Leftists Just Getting More and More Revolting

[WestCanMan]

3 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

When we call someone out.. we are expecting them to comprehend this and change their ways. You can lie to yourself and that's fine but that is human nature. They do not comprehend nor do they change your ways. And no matter how many times you say what you are going to say.. their response is exactly the same. This is the definition of insanity... doing somewhere repeatedly and expecting a different result. 

I don't actually care what you think, or what godzilla thinks, and I especially don't care what eyeball thinks, but when I tell the truth and some bumpkin comes back with "But Fauci said" I set the record straight. 

The point is that people who look at this page don't have to stfu and obey propaganda. They can read for themselves. They can be exposed to the truth.

You can dance round the stats and have a side conversation all you want, the fact is that you can't challenge a single thing I said. 

1. Deaths went up by 30% after 85% of the population was vaxed
2. When deaths were up by 30% in 2022, the MSM spent 95% less time talking about covid deaths.
3. Fauci was absolutely guilty of a massive conflict of interest by pretending that the wetmarket was the only sorce of covid worth looking into, because his own GoF covi virus was just a block away in a lab that was known for its safety issues
4. Covid deaths were spiking while the unvaxed were still in lockdown
5. almost 90% of covid deaths were among the multi-vaxed in the final months before Health Canada stopped releasing "covid deaths by vax status" numbers. 

Instead of just arguing, why don't you try to refute any of that, io. Be the man. Shut me up. Either one of you. Or even just try. 

You gotta admit, the things that I'm saying completely fly in the face of the successful vax narrative. And isn't it just a little weird that in the year when the most people died, the MSM said almost nothing about it? 

It wasn't just a few more. It was 24% more than 2020, and 30% more than 2022. That's a lot. Yet no "daily death toll update". Hmmmm. 

[impartialobserver]

6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I don't actually care what you think, or what godzilla thinks, and I especially don't care what eyeball thinks, but when I tell the truth and some bumpkin comes back with "But Fauci said" I set the record straight. 

You do care... How do I know? you respond. If you did not care, you would not respond. 

Second.. set the record straight to deaf ears. You like talking to yourself a lot. 

Third.. your dementia is getting worse. I have stated on dozens of occasions that i do not care in the least about Covid and yet no matter the discussion.. you bring it up. That speaks to your obsession and therefore lack of objectivity. 

Edited January 17, 2024 by impartialobserver

[WestCanMan]

39 minutes ago, godzilla said:

again, are you claiming a massive conspiracy? as i described that would be necessary to pull this grand scam off?

but yeah, i don't get your point exactly about the graphs. please explain. what the graphs don't show is the ration of vaxed people and their deaths to unvaxed and their deaths... and thus since some very high percentage of people in Canada are vaxed... the number of deaths as a ratio is very small compared to unvaxed. is that what you are getting at?

Again, stfu and do the math. 

You claim to be a math guy, but all you do is babble like a parrot. 

If you understand math, and stats, then you'll instantly realize that by comparing those two graphs, you can see exactly how many unvaxed people died in that time frame. You can see exactly how many 2x-vaxed people died in that time frame. You can see exactly how many 3x-vaxed people died in that time frame. You can see exactly how many 4x-vaxed people died in that time frame. 

Once you calculate that, you''l know exactly what % of the people who were dying in that month "when covid deaths were so painfully high" were multi-vaxed. It will surprise you. It's over 85%.

Were they saying "OH MY GOD, SO MANY VAXED PEOPLE ARE DYING THAT IT'S SCARY!!!" or did they leave that out, and just make people assume that it was almost all unvaxed deaths? You know what they said. Then they said "OMG, THE PROBLEM IS THAT NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE ARE VAXED. WE NEED TO FIGHT THE ANTI-VAX DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN!!!"

Back to the math: there's a reason why doing that has value, and a person who's extremely familiar with stats will tell you, "It's important to look at a time frame when all of the important variables were relatively stable."

• the ratio of vaxed vs unvaxed barely changed over 1 month. Less than 1%, if at all.
• people were exposed to the exact same variants
• it was the exact same part of the flu season

You say it was all a conspiracy theory if you want. All I'm saying is that we were lied to, and we absolutely were. 

