Trump insists he intends to strip millions of citizens from Health Care and revoke the ACA (Obamacare)

[robosmith]

6 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

On what they are told to believe?

Notice how people get shut down for asking questions?

Science and medicine is all about asking questions. Why is that? Because they aren't up to date? 

So is the entire globe out of date? The vast majority of the countries here, have gender as a binary. Many who treat gender dysphoria, understand that it is a mental disorder. Meaning, it is imperative as a medical practitioner that objective care is provided to patients.

I will side with those who objectively ask questions, as being far more knowledgeable, than people parroting what they are told.

No, on the research. You really don't know how science works, do you?

Ever read a peer reviewed scientific journal?

6 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

You can't even briefly explain the point you're trying to make from the documentary (showcasing your total lack of understanding of its content), and want me to waste my time watching it because you told me to.

I already TOLD YOU what's in it. Did you completely miss that?

In a nutshell brain and body development are sometimes UNSYNCHRONIZED.

And biology is highly diverse, cause reproduction is not perfect.

6 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

You have presented me with zero reason nor incentive to doing so. "Washing away ignorance", to me sounds like brainwashing. Meaning, I probably would turn it off the moment I felt the message was parroting BS.

You are just guessing cause you fail to examine the evidence.

6 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

*probably* the main reason you're afraid of elaborating on its content.

I have elaborated on the content MANY TIMES over the years. It is tedious esp when talking to lazy people like yourself who aren't really interested in updating their knowledge.

6 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Facts can't be facts only if you approve of them. Thats opinion. 

Yes, it's my opinion that people like yourself are not up to date on the science. But it's based on the evidence YOU PROVIDE HERE.

6 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Many "specialists" feel there are unlimited genders and ideology should be taught to kids. 

True experts dispute that this is harmful, as kids of certain ages only see the world in black and white. There should be an age minimum.

Cite? I agree that "True experts dispute that this is harmful." Maybe being harmful is your position.

6 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Activists, silence any dissenting voices via bullying, which is why doctors who voice concern, are forced to do so anonymously.

This isn't progress, nor is it science. Certainly isn't medicine.

Where we will always fundamentally disagree, is the starting point. There are two genders. 

And you won't even try to understand the science cause your mind is made up. AKA, your cognitive dissonance is impenetrable.

6 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

You have yet to articulate otherwise, other than pointing to a video which means you have no clue what you're talking about, or you would have refuted my point with your arguments. Not your Google or YouTube wisdom.

No, it means I understand the video and won't bend over backwards to cure your IGNORANCE.

You just keep on demonstrating that you don't care about FACTS which might reveal the truth.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

updating their knowledge

There are two genders. Once the global standard changes, I will jump on board.

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Yes, it's my opinion

Exactly. So, its meaningless. 

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Maybe being harmful

No, a doctor should be able to make objective decisions free of pressures, socially.

Like you said. Research, to truly determine the root cause of of an issue.

There are thousands of lawsuits in the UK for a reason.

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

try to understand

There are two genders. Trying to get me to believe that gender is endless, yet nobody can quantify how many, is hogwash. 

Keeping things vague, yet pushing them so firmly on kids, winds up confusing many.

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

cure

I don't think its a starting point to tell me there are more than two genders. Also, you refuting my opinion with better facts, vs a link, sort of puts you in a better position to call me lazy.

 

[eyeball]

On 12/21/2023 at 4:47 AM, Nationalist said:

Reagan didn't dismantle the middle class and most unions need to be gutted. Starting with today's teachers' unions.

What came first, the middle class or unions?

[Michael Hardner]

22 minutes ago, eyeball said:

What came first, the middle class or unions?

Also - be sure to ask about Police unions whenever you discuss labour with anti-union types.  You'll see a little whaff of smoke emanating from their ears after a few minutes.  Police Unions saw massive salary increases over the decades. 

They'll tell you it's because they're under constant danger, as shown in TV shows... but try to tell them that fishing is a more dangerous job.... go ahead... try....

[robosmith]

37 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

There are two genders. Once the global standard changes, I will jump on board.

Exactly. So, its meaningless. 

No, a doctor should be able to make objective decisions free of pressures, socially.

Like you said. Research, to truly determine the root cause of of an issue.

There are thousands of lawsuits in the UK for a reason.

There are two genders. Trying to get me to believe that gender is endless, yet nobody can quantify how many, is hogwash. 

Keeping things vague, yet pushing them so firmly on kids, winds up confusing many.

I don't think its a starting point to tell me there are more than two genders. Also, you refuting my opinion with better facts, vs a link, sort of puts you in a better position to call me lazy.

