There was no insurrection, you more onz.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Like...the Ukraine news service?

I've started a dozen+ threads here in the last month ALL of which are supported by cites from different news sources in the OP. 

Thanks for admitting you're too stupid to understand what those cites mean about my news sources. LMAO

[Nationalist]

9 hours ago, robosmith said:

I've started a dozen+ threads here in the last month ALL of which are supported by cites from different news sources in the OP. 

Thanks for admitting you're too stupid to understand what those cites mean about my news sources. LMAO

Where do you think your sources get their dumb ideas from?

[Rebound]

On 12/23/2023 at 2:32 PM, Perspektiv said:

To me, the disturbing part is you have Trump playing innocent, and trying to convince people that he is. 

He isn't. Maybe could get away with not as guilty as charged, but that would be it.

The other side, are those showing desperation to get him silenced, knowing it only bolsters his base and adds constituents to his ballot.

Oh, I don’t care if he’s silenced or not, I just want to see him in prison where he belongs.  

[Hodad]

37 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Oh, I don’t care if he’s silenced or not, I just want to see him in prison where he belongs.  

He'll have as many pen pals as he wants and MAGA drones lined up outside the conjugal trailer for miles.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

Oh, I don’t care if he’s silenced or not, I just want to see him in prison where he belongs.  

I think what separates America from a third world country would be reduced, when a prior sitting president or candidate can be threatened with jail. 

[CdnFox]

12 hours ago, robosmith said:

I've started a dozen+ threads here in the last month ALL of which are supported by cites from different news sources in the OP. 

Thanks for admitting you're too stupid to understand what those cites mean about my news sources. LMAO

Your sources never actually say what you claim they say.  You'll post something, but then if you read it it doesn't actually support your argument.

I'm not sure if you realized this but it's ONLY a cite if it actually cites the thing you're supposed to cite  

[Rebound]

30 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

I think what separates America from a third world country would be reduced, when a prior sitting president or candidate can be threatened with jail. 

It’s unfortunate that Donald Trump committed so many crimes. But he did. The guy was born filthy rich and believed that laws were for the little people, and they didn’t apply to him at all. 

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Where do you think your sources get their dumb ideas from?

Almost ALL major legitimate news sources get their REPORTING by exhaustively interviewing CONGRESSMEN and EXECUTIVE OFFICE HOLDERS.

Unlike you viewers of FOS LIES which gets their information from the LIES by their competitors as revealed in the Dominion lawsuit DISCOVERY.

Apparently you still don't know that FOS LIED to compete with their small competitors who were pulling away their viewers with more extreme LIES the MAGA CULT wanted to hear.

Of course with your limited sources, you never heard about that. LMAO

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

I think what separates America from a third world country would be reduced, when a prior sitting president or candidate can be threatened with jail. 

He is ONLY "threatened" by the EVIDENCE he CREATED. And the jury which hears it and decides.

[CdnFox]

59 minutes ago, Rebound said:

It’s unfortunate that Donald Trump committed so many crimes. But he did. The guy was born filthy rich and believed that laws were for the little people, and they didn’t apply to him at all. 

They all do. Clinton (both) , biden, etc.  Some are better at hushing it than others but they all do.

And there would be nothing wrong with saying "enough of that" and going after all the powerful or wealthy or political individuals when they break the law - PROVIDED you do it EVENLY.

But you don't let hillary of the hook for a crime, then try to charge trump for essentially the same crime. You dont' let clinton profit from selling influence through their charity while she's the foreign secretary and then get mad at trump because you think he may have overestimated his property which nobody actually complained about.

It's fine to say we should be having a zero crime tolerance for politicians but then you have to make sure that is evenly enforced and right now it's not.  Mr Clinton raped women, Ms clinton sold influence while in office... i'm NOT supposed to care about that but get all worked up because trump said his home was worth more to get loans he's already paid back?

[Guest]

16 minutes ago, robosmith said:

He is ONLY "threatened" by the EVIDENCE he CREATED. And the jury which hears it and decides

And the pending election he threatens to win if not jailed or seriously reduced in his ability to run.

Democrats knew the timing would be suspicious. But they also knew they had to pull all stops to prevent him from winning.

He is a crook. Zero doubt about it. But these allegations are purely political in nature.

Its not an even brush that applies to crimes while in office, and opens a pandora box for opposition facing someone with more power and influence than they do.

[Rebound]

33 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

And the pending election he threatens to win if not jailed or seriously reduced in his ability to run.

Democrats knew the timing would be suspicious. But they also knew they had to pull all stops to prevent him from winning.

He is a crook. Zero doubt about it. But these allegations are purely political in nature.