Edited January 17, 2024 by WestCanMan

[Hodad]

10 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I don't actually care what you think, or what godzilla thinks, and I especially don't care what eyeball thinks, but when I tell the truth and some bumpkin comes back with "But Fauci said" I set the record straight. 

The point is that people who look at this page don't have to stfu and obey propaganda. They can read for themselves. They can be exposed to the truth.

You can dance round the stats and have a side conversation all you want, the fact is that you can't challenge a single thing I said. 

1. Deaths went up by 30% after 85% of the population was vaxed
2. When deaths were up by 30% in 2022, the MSM spent 95% less time talking about covid deaths.
3. Fauci was absolutely guilty of a massive conflict of interest by pretending that the wetmarket was the only sorce of covid worth looking into, because his own GoF covi virus was just a block away in a lab that was known for its safety issues
4. Covid deaths were spiking while the unvaxed were still in lockdown
5. almost 90% of covid deaths were among the multi-vaxed in the final months before Health Canada stopped releasing "covid deaths by vax status" numbers. 

Instead of just arguing, why don't you try to refute any of that, io. Be the man. Shut me up. Either one of you. Or even just try. 

You gotta admit, the things that I'm saying completely fly in the face of the successful vax narrative. And isn't it just a little weird that in the year when the most people died, the MSM said almost nothing about it? 

It wasn't just a few more. It was 24% more than 2020, and 30% more than 2022. That's a lot. Yet no "daily death toll update". Hmmmm. 

The "MSM" is focused on them United States. This has been pointed out to you many times. 

[WestCanMan]

16 minutes ago, godzilla said:

again, are you claiming a massive conspiracy? as i described that would be necessary to pull this grand scam off?

but yeah, i don't get your point exactly about the graphs. please explain. what the graphs don't show is the ration of vaxed people and their deaths to unvaxed and their deaths... and thus since some very high percentage of people in Canada are vaxed... the number of deaths as a ratio is very small compared to unvaxed. is that what you are getting at?

Do the math. 

Try to refute something I said.

You're a math guy, right?

A STATS guy.

So show me that there weren't 30% more deaths in 2022, when the MSM had completely stopped talking about covid deaths. 

Show me that less than 85% of covid deaths were among the multi-vaxed. 

Just do something math related, or stop pretending to have the first f'ing clue about math. I'm honestly really sick of debating low-IQ people who don't understand the math. Just show me something, dude. Man up. 

I'll tell you the 100% truth: we were LIED TO, bigtime. I proved that. 

You go ahead and decide for yourself what that means, idgaf. I just gave you information, and it's all true, or by now you'd have some sort of an argument against it. 

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, Hodad said:

The "MSM" is focused on them United States. This has been pointed out to you many times. 

I'm dealing with an entire country here. That's no small sample size, and no small task. 

I don't honestly think that health Canada was supposed to be releasing the "covid deaths by vax status" data. Other countries didn't, afaik. 

I don't even know any vax-pimps who are aware that so many vaxed people died. I bet you the avg American thinks that the vast majority of covid deaths were among the unvaxed. Canadians think that, and we had access to stats that showed the opposite. 

[WestCanMan]

19 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

You do care... How do I know? you respond. If you did not care, you would not respond. 

Second.. set the record straight to deaf ears. You like talking to yourself a lot. 

Third.. your dementia is getting worse. I have stated on dozens of occasions that i do not care in the least about Covid and yet no matter the discussion.. you bring it up. That speaks to your obsession and therefore lack of objectivity. 

You think I care about you because I respond to you, but nothing could be further from the truth. 

Of course there are individuals who can't be reasoned with, and you're just one of many. 

The truth needs to be told, and your babbling needs to be exposed for what it is. 

You claim to be a math guy, but you have no answer for:

1. Deaths went up by 30% in 2022, after 85% of the population was vaxed
2. When deaths were up by 30% in 2022, the MSM spent 95% less time talking about covid deaths.
3. Fauci was absolutely guilty of a massive conflict of interest by pretending that the wetmarket was the only sorce of covid worth looking into, because his own GoF covi virus was just a block away in a lab that was known for its safety issues
4. Covid deaths were spiking while the unvaxed were still in lockdown
5. almost 90% of covid deaths were among the multi-vaxed in the final months before Health Canada stopped releasing "covid deaths by vax status" numbers, but the MSM kept talking about the deaths as if they were all among the unvaxed until they just stopped talking about covid altogether.