 

If you want to have a legitimate conversation, stop editing my quotes. Otherwise, you're being completely dishonest. ?

[Guest]

26 minutes ago, robosmith said:

quotes

How am I editing your quotes? I am quoting words you typed.

[robosmith]

15 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

How am I editing your quotes? I am quoting words you typed.

Don't play dumb. Or act, if you're not playing....

 

[herbie]

On 12/20/2023 at 7:18 PM, Aristides said:

On 12/20/2023 at 6:23 PM, Hodad said:

Do you mean before Reagan and the supply-siders gutted unions and dismantled the middle class?

You forgot doubling the debt and closing mental institutions and dumping the residents on the street.

and ending federal funding for abortions, so only the poor were denied them... and a generation later, what happened?

On 12/21/2023 at 4:47 AM, Nationalist said:

Reagan didn't dismantle the middle class and most unions need to be gutted. Starting with today's teachers' unions.

Wouldn't want them kids to learn more than how to push the buttons and make the machines go. And it must've been that communist bogeyman who dismantled unions and began the decline of the middle class. [/s] (obviously)

I mean when you go whole hog on an idea like Free Trade and then give your own companies loopholes and tax breaks to give worker pink slips and move their own production to the 3rd world things get pretty obvious. As does shifting the bulk of taxes collected onto the backs of the workers at the same time.

 

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

What came first, the middle class or unions?

What's that got to do with it? Union's today are out of control and need to reigned back.

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

and ending federal funding for abortions, so only the poor were denied them... and a generation later, what happened?

Wouldn't want them kids to learn more than how to push the buttons and make the machines go. And it must've been that communist bogeyman who dismantled unions and began the decline of the middle class. [/s] (obviously)

I mean when you go whole hog on an idea like Free Trade and then give your own companies loopholes and tax breaks to give worker pink slips and move their own production to the 3rd world things get pretty obvious. As does shifting the bulk of taxes collected onto the backs of the workers at the same time.

 

You never fail to post drivel.

At least ur good at something.

[Guest]

4 hours ago, robosmith said:

dumb

Is believing there are more than two genders.

[Caswell Thomas]

On 12/19/2023 at 6:44 PM, Perspektiv said:

America is already seen as a joke around a significant portion of the globe. I don't think Trump will make much of a difference in this. 

How many wars were fought with Trump in office?

A war can only be declared by Congress, not a President. There are many conflicts that absent this rule, would be called Wars, including during Trumps administration. 

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

What's that got to do with it? Union's today are out of control and need to reigned back.

They said fishermen were out of control once, almost if we'd been unleashed or something, like there was no government to tell us what to do at all. It still managed to dial us right out of existence toot suite though. 

So like Michael asked would you include police unions with all this reigning in as well? And what about unions associated with all the resource companies you'd unleash?

In any case I'm pretty sure you'd be inclined to unleash police too because chances are resource companies will need a few heads cracked along the way during the unleashing and I doubt they'll be unionized heads. 

Interestingly enough there was a lot of mismanaged unleashed resource extraction associated with dialling back fishermen, it was even more effective than cracking heads.

Fishing was probably the most financially dangerous job too. Unless you were a Pattison or a Galen.

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

What's that got to do with it? Union's today are out of control and need to reigned back.

So they need to be canceled? LMAO

I thought you MAGA CULT were all about freedom.

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Is believing there are more than two genders.

What would you call it if your genitalia are different from the gender of your brain?

Probably you'd call it impossible cause you're that IGNORANT.

[robosmith]

On 12/19/2023 at 6:44 PM, Perspektiv said:

America is already seen as a joke around a significant portion of the globe. I don't think Trump will make much of a difference in this. 

IF ^this is true, it's because of Trump. Maybe you missed the Baby Trump flying around London.

On 12/19/2023 at 6:44 PM, Perspektiv said:

How many wars were fought with Trump in office?

Several. Syria for one. Afghanistan for another. We also had troops in Iraq. And Trump claimed to destroy ISIS.

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

You never fail to post drivel.

At least ur good at something.

Where as you're not good for anything except gratuitous INSULTS.

[Guest]

6 hours ago, robosmith said:

What would you call it if your genitalia are different from the gender of your brain?

Gender identity disorder.

Renamed Gender dysphoria after 2013, in hopes to remove social stigma. A mental disorder, nonetheless.

7 hours ago, robosmith said:

it's because of Trump

Even before Trump. The world over, has not respected the United States, which is why you're seeing a changing of the guard, so to speak regarding world order. China has been building this for quite a while before Trump, fortifying its global influence in places like Africa, the middle east via heavy handed infrastructure projects, etc.

