Deluge Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 On 1/20/2024 at 11:15 AM, reason10 said: 1. An economy rescued from the unelected Pedophile. Inflation slowed, if not completely stopped. 2. Gasoline prices dropping. 3. A secure southern border, (keeping drug dealers and terrorists in Mexico) 4. Peace in the Middle East once again. Trump gave us those miracles. He'll do it again. If you don't want that, just get the fck out of this country. We don't need America haters here. Those 4 items would make up a successful second term for the true President of the US. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 37 minutes ago, Rebound said: Nonsense. People purchase energy. You flip a switch, electrons flow, and how they were generated doesn’t matter very much. Did it come from a dam or coal? I have no idea. The electrons won’t say. Well they DO say. When it's wind and solar, the electrons often say "not today, thanks". And that's the problem It's not just power than people buy, they are also buying reliability. They want the electrons to flow EVERY SINGLE TIME you flick that switch. They do NOT want to be huddled in the cold and dark saying "well at least i'm saving the planet i guess" SO yeah they do care. Right now solar and wind are simply not reliable sources of power. That may change if we ever develop really effective energy storage (our current batteries are no where close). As alberta just discovered and California already knows you just can't count on it to be there when you need it. So you have to have enough reliable "on demand" energy available to provide for all your needs even when it's dark and the air is still. And that means oil and gas for the most part. Maybe someday nukes can fill that gap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: Well they DO say. When it's wind and solar, the electrons often say "not today, thanks". And that's the problem It's not just power than people buy, they are also buying reliability. They want the electrons to flow EVERY SINGLE TIME you flick that switch. They do NOT want to be huddled in the cold and dark saying "well at least i'm saving the planet i guess" SO yeah they do care. Right now solar and wind are simply not reliable sources of power. That may change if we ever develop really effective energy storage (our current batteries are no where close). As alberta just discovered and California already knows you just can't count on it to be there when you need it. So you have to have enough reliable "on demand" energy available to provide for all your needs even when it's dark and the air is still. And that means oil and gas for the most part. Maybe someday nukes can fill that gap. What you are saying is false. You can see that wind and solar are supplying increasingly higher and higher amounts of power, because they are the cheapest sources of power. Combined with natural gas turbines on a grid, you get both reliability and very granular, dynamic output control. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Rebound said: What you are saying is false. Sigh. No it isn't. And that's easily verifiable. Look - you can take different opinions on things or maybe come at it another way - but if you haven't figured out by this point that if i say something is fact it PROOOOOBBABLY is and you should triple check before you reply then you really do deserve all the times i make fun of you Quote You can see that wind and solar are supplying increasingly higher and higher amounts of power, because they are the cheapest sources of power. Combined with natural gas turbines on a grid, you get both reliability and very granular, dynamic output control. Not exactly. They produce "MOAR" power - but not more consistently. So lets say on the hottest day of the year you need 100 mw of power and on the coldest you need 120. Now lets say you build some wind and solar and on a windy sunny day they produce 120. well great!!! That's fantasitc ... but that day probably isn't the same day as your hottest or your coldest. And it's probably not ALL day either, as soon as night rolls around you're in trouble. And that's precisely what happened to alberta and california. No problem with solar during the day or in the summer but as soon as night hits or winter is a little darker than expected you've got a serious problem if it's very hot or cold. So what you have to do is have enough power generation capacity in 'reliables' to produce 120 MW of power, so if the 'renewables' aren't available you can still provide life saving cooling and heating. You may not USE that capacity all the time, you can turn the gas down so to speak while the renewables are available to save money and reduce emissions, but you have to be able to turn them back on when you need it. So renewables aren't as cheap as it would first seem, because you have to pay for them AND the 'gas' infrastructure and 'double up'. Over time the lower cost of electricity generation with the renewables makes it worth it to do that but you can't replace your grid with renewables or as alberta just found out you could wind up freezing in the dark. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reason10 Posted January 28 Author Report Share Posted January 28 On 1/22/2024 at 2:58 PM, Rebound said: What you are saying is false. You can see that wind and solar are supplying increasingly higher and higher amounts of power, because they are the cheapest sources of power. Combined with natural gas turbines on a grid, you get both reliability and very granular, dynamic output control. That is a stupid lie. Wind and solar are unreliable and take up too much land. And the ONLY reason you're able to sit on your communist ass and type those lies is from electricity provided by FOSSIL FUELS. When you are ready to go OFF the grid and produce your OWN power through wind and solar (and today, solar can barely heat a swimming pool in Florida during the winter) STFU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 More positives: A return to reality for borders, immigration and the sanctity of citizenship. Immigrants that break laws get a one way ticket to prison or to the old country. Once again employing economic principles that lead to a healthy climate for business and the pursuit of happiness. Cheap gas until the hydrogen car, or some other non electric(which will crash the grid with enough EVs needing to charge) alternative is ready. A healthy independence from the WEF, WHO, NATO and the G-whatever. The release of the Epstein list of customers. The prosecution of them all. Including members of SCOTUS, various elites across the globe. And no, Trump was not a customer. One day elections. Voting in person, with proof of citizenship and counting votes within 24 hrs except in rare extreme cases. It will be okay to love your country again. My wish list: A new dollar(non CBDC) new political party and a reset on the medical industry. The for profit model leads to selling drugs and vaccines instead of cures. Abolishment of sanctuary cities and sex change operations which are ruining women’s sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 On 1/21/2024 at 10:10 PM, Deluge said: DePape is a pissed off American who went nuts. It happens sometimes. YOUR problem is that you're all f*cking nuts. That is the difference. Wrong again. Canadian David DePape convicted of attempted ... CBC https://www.cbc.ca › news › world › david-depape-co... Nov 16, 2023 — DePape, a Canadian citizen who moved to the U.S. more than 20 years ago, also is charged in state court with assault with a deadly weapon, elder ... You're MAGA CULT nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 On 1/22/2024 at 10:18 AM, Deluge said: Who needs EV mandates when all that's left is EV? Thanks a lot, woketards, you steaming piles of Left. ^Divorced from REALITY DELUGINAL. Plenty of Hybrids, Plugin Hybrids AND ICE still available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 7 hours ago, robosmith said: Wrong again. Canadian David DePape convicted of attempted ... CBC https://www.cbc.ca › news › world › david-depape-co... Nov 16, 2023 — DePape, a Canadian citizen who moved to the U.S. more than 20 years ago, also is charged in state court with assault with a deadly weapon, elder ... You're MAGA CULT nuts. Only in your wet dreams. Try this link below; it can perhaps help you unlock the disorders in your life. It may even help you with your Trump Derangement Syndrome, but it's difficult to say at this juncture. ;( https://www.jstor.org/stable/40364959 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 7 hours ago, robosmith said: ^Divorced from REALITY DELUGINAL. Plenty of Hybrids, Plugin Hybrids AND ICE still available. The delusion started with your divorce with what already works. You dystopian sh*theads are as disingenuous as it gets. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godzilla Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act "under the Act individuals and pass-through entities like partnerships and S corporations would receive about $1.125 trillion in net benefits (i.e. net tax cuts offset by reduced healthcare subsidies) over 10 years, while corporations would receive around $320 billion in benefits. The CBO estimated that implementing the Act would add an estimated $2.289 trillion to the national debt over ten years" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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