Its not an even brush that applies to crimes while in office, and opens a pandora box for opposition facing someone with more power and influence than they do.

Lying dozens of times on financial disclosures isn’t a political crime.  Stealing hundreds of highly classified documents and deliberately concealing them from government subpoenas is not a political crime. 

[CdnFox]

36 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

And the pending election he threatens to win if not jailed or seriously reduced in his ability to run.

Democrats knew the timing would be suspicious. But they also knew they had to pull all stops to prevent him from winning.

He is a crook. Zero doubt about it. But these allegations are purely political in nature.

Its not an even brush that applies to crimes while in office, and opens a pandora box for opposition facing someone with more power and influence than they do.

I don't think it panned out for them as well as they thought. The very obvious political nature of the charges have tended to give him some sort of  "living martyrdom" and boosted his popularity, as well as keeping him front and center in the media cycle which is totally his wheel house.

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Lying dozens of times on financial disclosures isn’t a political crime.

It isn't actually. Sorry.  I'm not going to have to explain this to you again am i?

Quote

 Stealing hundreds of highly classified documents and deliberately concealing them from government subpoenas is not a political crime. 

I think it is and i think she should have gone up on charges for it.

Wait.... who were you talking about?

if all they went after him for is the paperwork they'd have had a better public case.  But it's been blatantly obvious since the first utterly farcical "many misdemeanours makes a felony' case that tried to make a  bar of soap out of compressing many left over slivers that they're trying to nail him on virtually ANYTHING possible no matter how far they have to stretch the law.

and as a result people don't really believe the whole 'document' cluster of charges even though those ones actually have legitimacy

A bad case of 'boy who cried trump"  i'm afraid.

[robosmith]

43 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

And the pending election he threatens to win if not jailed or seriously reduced in his ability to run.

Democrats knew the timing would be suspicious. But they also knew they had to pull all stops to prevent him from winning.

He is a crook. Zero doubt about it. But these allegations are purely political in nature.

Its not an even brush that applies to crimes while in office, and opens a pandora box for opposition facing someone with more power and influence than they do.

What timing is "suspicious"?

The suspicious thing is taking so long to get to Trump's indictment, ignoring that the SOP is the DoJ always goes after the minions first to gather MORE evidence against the mob boss.

[CdnFox]

Just now, robosmith said:

What timing is "suspicious"?

The suspicious thing is taking so long to get to Trump's indictment, ignoring that the SOP is the DoJ always goes after the minions first to gather MORE evidence against the mob boss.

What minions did they go after first in the new york case?

oh yeah, - none.

LOL - you can't even be wrong right.

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

Almost ALL major legitimate news sources get their REPORTING by exhaustively interviewing CONGRESSMEN and EXECUTIVE OFFICE HOLDERS.

Unlike you viewers of FOS LIES which gets their information from the LIES by their competitors as revealed in the Dominion lawsuit DISCOVERY.

Apparently you still don't know that FOS LIED to compete with their small competitors who were pulling away their viewers with more extreme LIES the MAGA CULT wanted to hear.

Of course with your limited sources, you never heard about that. LMAO

He is ONLY "threatened" by the EVIDENCE he CREATED. And the jury which hears it and decides.

Man you have a hate-filled soul. That's gotta be painful.

Meh...to the topic...

https://nypost.com/2023/12/10/opinion/newsguard-extorts-sites-to-follow-the-government-narrative/

Your "news media" is one long litany of lies. All controlled by government agencies.

Zelinsky has an even heavier hand on Ukrainian news.

Ya...you're swimming in lies. But eventually the truth eeks out...

And makes you look foolish.

[robosmith]

6 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Man you have a hate-filled soul. That's gotta be painful.

Meh...to the topic...

https://nypost.com/2023/12/10/opinion/newsguard-extorts-sites-to-follow-the-government-narrative/

Your "news media" is one long litany of lies. All controlled by government agencies.

Zelinsky has an even heavier hand on Ukrainian news.

Ya...you're swimming in lies. But eventually the truth eeks out...

And makes you look foolish.

It's YOUR MAGA CULT conspiracy theories that make you a FOOL.

I'd ask for YOUR EVIDENCE for your outlandish claims, but we all KNOW YOU HAVE NONE.

ONLY an OPINION piece from the TABLOID RAG NYP. LMAO

Edited January 2, 2024 by robosmith

[Guest]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

What timing is "suspicious"?

The election that is pending. Rushing to get things pushed through, understanding what they're doing is incredibly time sensitive. Its incredibly suspect, for punishing someone "solely" on the crime committed, vs the stopping momentum, and growing base by the minute despite this.