The high murder rates, homelessness, drug use and overdose, many places being soft on crime and seeing massive amounts of it, pushing major retailers to close businesses, then having the nerve to tell other countries how they should operate, when their own is a mess.

7 hours ago, robosmith said:

Maybe you missed the Baby Trump flying around London

People don't like Trump, but many in the world don't respect Americans. The perception of Americans, isn't a good one, globally. The perception of Biden however, is far more favorable than that for Trump, but Trump is horrible/pathetic with PR, so this shouldn't come as a surprise.

7 hours ago, robosmith said:

Several.

Were these wars inherited, or started while Trump was in office? The world was about as peaceful as it had ever been, with Trump was in office. Feel free to dispute this, by showing the high volume of new wars that were started with Trump in office. 

[Nationalist]

11 hours ago, eyeball said:

They said fishermen were out of control once, almost if we'd been unleashed or something, like there was no government to tell us what to do at all. It still managed to dial us right out of existence toot suite though. 

So like Michael asked would you include police unions with all this reigning in as well? And what about unions associated with all the resource companies you'd unleash?

In any case I'm pretty sure you'd be inclined to unleash police too because chances are resource companies will need a few heads cracked along the way during the unleashing and I doubt they'll be unionized heads. 

Interestingly enough there was a lot of mismanaged unleashed resource extraction associated with dialling back fishermen, it was even more effective than cracking heads.

Fishing was probably the most financially dangerous job too. Unless you were a Pattison or a Galen.

All unions need to be treated equally. They get outta hand, they get reigned in.

You assume a lot here. But socialists regularly assume dumb crap then claim their assumption is the gospel. Then...the assumption falls apart.

[Nationalist]

9 hours ago, robosmith said:

So they need to be canceled? LMAO

I thought you MAGA CULT were all about freedom.

I didn't say canceled. I said reigned in. But once again...you have to lie in order to make a point.

9 hours ago, robosmith said:

Where as you're not good for anything except gratuitous INSULTS.

And sensing the truth of things. Don't forget that.

[herbie]

Oh so removing the choice from poor inner city women reduced the number of single moms and children with less opportunity?

Oh wait I'm speaking to one of those who insist a black kid born to a single Mom on welfare in the inner city has exactly the same opportunity as a white billionaire's kid born in Cape Cod....
and a scab at that.

[robosmith]

On 12/23/2023 at 7:57 AM, Perspektiv said:

Gender identity disorder.

Renamed Gender dysphoria after 2013, in hopes to remove social stigma. A mental disorder, nonetheless.

 

Your OPINION of the reason is IRRELEVANT. The FACT is "disorder" was removed because it's NO LONGER CONSIDERED TO BE a disorder by PROFESSIONALS, which you ARE NOT.

And since you fail to inform yourself, I've done your research for you AGAIN:

Sexual Differentiation of the Human Brain in Relation to Gender-Identity, Sexual Orientation, and Neuropsychiatric Disorders

Quote

During the intrauterine period, a testosterone surge in boys masculinizes the fetal brain, whereas the absence of such a surge in girls results in a feminine brain. Since sexual differentiation of the genitals takes place much earlier in intrauterine life than sexual differentiation of the human brain, these two processes can be influenced independently of each other. Gender identity (the conviction of belonging to the male or female gender), sexual orientation (hetero-, homo-, or bisexuality), pedophilia, and the risks for neuropsychiatric disorders are programmed into our brain during early development. There is no proof that postnatal social environment has any crucial effect on gender identity or sexual orientation. We discuss the relationships between structural and functional sex differences of various brain areas and the way they change along with changes in the supply of sex hormones on the one hand and sex differences in behavior in health and disease on the other.

 

[robosmith]

On 12/23/2023 at 10:03 AM, Nationalist said:

I didn't say canceled. I said reigned in. But once again...you have to lie in order to make a point.

"Reigned in" is just canceled by degree. You don't even specify the difference IN YOUR MIND.

Unions negotiate contracts for the group and strike to get agreement, period. If you take that away, they are cancelled.

On 12/23/2023 at 10:03 AM, Nationalist said:

And sensing the truth of things. Don't forget that.

I've not forgotten that you imagine your ignorance is "truth."

[Nationalist]

10 hours ago, robosmith said:

"Reigned in" is just canceled by degree. You don't even specify the difference IN YOUR MIND.

Unions negotiate contracts for the group and strike to get agreement, period. If you take that away, they are cancelled.

I've not forgotten that you imagine your ignorance is "truth."

And does time keep proving me correct?

Why yes it does.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

And does time keep proving me correct?

Why yes it does.

Your record on interpreting US law is abysmal. Cause you FAILED (to go to) law school. Let alone practice law in the US.