Trump and allies plot revenge, Justice Department control in a second term

[Nationalist]

14 hours ago, robosmith said:

Dunning & Kruger are on to your SCAM.

Because my posts provide that kick to your butt. Thanks for admitting how great it works.

Lol...you should let your friends read this stuff. It's priceless.

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...you should let your friends read this stuff. It's priceless.

It's a public board and several of my friends read it now.

They are impressed by your intellectual bankruptcy. Not.

[CdnFox]

20 hours ago, robosmith said:

Dunning-Kruger in action. Thanks for demonstrating that research valid AGAIN.

OH NOOOOOES!!!! It's the return of "dunning kruger" !!! LOL!   We haven't heard you say that for a while, for a week there virtually everything was dunning-kruger this and  Dunning-Kruger  that and PP is too Dunning-Kruger  and my breakfast was ok but a little Dunning-Kruger   it was your favorite    

Nice to see a blast from the past like that  

[Aristides]

Trump should be more concerned with staying out of jail than getting revenge.

[CdnFox]

39 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Trump should be more concerned with staying out of jail than getting revenge.

They probably both require the same thing - winning the next election.

[Caswell Thomas]

On 11/9/2023 at 6:44 PM, CdnFox said:

Sounds like the bidens too to be honest

Capone made one mistake - he didn't become president   So he coudlnt' pardon himself or get someone to do it for him.

If trump delays his trials till after the election, things get interesting.

Ah, but the Courts have already Saud that they are not delaying these criminal court trials in every instance and it only takes one felony conviction to keep him off the ballot for many, even a lot of disillusioned Republicans. You can see that already in previously staunchly conservative publications. Guilty Trumpty's  Wall has cracks in it, we already knew it had crackpots.

 

 

[CdnFox]

16 minutes ago, Caswell Thomas said:

Ah, but the Courts have already Saud that they are not delaying these criminal court trials in every instance and it only takes one felony conviction to keep him off the ballot for many, even a lot of disillusioned Republicans. You can see that already in previously staunchly conservative publications. Guilty Trumpty's  Wall has cracks in it, we already knew it had crackpots

Pretty much all of that is inaccurate.

They have an excellent change of delaying all of them till after the election.

And no, you can still run for president with a conviction. The only thing they're trying to argue that would be different is if he took part in an 'insurrection' on jan 6 and honestly - that is a brutally hard thing to prove.

[Caswell Thomas]

21 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Pretty much all of that is inaccurate.

They have an excellent change of delaying all of them till after the election.

And no, you can still run for president with a conviction. The only thing they're trying to argue that would be different is if he took part in an 'insurrection' on jan 6 and honestly - that is a brutally hard thing to prove.

Seems to me that the GOP is losing key parts of its voting base due to social  issues which even Conservative voters now seem to be supporting rather than rejecting. Virginia proved that, Kentucky even proved it by keeping a Democrat in the Governors seat instead of turning the seat Red as Trump claimed would happen. 

[CdnFox]

26 minutes ago, Caswell Thomas said:

Seems to me that the GOP is losing key parts of its voting base due to social  issues which even Conservative voters now seem to be supporting rather than rejecting. Virginia proved that, Kentucky even proved it by keeping a Democrat in the Governors seat instead of turning the seat Red as Trump claimed would happen. 

Possibly.  but Biden wasn't in either of those races  

And polling suggests that he's got one hell of a problem - and trump is relatively popular.

Now we'll see what happens. In his first campaign trump talked a lot of crazy till he got the nomination, then toned down his message for a broader base and was successful.

If he does that here against biden that may very well be very effective.  The problem is biden CANNOT appear in public. He looks horrible, he can't remember his lines, he comes across as a dottering old fool.  He has to stay in his basement which is how he won the last one. 

But without covid this time trump will be able to get out and about, and if he sells a strong positive message and biden isn't out there countering it...

[Caswell Thomas]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Possibly.  but Biden wasn't in either of those races  

And polling suggests that he's got one hell of a problem - and trump is relatively popular.

Now we'll see what happens. In his first campaign trump talked a lot of crazy till he got the nomination, then toned down his message for a broader base and was successful.

