proof that they do. And they do -  if a child is at risk they will investigate. Even before something has happened.

NOW - after i finally pointed out to you that "imminent" means it hasn't happened yet you SUDDENLY turn around and pretend it was YOU who discovered that   ROFLMAO!!!1

I legit don't know what to say someone who is too stupid to parse the difference between "Incidents involving imminent risk to children caused by neglect and/or physical or sexual abuse" and the fear that some form of abuse may take place at some possible point in the future. 

It's incredible, but honestly not that surprising given the sheer volume of dumb shit you pump out like when you claimed the number of trans kids who face abuse or mistreatment by their parents when they come out is "next to zero" and "it's the lefties who are making the claim that no right wing home is supportive." Post more emojis about it you boomer loser.

Edited February 12, 2024 by Black Dog