Your only rebuttal is ""You have dementia 😝". I dunno, buddy. You're the one who has lost the ability to do math 😉

[impartialobserver]

2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

You think I care about you because I respond to you, but nothing could be further from the truth. 

Of course there are individuals who can't be reasoned with, and you're just one of many. 

The truth needs to be told, and your babbling needs to be exposed for what it is. 

You claim to be a math guy, but you have no answer for:

1. Deaths went up by 30% in 2022, after 85% of the population was vaxed
2. When deaths were up by 30% in 2022, the MSM spent 95% less time talking about covid deaths.
3. Fauci was absolutely guilty of a massive conflict of interest by pretending that the wetmarket was the only sorce of covid worth looking into, because his own GoF covi virus was just a block away in a lab that was known for its safety issues
4. Covid deaths were spiking while the unvaxed were still in lockdown
5. almost 90% of covid deaths were among the multi-vaxed in the final months before Health Canada stopped releasing "covid deaths by vax status" numbers, but the MSM kept talking about the deaths as if they were all among the unvaxed until they just stopped talking about covid altogether.

Your only rebuttal is ""You have dementia 😝". I dunno, buddy. You're the one who has lost the ability to do math 😉

For the fiftieth or so time.. I do not care about Covid. If you were actually smart.. you would comprehend that simple statement and move along. But it is clear that you do not. 

You do care what I think... again, you respond. It is clear that this is getting you worked up. Your posts show how you make this personal... hence, no objectivity. 

[WestCanMan]

Just now, impartialobserver said:

For the fiftieth or so time.. I do not care about Covid. If you were actually smart.. you would comprehend that simple statement and move along. But it is clear that you do not. 

You do care what I think... again, you respond. It is clear that this is getting you worked up. Your posts show how you make this personal... hence, no objectivity. 

You chimed into this thread and ran your mouth, so I responded with all of the pertinent facts.

The record has been set straight:

1. Deaths went up by 30% in 2022, after 85% of the population was vaxed
2. When deaths were up by 30% in 2022, the MSM spent 95% less time talking about covid deaths than before.
3. Fauci was absolutely guilty of a massive conflict of interest by pretending that the wetmarket was the only source of covid worth looking into, because his own GoF covi virus was just a block away in a lab that was known for its safety issues
4. Covid deaths were spiking while the unvaxed were still in lockdown
5. almost 90% of covid deaths were among the multi-vaxed in the final months before Health Canada stopped releasing "covid deaths by vax status" numbers, but the MSM kept talking about the deaths as if they were all among the unvaxed until they just stopped talking about covid altogether.

As it stands, leftsist are accused of being liars, vax-Nazis, etc, and there has been no rebuttal. Countries are being split in two by leftard drivel. 

Your lack of awareness of/concern for covid issues is your own business. I don't blame you for steering clear of the topic. 

[impartialobserver]

5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

You chimed into this thread and ran your mouth, so I responded with all of the pertinent facts.

The record has been set straight:

1. Deaths went up by 30% in 2022, after 85% of the population was vaxed
2. When deaths were up by 30% in 2022, the MSM spent 95% less time talking about covid deaths than before.
3. Fauci was absolutely guilty of a massive conflict of interest by pretending that the wetmarket was the only source of covid worth looking into, because his own GoF covi virus was just a block away in a lab that was known for its safety issues
4. Covid deaths were spiking while the unvaxed were still in lockdown
5. almost 90% of covid deaths were among the multi-vaxed in the final months before Health Canada stopped releasing "covid deaths by vax status" numbers, but the MSM kept talking about the deaths as if they were all among the unvaxed until they just stopped talking about covid altogether.

As it stands, leftsist are accused of being liars, vax-Nazis, etc, and there has been no rebuttal. Countries are being split in two by leftard drivel. 

Your lack of awareness of/concern for covid issues is your own business. I don't blame you for steering clear of the topic. 

I steer clear because it does not interest me.. not because I am scared but that is beyond your intellect. I find you to be endlessly amusing. Getting so worked up and confronting those who obviously do not care about what you say.. and yet you keep it. You get no results and yet nothing stops you from blasting away. But back to the point.. this is a troll thread where you are hoping to "pick a fight". I am just calling it for what it is. 