Doesn't help when you have the president publicly state that his rival cannot be allowed to win.

Read between the lines.

[Nationalist]

19 minutes ago, robosmith said:

It's YOUR MAGA CULT conspiracy theories that make you a FOOL.

I'd ask for YOUR EVIDENCE for your outlandish claims, but we all KNOW YOU HAVE NONE.

ONLY an OPINION piece from the TABLOID RAG NYP. LMAO

Hmm...

I think you should list these theories. Go ahead. 

[robosmith]

7 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

The election that is pending. Rushing to get things pushed through, understanding what they're doing is incredibly time sensitive. Its incredibly suspect, for punishing someone "solely" on the crime committed, vs the stopping momentum, and growing base by the minute despite this.

Doesn't help when you have the president publicly state that his rival cannot be allowed to win.

Read between the lines.

Quote (with link) what was actually said. "Read between the lines" is just bullshit.

Don't you think that the voters should know if they're voting for a felon BEFORE they cast their vote?

Maybe you're not aware, but electing Trump has the potential of aiding his ESCAPE FROM JUSTICE cause as POTUS he CAN order the DoJ to drop any charges during his appeals. There is also the POTENTIAL of delaying state charges for 4 more years, vastly increasing the likelihood THEY will be dropped, as well. 

 

[robosmith]

3 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Hmm...

I think you should list these theories. Go ahead. 

Here ya go: List of conspiracy theories promoted by Donald Trump

Also more

[Guest]

Just now, robosmith said:

Don't you think that the voters should know if they're voting for a felon BEFORE they cast their vote?

If the charges are legit, vs timed deliberately to derail a campaign, then sure--hit him with all you have.

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

but electing Trump has the potential of aiding his ESCAPE FROM JUSTICE

No s***.

Making his charges look suspicious or timed deliberately, fan the flames of his victim hood. He wanted to be pictured with handcuffs, as this plays into this.

The more urgency, and desperation shown. His avoiding debates, yet growing in popularity. This only puts more pressure on the left.

More people would want to vote for him due to this. Start believing him, vs the legitimate charges filed against him. Same way many believed the election was stolen, until evidence proved otherwise.

Much more, if your constituents feel disillusioned based on the performance of the sitting president.

7 minutes ago, robosmith said:

"Read between the lines" is just bullshit.

Suit yourself, if you need things spelled out for you.

[robosmith]

10 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

If the charges are legit, vs timed deliberately to derail a campaign, then sure--hit him with all you have.

That's what's happening. The charges were deliberately timed for AFTER the minions were convicted in order to BUILD THE CASE. AKA DoJ SOP.

10 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

No s***.

Making his charges look suspicious or timed deliberately, fan the flames of his victim hood. He wanted to be pictured with handcuffs, as this plays into this.

The more urgency, and desperation shown. His avoiding debates, yet growing in popularity. This only puts more pressure on the left.

More people would want to vote for him due to this. Start believing him, vs the legitimate charges filed against him. Same way many believed the election was stolen, until evidence proved otherwise.

Much more, if your constituents feel disillusioned based on the performance of the sitting president.

His popularity is only significantly growing among the MAGA CULT.

Bidenonmics is just starting to kick into high gear, cause infrastructure spending takes TIME.

10 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Suit yourself, if you need things spelled out for you.

I need you to stop pretending things you can't quote were actually said.

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, robosmith said:

I need you to stop pretending things you can't quote were actually said.

"If Trump wasn't running, I'm not sure I'd be running" - Biden (forget trying to right the ship, and help his constituents).

"We cannot let him win." - Biden

19 minutes ago, robosmith said:

MAGA CULT

AKA Americans disillusioned with those who otherwise represent them. MAGA Cult is just you being lazy, and unwilling to admit that people who are American may look past the drama, and want Trump based on policy.

[robosmith]

14 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

"If Trump wasn't running, I'm not sure I'd be running" - Biden (forget trying to right the ship, and help his constituents).

"We cannot let him win." - Biden

^This is nothing new. Biden said Trump was the reason he was running in 2020. 

Even you acknowledge the singular danger that Trump poses to democracy.

Opposing Trump IS helping his constituents escape the "dictator" wanna be.

14 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

AKA Americans disillusioned with those who otherwise represent them. MAGA Cult is just you being lazy, and unwilling to admit that people who are American may look past the drama, and want Trump based on policy.

No, it a valid description of EVERYONE who trusts the pathological LIAR.

Of course being Canadian, you're not familiar with Trump's history like many US citizens are.

His skirting, if not violating, US laws goes back decades.