blackbird Posted December 28, 2023 Report Posted December 28, 2023 12 hours ago, TreeBeard said: No one said there was. The OP wants to ban protests they disagree with. Do you think anti-Semitism has a place in Canada or anti-Semitic protests and demonstrations are legal? 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted December 28, 2023 Report Posted December 28, 2023 11 hours ago, Army Guy said: Want to demonstrate then do so...but you will find their message is not so peaceful, nor legal... No the demonstrations are pretty clear in their messages, they want a one state solution, and the complete state of Palestine which includes the state of Israel....not sure how they can do that with out pushing Israelis into the sea, pretty sure that is hate speech at it's finest... And the number of 20,000 comes from Hamas...which has not been confirmed by no other NGO in the area...remember the hospital bombing that killed 500 , the one that turned out to be a malfunction rocket, that did not kill anyone but rather injured people...Nothing out of Gaza can be taken as fact... No but Hamas was elected by a huge majority, and people seem fine with that result, as there has been very little uprising or talk of it... Yes, the demonstrators want their own state, as was given to Israel. I have not heard they want all i=of Israel. The deaths were validated by UN. "The World Health Organization says tens of thousands of Palestinians are fleeing central Gaza and Khan Younis, attempting to escape Israeli attacks. In Gaza, at least 21,110 people have been killed and 55,243 injured in Israeli attacks since October 7" and "Hamas received 44.45% of the vote and won 74 of the 132 seats, whilst the ruling Fatah received 41.43% of the vote " Not so huge. Our PM won with only about 38% of the vote and Harper before that won with 36% Look, I am not pro either side but it does make you wonder why all over the world there are demonstrations in support of Palestinians and not Israelis? And yes, there are radicals on both sides. Quote It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
Gaétan Posted December 28, 2023 Report Posted December 28, 2023 48 minutes ago, blackbird said: Do you think Israel has the right to exist? After what they have done, No. 1 Quote
blackbird Posted December 28, 2023 Report Posted December 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Gaétan said: After what they have done, No. How should Israel defend itself against terrorist organizations like Hamas? Quote
ExFlyer Posted December 28, 2023 Report Posted December 28, 2023 57 minutes ago, blackbird said: ..... Do you think Israel has the right to exist? How should they protect themselves from terrorists like Hamas? Absolutely, but Palestinians also have the right to exist as well. How would you feel if you were surrounded by a wall and told that is where you can live? Land that is Israeli occupied, controlled and ruled? Quote It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
blackbird Posted December 28, 2023 Report Posted December 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Absolutely, but Palestinians also have the right to exist as well. How would you feel if you were surrounded by a wall and told that is where you can live? Land that is Israeli occupied, controlled and ruled? If you are a terrorist supporter, you should be kept behind a wall. How would you propose Israel defend itself against the terrorists? Quote
Gaétan Posted December 28, 2023 Report Posted December 28, 2023 1 minute ago, blackbird said: How should Israel defend itself against terrorist organizations like Hamas? They can prevent the shots from reaching them with their dome and incursions into their territory with their army more equipped with weapons and number of soldiers. They can negotiate with Hamas for their withdrawal from the occupied territories and the return of refugees in exchange for peace. They cannot go into Gaza and try to fight Hamas over there because of the lost of innocent lives. 1 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted December 28, 2023 Report Posted December 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, Gaétan said: They can prevent the shots from reaching them with their dome and incursions into their territory with their army more equipped with weapons and number of soldiers. They can negotiate with Hamas for their withdrawal from the occupied territories and the return of refugees in exchange for peace. They cannot go into Gaza and try to fight Hamas over there because of the lost of innocent lives. Negotiate? With Hamas? Now there's a stupid idea. While I would like to see the west bank given nationhood for the Palestinians, to create such a nation would be to invite more conflict. No...the only way to ensure peace and the existence of Israel, is to decisively destroy Gaza. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