[Hodad]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

I'm dealing with an entire country here. That's no small sample size, and no small task. 

I don't honestly think that health Canada was supposed to be releasing the "covid deaths by vax status" data. Other countries didn't, afaik. 

I don't even know any vax-pimps who are aware that so many vaxed people died. I bet you the avg American thinks that the vast majority of covid deaths were among the unvaxed. Canadians think that, and we had access to stats that showed the opposite. 

Yes, I suspect most Americans are aware that mortality was dramatically higher among the unvaccinated.

Again you wouldn't want a pure count. You'd want to look at mortality within each group. 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, impartialobserver said:

I steer clear because it does not interest me.. not because I am scared but that is beyond your intellect. I find you to be endlessly amusing. Getting so worked up and confronting those who obviously do not care about what you say.. and yet you keep it. You get no results and yet nothing stops you from blasting away. But back to the point.. this is a troll thread where you are hoping to "pick a fight". I am just calling it for what it is. 

You don't care, yet you replied ten times 😂 

What's even weirder is that your allegedly vast intellect and high level of expertise in this area have never amounted to anything at all in the form of an on-topic rebuttal.

You run from every opportunity to challenge the facts and stats placed in front of you, you don't even display an ability to understand it let alone gainsay it, you make a few snotty insults, pretend not to care, then run off. You're like a first-gen AI chatbot without the sealioning feature enabled. 

[WestCanMan]

29 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Yes, I suspect most Americans are aware that mortality was dramatically higher among the unvaccinated.

I don't know what the case was in the US. 

In Canada we're 85% vaxed and 86% of our covid deaths were among the vaxed. 

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Again you wouldn't want a pure count. You'd want to look at mortality within each group. 

TBH, my goal isn't to prove that the jab did more harm than good, and I don't know where you got that impression from.

FYI none of us will ever have access to the type of data required to prove anything of the sort, because we'd need to have really specific data about all of the people in the vaxed/unvaxed groups and their respective risk levels, what variants they were exposed to, their CFR, etc. 

In Canada we know about vax status within each age group, but age is only the second highest risk factor. We don't have access to the vax rates of people with co-morbidities, or the vax status of elderly people with co-morbidities - the most important info of all. 

Just know that back when you were running around trying to get toilet paper and covering your face with an old bra, I was already telling people here that the key to making the vaccines look good was going to be "getting people who aren't at risk into the vaxed category" for reasons you probably still don't understand.  

Here's what I proved conclusively with all the facts and data that I posted: The covid jab is absolutely not effective enough to warrant mandates. Not even close. 

It's possible that it is slightly effective, and people should obviously be allowed to take it if they want to, but if covid is really as dangerous as advertised then we need to look for something better. Furthermore, due to the risk that poses to young people who aren't at risk of dying from covid, it's abhorrent that they should be forced to take it.

FYI more multi-vaxed Canadians died in 2022 (19,000 x .85 = 16,000+) than unvaxed people died in 2020 or 2021 (15K and 14K).

If the death toll in 2020 was abominable, when it was so much lower than 2022, then 2022 was a multi-vaxed apocalypse. Think of all the advantages 2022 had over 2020:

1. everyone was unvaxed for all of 2020
2. covid was still a novel virus in 2020
3. 30,000 of the most vulnerable Canadians had already died in 2020 and 2021
4. at the start of 2022 all of the dirty unvaxed were bottled up - only the vaxed were able to be out and about. At the start of 2020 even people fresh outta Wuhan were running free in Trudeauland.

85% vaxed + deaths soaring = vaccine.

Next.

[godzilla]

36 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I don't know what the case was in the US. 

In Canada we're 85% vaxed and 86% of our covid deaths were among the vaxed. 

TBH, my goal isn't to prove that the jab did more harm than good, and I don't know where you got that impression from.

FYI none of us will ever have access to the type of data required to prove anything of the sort, because we'd need to have really specific data about all of the people in the vaxed/unvaxed groups and their respective risk levels, what variants they were exposed to, their CFR, etc. 

In Canada we know about vax status within each age group, but age is only the second highest risk factor. We don't have access to the vax rates of people with co-morbidities, or the vax status of elderly people with co-morbidities - the most important info of all. 

Just know that back when you were running around trying to get toilet paper and covering your face with an old bra, I was already telling people here that the key to making the vaccines look good was going to be "getting people who aren't at risk into the vaxed category" for reasons you probably still don't understand.  

Here's what I proved conclusively with all the facts and data that I posted: The covid jab is absolutely not effective enough to warrant mandates. Not even close. 

It's possible that it is slightly effective, and people should obviously be allowed to take it if they want to, but if covid is really as dangerous as advertised then we need to look for something better. Furthermore, due to the risk that poses to young people who aren't at risk of dying from covid, it's abhorrent that they should be forced to take it.

FYI more multi-vaxed Canadians died in 2022 (19,000 x .85 = 16,000+) than unvaxed people died in 2020 or 2021 (15K and 14K).

If the death toll in 2020 was abominable, when it was so much lower than 2022, then 2022 was a multi-vaxed apocalypse. Think of all the advantages 2022 had over 2020:

1. everyone was unvaxed for all of 2020
2. covid was still a novel virus in 2020
3. 30,000 of the most vulnerable Canadians had already died in 2020 and 2021
4. at the start of 2022 all of the dirty unvaxed were bottled up - only the vaxed were able to be out and about. At the start of 2020 even people fresh outta Wuhan were running free in Trudeauland.

85% vaxed + deaths soaring = vaccine.

Next.

what? slow down cowboy... i can't read that fast.

you didn't answer my question about the grand conspiracy thing. its still going on?

you didn't answer my question about the ratio of vaxed vs unvaxed to death. not important?

in fact, you fail to ever mention WHAT THE POPULATION IS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. the important numbers are, as i mentioned, vaxed vs unvaxed to death and, vaxed vs unvaxed to confirmed covid. BOTH AS RATIOS TO THEIR RESPECTIVE POPULATIONS.

and those are the only numbers that matter. if you aren't taking covid cases or deaths as a ratio of the populations then the numbers tell nothing.

How do death rates from COVID-19 differ between people who are vaccinated and those who are not?

Edited January 17, 2024 by godzilla

[WestCanMan]

41 minutes ago, godzilla said:

what? slow down cowboy... i can't read that fast.

Shocker.

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you didn't answer my question about the grand conspiracy thing. its still going on?

Call it what you want. Facts are still facts.

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you didn't answer my question about the ratio of vaxed vs unvaxed to death. not important?

Here's the answer to whatever ^that^ is:

gibberish

/ˈdʒɪb(ə)rɪʃ/

noun

• 1.unintelligible or meaningless speech or writing; nonsense:

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in fact, you fail to ever mention WHAT THE POPULATION IS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

Canada. It's a country in the northern part of North America. 

Population of about 40M. A really good sample size by any reckoning.

Buddy, if you' haven't been able to glean at least that much information out of all these posts then maybe figgerin' an all 'at en't yer thang.

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the important numbers are, as i mentioned, vaxed vs unvaxed to death and, vaxed vs unvaxed to confirmed covid. BOTH AS RATIOS TO THEIR RESPECTIVE POPULATIONS.

TBH, I know what you're trying to say, I'm just enjoying watching you try to spit it out.

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and those are the only numbers that matter. if you aren't taking covid cases or deaths as a ratio of the populations then the numbers tell nothing.

Of course they mean something, stupid. Over 16,000 multi-vaxed people died in 2022. That's higher than the number of people who died in 2020, and zero people were vaxed that year. It was also a novel virus. We also started that year with no lockdowns. 

In the beginning of 2022 the unvaxed were locked down. Only the unvaxed were allowed to roam, and we had the highest death toll ever during those months. 

Those facts say just about everything that you need to know about covid.

And FYI CFR is a crap stat, because only covidjits get tested, so of course the vaxtards are going to have a higher case count. 

I only got tested once with a test that went to a lab during the whole fiasco. 

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How do death rates from COVID-19 differ between people who are vaccinated and those who are not?

😂

You stupid, stupid little man.

Do you even understand what that is showing you?

It just says that you need to look at the number of the deaths in proportion to the size of their group. 