NAME REMOVED Posted December 28, 2023 Author Report Posted December 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Gaétan said: By protesting, they hope that Canada will stop helping Netanyahu kill people and put pressure on him to stop his slaughter. I thought you knew this, it was Netanyahu who brought the war here, not the Palestinians Shut the hell up. Hamas started this by murdering 1,200 innocent people in cold blood. Did that slip your mind, or do you need a history lesson? Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted December 28, 2023 Author Report Posted December 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Negotiate? With Hamas? Now there's a stupid idea. While I would like to see the west bank given nationhood for the Palestinians, to create such a nation would be to invite more conflict. No...the only way to ensure peace and the existence of Israel, is to decisively destroy Gaza. You are very correct, Nationalist. Israel should drive out all the people of Gaza, perhaps to Egypt and other countries. As for the West Bank, Israel is kind enough to let the Palestinian reside there. If Palestinians create problems, just let the settlers eradicate then. 23 minutes ago, Gaétan said: They can prevent the shots from reaching them with their dome and incursions into their territory with their army more equipped with weapons and number of soldiers. They can negotiate with Hamas for their withdrawal from the occupied territories and the return of refugees in exchange for peace. They cannot go into Gaza and try to fight Hamas over there because of the lost of innocent lives. LMAO. Thanks for the laugh. Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted December 28, 2023 Author Report Posted December 28, 2023 30 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Absolutely, but Palestinians also have the right to exist as well. How would you feel if you were surrounded by a wall and told that is where you can live? Land that is Israeli occupied, controlled and ruled? Perhaps the Palestinians should not have committed terrorist acts for 25 years before Israel built the wall to prevent that from happening. Quote
Nationalist Posted December 28, 2023 Report Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: You are very correct, Nationalist. Israel should drive out all the people of Gaza, perhaps to Egypt and other countries. As for the West Bank, Israel is kind enough to let the Palestinian reside there. If Palestinians create problems, just let the settlers eradicate then. LMAO. Thanks for the laugh. Drive them out? That seems to be the only possible outcome now. This will bring more future attacks. No...Israel can no longer hope for peace. No matter what they do now, there will be more attacks. They should have leveled Gaza on day one. Then turned to the west Bank and said... 'Who's next'. Edited December 28, 2023 by Nationalist 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Gaétan Posted December 28, 2023 Report Posted December 28, 2023 20 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: Shut the hell up. Hamas started this by murdering 1,200 innocent people in cold blood. Did that slip your mind, or do you need a history lesson? The conflict did not start that day, Israeli settlers and soldiers have been killing Palestinians every day for decades 1 1 Quote
blackbird Posted December 28, 2023 Report Posted December 28, 2023 44 minutes ago, Gaétan said: They can prevent the shots from reaching them with their dome and incursions into their territory with their army more equipped with weapons and number of soldiers. They can negotiate with Hamas for their withdrawal from the occupied territories and the return of refugees in exchange for peace. They cannot go into Gaza and try to fight Hamas over there because of the lost of innocent lives. What you are saying it is ok for Hamas to kill 1,200 Israeli citizens and take 200 hostage, but Israel is not supposed to fight back or destroy the terrorists? Seriously! You need to give your head a shake. You are living in a dream world, not reality. 1 minute ago, Gaétan said: The conflict did not start that day, Israeli settlers and soldiers have been killing Palestinians every day for decades That is not true. There was a truce until October 7th. But Hamas broke that truce and attacked Israeli citizens. Are you ok with Hamas doing that? 1 Quote
Gaétan Posted December 28, 2023 Report Posted December 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, blackbird said: That is not true. There was a truce until October 7th. But Hamas broke that truce and attacked Israeli citizens. Are you ok with Hamas doing that? What is not true is anything you say, they just show a settler kill a palestinian on tv the other day and if the wife complains about it the israelis judge pig put her in prison for 30 years. Quote
ExFlyer Posted December 28, 2023 Report Posted December 28, 2023 29 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: Perhaps the Palestinians should not have committed terrorist acts for 25 years before Israel built the wall to prevent that from happening. Yeah sure. LOL Quote It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
ExFlyer Posted December 28, 2023 Report Posted December 28, 2023 57 minutes ago, blackbird said: If you are a terrorist supporter, you should be kept behind a wall. How would you propose Israel defend itself against the terrorists? As I have said many times before, I care not what happens over there. I support neither side. I am sorry your reading comprehension and/or retention is so poor. Israel can defend but they also have to know when to stop...which clearly they don't. Perhaps they have a body count target?? Quote It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