Their article showed 5 deaths from each group, but noted that one group was several times larger than the other.

If there was an equal number of deaths, then of course that would indicate vax success. 

There is not an equal number of deaths. almost 6x as many vaxed people died. Their population is almost 6x as large. 

85/100 Canadians were vaxed. 86/100 Canadians who died of covid were vaxed. Do you see a pattern there?

 

FYI, if you want to make a successful argument in the future, it looks like this: 

"A greater percentage of elderly people were vaxed than unvaxed, and almost all of the covid deaths in Canada came from the elderly. In fact, 66% of covid deathsoccurred among people 80+, and that's only 4% of our population. Based on the high vax-rates of the elderly, it was to be expected that a lot of the deaths would come from that group, but the small number of unvaxed in that group died at a disproportionately high rate in order to account for 14% of covid deaths."

When the smartest among you get to that stage, where they can understand or at least regurgitate that argument, I'll say three things:

1. Age is the second-highest risk factor, co-morbidities being the highest, and we don't have vax rates for that group
2. there will be a lot of people in a group called "very elderly with co-morbidities", who wouldn't be bothered with getting vaccinated because they knew that they were going to die anyways. Almost everyone in that group would be certain to die regardless of whether they got covid or not. We don't even know if they were de-prioritized for vaxing based on their ultra-low chance of living more than a month or two. What was their vax rate? Could they even get the vax? 
3. If the most at-risk group had a 95% vax rate, and the vax gave them all an 80% higher chance of survival, then the total number of covid deaths in 2022 should have been down by at least 70%, but they were 24% higher than our unvaxed year, and 30% higher than 2021 with about 50% vaxed. That makes the vax's legacy: "We vaxed 85% of the country, including 95% of the at-risk population, but the death toll still increased by 30%. The vaccine is clearly not doing anything to reduce the death toll. It is an unmitigated failure." 

Take it if you want, but the case for vax mandates can never be made based on what happened in Canada. The end did not justify the means. 

[impartialobserver]

14 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

You don't care, yet you replied ten times 😂 

What's even weirder is that your allegedly vast intellect and high level of expertise in this area have never amounted to anything at all in the form of an on-topic rebuttal.

You run from every opportunity to challenge the facts and stats placed in front of you, you don't even display an ability to understand it let alone gainsay it, you make a few snotty insults, pretend not to care, then run off. You're like a first-gen AI chatbot without the sealioning feature enabled. 

This is you in a nutshell.. The c_cksure little rooster that "sets everybody straight". So confident and boastful. And yet after your speech, you look around and find that no one is there. No one was listening. Oh... but you speak the truth and yet no one cares what you say. However, because you have no self awareness.. you stand tall and tell yourself that you set them id10ts straight. Completely unaware that no one listened. All that time spent writing these impassioned posts and yet nothing changed. Lather, rinse, and repeat.. you say the same thing over and over again and get the same response. Your complete inability to recognize that you are not "setting anyone straight" is comical. 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, impartialobserver said:

Your complete inability to recognize that you are not "setting anyone straight" is comical. 

It's worse than comical, its deadly. He's not setting anyone straight at all, he's directly contributing to the stream of misinformation that steers people into making deadly decisions.

Its death and disease spread by word of mouth.

Vaccine hesitancy, fuelled by misinformation and conspiracy theories, led to thousands of unnecessary deaths and hospital stays and cost the health care system at least $300-million during two COVID-19 waves in 2021, according to a report that highlights the urgent risk to society of such false claims.

https://archive.ph/S168Y#selection-1363.0-1367.101 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, impartialobserver said:

This is you in a nutshell.. The c_cksure little rooster that "sets everybody straight". So confident and boastful. And yet after your speech, you look around and find that no one is there. No one was listening. Oh... but you speak the truth and yet no one cares what you say. However, because you have no self awareness.. you stand tall and tell yourself that you set them id10ts straight. Completely unaware that no one listened. All that time spent writing these impassioned posts and yet nothing changed. Lather, rinse, and repeat.. you say the same thing over and over again and get the same response. Your complete inability to recognize that you are not "setting anyone straight" is comical. 

Me: unchallenged facts and stats.