NAME REMOVED Posted December 28, 2023 Author Report Posted December 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Drive them out? That seems to be the only possible outcome now. This will bring more future attacks. No...Israel can no longer hope for peace. No matter what they do now, there will be more attacks. They should have leveled Gaza on day one. Then turned to the west Bank and said... 'Who's next'. Now we do not see eye to eye, but you are 100% correct. There is only one solution to the Palestinian problem. EXPULSION. The Palestinians have proven that they only care about eradicating Jews from the face of the Earth. SO that leaves two options: 1. Ethnic cleansing. Force the Arab states to absorb most of the population. 2. Genocide. We have to keep in mind, that the Arab states ethnically cleaned 1,00,000 Jews in Arab lands from 1948-51, after Israel declared independence Some of the Jewish communities in Iraq, Yemen, Syria, Egypt, Morocco, Iran, Tunisia, etc. has existed for centuries. . Just now, ExFlyer said: Israel can defend but they also have to know when to stop...which clearly they don't. Perhaps they have a body count target?? What about the 1,000,000 Jews that the Arab nations ethnically cleaned After 1948? Quote
ExFlyer Posted December 28, 2023 Report Posted December 28, 2023 38 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: Shut the hell up. Hamas started this by murdering 1,200 innocent people in cold blood. Did that slip your mind, or do you need a history lesson? Owww, what a retort. Clearly if that is what you can come up with, you are losing your position LOL Quote It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
NAME REMOVED Posted December 28, 2023 Author Report Posted December 28, 2023 Just now, ExFlyer said: Owww, what a retort. Clearly if that is what you can come up with, you are losing your position LOL You refuse to even acknowledge that Hamas executed the worst terrorist attack against innocent Israelis since the Holocaust (1,200 deaths). How are arguing in bad faith. Quote
ExFlyer Posted December 28, 2023 Report Posted December 28, 2023 14 minutes ago, blackbird said: What you are saying it is ok for Hamas to kill 1,200 Israeli citizens and take 200 hostage, but Israel is not supposed to fight back or destroy the terrorists? Seriously! You need to give your head a shake. You are living in a dream world, not reality. That is not true. There was a truce until October 7th. But Hamas broke that truce and attacked Israeli citizens. Are you ok with Hamas doing that? But its OK to kill 20,000, primarily citizens and women and children? Did your Christianity leave you? LOL Or is there a parable or verse that demands retaliation times 10?? Quote It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
Nationalist Posted December 28, 2023 Report Posted December 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: Now we do not see eye to eye, but you are 100% correct. There is only one solution to the Palestinian problem. EXPULSION. The Palestinians have proven that they only care about eradicating Jews from the face of the Earth. SO that leaves two options: 1. Ethnic cleansing. Force the Arab states to absorb most of the population. 2. Genocide. We have to keep in mind, that the Arab states ethnically cleaned 1,00,000 Jews in Arab lands from 1948-51, after Israel declared independence Some of the Jewish communities in Iraq, Yemen, Syria, Egypt, Morocco, Iran, Tunisia, etc. has existed for centuries. . What about the 1,000,000 Jews that the Arab nations ethnically cleaned After 1948? I don't care much for zionists. I merely state the cold reality. Truth be told...I have no use for zionists or Palestinians. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
blackbird Posted December 28, 2023 Report Posted December 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, Gaétan said: What is not true is anything you say, they just show a settler kill a palestinian on tv the other day and if the wife complains about it the israelis judge pig put her in prison for 30 years. You didn't answer the question? Was it ok for Hamas to attack Israeli citizens and kill 1,200 people and take 200 hostage. 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted December 28, 2023 Report Posted December 28, 2023 Just now, DUI_Offender said: You refuse to even acknowledge that Hamas executed the worst terrorist attack against innocent Israelis since the Holocaust (1,200 deaths). How are arguing in bad faith. I acknowledge or support nothing , from either side. What is it that you don't get? Retaliation by killing 20,000 non combatants and women and children seems to be OK by you. 6 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: Now we do not see eye to eye, but you are 100% correct. .... What about the 1,000,000 Jews that the Arab nations ethnically cleaned After 1948? Huh? Resort to making shit up are we LOL Quote It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
NAME REMOVED Posted December 28, 2023 Author Report Posted December 28, 2023 Just now, ExFlyer said: I acknowledge or support nothing , from either side. What is it that you don't get? Retaliation by killing 20,000 non combatants and women and children seems to be OK by you. So you downplay Hamas murdering 1,200 Israelis. Most were at a rave, or were enjoying a day off at their Kibbutz. IMO, Israel should actually kill more Palestinians. Make the ratio 50:1. What Hamas did was horrible, and Israel is simply doing what every other nation would do, destroy a weaker enemy. Quote
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