Vax:

1. Deaths went up by 30% in 2022, after 85% of the population was vaxed
2. When deaths were up by 30% in 2022, the MSM spent 95% less time talking about covid deaths than before.
3. Fauci was absolutely guilty of a massive conflict of interest by pretending that the wetmarket was the only source of covid worth looking into, because his own GoF covi virus was just a block away in a lab that was known for its safety issues
4. Covid deaths were spiking while the unvaxed were still in lockdown
5. almost 90% of covid deaths were among the multi-vaxed in the final months before Health Canada stopped releasing "covid deaths by vax status" numbers, but the MSM kept talking about the deaths as if they were all among the unvaxed until they just stopped talking about covid altogether.

You: snotty insults. 

Buh bye, kiddo.

[godzilla]

13 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

You stupid, stupid little man.

 

It just says that you need to look at the number of the deaths in proportion to the size of their group. 

Their article showed 5 deaths from each group, but noted that one group was several times larger than the other.

If there was an equal number of deaths, then of course that would indicate vax success. 

There is not an equal number of deaths. almost 6x as many vaxed people died. Their population is almost 6x as large. 

85/100 Canadians were vaxed. 86/100 Canadians who died of covid were vaxed. Do you see a pattern there?

 

first of all, i'm no stupid and neither are you. please control your frustration.

lets take this bit by bit shall we. that will help everyone understand.

yes, thats the point i was trying to make that deaths numbers need to be in proportion to the size of their group.

so please provide verifiable statistics that "86/100 Canadians who died of covid were vaxed". i'm unable to find anything to support this.

'You can't just look at the raw data': Unvaccinated patients dying from COVID-19 at higher rates in several provinces

"Provincial (Alberta) data shows the death rate is about 56.5 per 100,000 people among those who are unvaccinated and five years of age or older. Meanwhile, the death rate for people who are vaccinated with two doses drops to 12.5 per 100,000 people. Those vaccinated with three doses had a death rate of 13.3 per 100,000, however, a majority of these deaths were among patients who were at least 80 years of age, a group that is especially vulnerable to COVID-19-related hospitalization and death"

so yeah, if you were saying that old people don't have much of a chance either way then that appears to be true.

[WestCanMan]

5 minutes ago, eyeball said:

It's worse than comical, its deadly. He's not setting anyone straight at all, he's directly contributing to the stream of misinformation that steers people into making deadly decisions.

Its death and disease spread by word of mouth.

Vaccine hesitancy, fuelled by misinformation and conspiracy theories, led to thousands of unnecessary deaths and hospital stays and cost the health care system at least $300-million during two COVID-19 waves in 2021, according to a report that highlights the urgent risk to society of such false claims.

https://archive.ph/S168Y#selection-1363.0-1367.101 

That's insanely stupid.

The unvaxed were locked up, and only the vaxtards were free to spread covid back then. It's all on you guys.

When variants broke out in places like SA, the unvaxed had absolutely no access to those places because we couldn't fly, but the vaxtrads flew there and back, spreading it like wildfire here.

Your id10tic story might make sense if it was all the unvaxed crowding the hospitals, but 86% of the people dying there were vaxtards. 

Gawd you're a sucker.

[godzilla]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

Me: unchallenged facts and stats.

Vax:

1. Deaths went up by 30% in 2022, after 85% of the population was vaxed
2. When deaths were up by 30% in 2022, the MSM spent 95% less time talking about covid deaths than before.
3. Fauci was absolutely guilty of a massive conflict of interest by pretending that the wetmarket was the only source of covid worth looking into, because his own GoF covi virus was just a block away in a lab that was known for its safety issues
4. Covid deaths were spiking while the unvaxed were still in lockdown
5. almost 90% of covid deaths were among the multi-vaxed in the final months before Health Canada stopped releasing "covid deaths by vax status" numbers, but the MSM kept talking about the deaths as if they were all among the unvaxed until they just stopped talking about covid altogether.

You: snotty insults. 

Buh bye, kiddo.

1. you don't site but willing accept as true. but what was the population of people who are getting covid? the disease continues to spread. everybody will be getting it. so did the number of people actually getting covid jump 500% or something?
2. who is MSM?
3. who cares?
4. yeah, again... people still get covid even though they are vaccinated. VACCINES DO NOT PREVENT PEOPLE FROM COMING INTO CONTACT WITH THE VIRUS.
5. again, again... what was the population? everyone is getting covid. the point is that if you are unvaccinated you have a staggeringly higher chance of death.

[taxme]

On 1/12/2024 at 8:27 PM, WestCanMan said:

There's not a leftist here that can name a positive achievement by Trudeau or Biden. Those two just aren't achievers. All they do is virtue signal and f everything up royally.

Yet somehow, leftards on this site can't find any fault with them, and they cling to every anti-Trump anti-Poilievre story that comes along like drowning men clutching at straws.

Who on God's green earth would look out their window and think to themselves "Another term of Biden/Trudeau is just what the doctor ordered"?

These leftards do nothing but spew lies, exaggerate, omit, cheer on FBI crimes, and their campaign slogans are platitudes like "If Trump wins it's the end of democracy!"

On average, these guys are 4 yr olds at best. I can't help but wonder how much actual value our countries get out of 10M leftists... What do they contribute that's worthwhile? 

We really need to take the warning labels off of everything. This is what we get for trying to defy Darwinism. 

The demonrats are always whining and keep saying that if Trump becomes President democracy will be in peril. Yet, at the same time, these demonrats are trying to destroy democracy just by watching all that they are doing today and their anti-democratic actions in America to try and destroy democracy. Democracy will be in peril, and even lost, if those demonrats win the next election. Those lefty liberal arse holes must be stropped or else freedom as Americans know it today will be eliminated. Never trust democracy in the hands of the liberal/demonrats because they do not believe in freedom and democracy. Democracy is a nasty problem that keeps getting in their communist like minded way.   

Help save democracy. GO, TRUMP, GO. 😇

[godzilla]

2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

That's insanely stupid.

The unvaxed were locked up, and only the vaxtards were free to spread covid back then. It's all on you guys.

When variants broke out in places like SA, the unvaxed had absolutely no access to those places because we couldn't fly, but the vaxtrads flew there and back, spreading it like wildfire here.

Your id10tic story might make sense if it was all the unvaxed crowding the hospitals, but 86% of the people dying there were vaxtards. 

Gawd you're a sucker.

nobody was locked up.

but i do agree that variants are spread by vaccinated people. its just slower to spread than with unvaxed. there is not stopping it unless we close borders completely.

[godzilla]

3 minutes ago, taxme said:

The demonrats are always whining and keep saying that if Trump becomes President democracy will be in peril. Yet, at the same time, these demonrats are trying to destroy democracy just by watching all that they are doing today and their anti-democratic actions in America to try and destroy democracy. Democracy will be in peril, and even lost, if those demonrats win the next election. Those lefty liberal arse holes must be stropped or else freedom as Americans know it today will be eliminated. Never trust democracy in the hands of the liberal/demonrats because they do not believe in freedom and democracy. Democracy is a nasty problem that keeps getting in their communist like minded way.   

Help save democracy. GO, TRUMP, GO. 😇

can you please site an instance where Democrats have eroded democracy?

hows this... Donald Trump instigated a plan to have illegal electors sign fraudulent documents to send to congress. Then senators were engaged to argue that those fraudulent documents had standing. Then the Vice President was engaged to not certify legitimate electors based on the existence of fraudulent electors.

that last part is the only thing that didn't go through.

i have yet to see any attempt by pro Trump people on this site to address the simple facts that i just provided. 

[CdnFox]

Just now, godzilla said:

can you please site an instance where Democrats have eroded democracy?

Dude they LITERALLY just pulled trump from the ballot in two states on grounds that NOBODY thinks they had the authority to.

They literally created a fake dossier and used to weaponize the FBI to go after their political opponent.

They have pushed for less accountability at the polling stations - that badly erodes people's faith in democracy as we've CLEARLY seen in the last few years with a huge percent of the population having NO faith in the last election results because there's so many avenues for cheating that couldn't' be detected.

THat's before we get into spending 4 years falsely claiming that trump is illigitmate as a president due to 'collusion'. which very obviously never happened.  But that they assured would be proven any day now for 4 years.  You've STILL got hillary appearing on tv saying trump is an illegitimate president. '

Doesn't mean the republicans are guilt free on that score either but don't you DARE pretend the dems haven't done a lot to erode democracy