If he does that here against biden that may very well be very effective.  The problem is biden CANNOT appear in public. He looks horrible, he can't remember his lines, he comes across as a dottering old fool.  He has to stay in his basement which is how he won the last one. 

But without covid this time trump will be able to get out and about, and if he sells a strong positive message and biden isn't out there countering it...

Don't count on the absence of Covid, regrettably its a disease likely to be with us a long time. New variants show up every.few months because the virus is mutating. My fear ( and that of many medical people) is that it will find another level that will hit as hard, or worse, that the first one did.  and Biden DOES appear in Public and on the tv regularly. My concern is that all of our senior leaders are too old, we should be training 50 year olds for their jobs, half of them are one step away from a stroke or heart attack from the extreme pressures they are under defending this country. 

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Caswell Thomas said:

Don't count on the absence of Covid, regrettably its a disease likely to be with us a long time. New variants show up every.few months because the virus is mutating.

Covid is done and people are done with it.  And this is normal.  Spanish flu is still technically around in modern variations and people still die from it - nobody cares.  IN canada people are done  with it - in the states thats 10 times the case.

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My fear ( and that of many medical people) is that it will find another level that will hit as hard, or worse, that the first one did. 

Nope.  Never happens.

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and Biden DOES appear in Public and on the tv regularly.

And it goes very badly for him frequently. THere's tonnes of jokes and clips of it. He's out of the public eye more often than not and when he is in the public eye it's in very very strictly controlled conditions.

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My concern is that all of our senior leaders are too old, we should be training 50 year olds for their jobs, half of them are one step away from a stroke or heart attack from the extreme pressures they are under defending this country. 

That's a valid concern.

The way the american system is structured you will tend to get a lot more older people as the leaders, it's very hard for a younger person to pull it off. Obama was considered very young and he was 50.

Our canadian system is much more open to younger people, it's not uncommon at all to see those in their 40's run.   Pierre polievre is 44 right now - he'll still be in his 40's when he beats justin's butt.  Justin himself has been in power 7 years and is just 51 this year. Harper was 46 i believe.

The canadian system is very different but the US system really pushes far older candidates.

[reason10]

On 11/10/2023 at 9:05 PM, Aristides said:

 

The country that preached to the world it was the cradle of democracy is in the process of showing the world how to destroy it.

Agreed. The 2020 election showed the DEATH of Democracy.

[Caswell Thomas]

21 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Covid is done and people are done with it.  And this is normal.  Spanish flu is still technically around in modern variations and people still die from it - nobody cares.  IN canada people are done  with it - in the states thats 10 times the case.

Nope.  Never happens.

And it goes very badly for him frequently. THere's tonnes of jokes and clips of it. He's out of the public eye more often than not and when he is in the public eye it's in very very strictly controlled conditions.

That's a valid concern.

The way the american system is structured you will tend to get a lot more older people as the leaders, it's very hard for a younger person to pull it off. Obama was considered very young and he was 50.

Our canadian system is much more open to younger people, it's not uncommon at all to see those in their 40's run.   Pierre polievre is 44 right now - he'll still be in his 40's when he beats justin's butt.  Justin himself has been in power 7 years and is just 51 this year. Harper was 46 i believe.

The canadian system is very different but the US system really pushes far older candidates.

Yes, I recall my grandmother speaking about it. She was Quebecois. Met my grandfather in Maine , he was a steel worker working on a bridge close to the border with Quebec.  The family came from one of the first ten families to colonize at Batiscan. 

[Deluge]

On 11/10/2023 at 10:57 AM, robosmith said:

Don't need no "weaponization" when there is a PLETHORA of EVIDENCE against Trump. Duh

Of course you'll never hear about that on FOS LIES. Just as well; we don't want the CULT to get riled up and vote.

Of course there's weaponization. You degenerates are trying to use the law to coverup your attacks on a political opponent. 

The Left doesn't want Trump running for president again, and they will do ANYTHING to keep him out of the White House. If gross misuse of the legal system won't work, then, well, there's always something else, right hypocrites?  

[CdnFox]

On 11/13/2023 at 2:09 PM, Caswell Thomas said:

Yes, I recall my grandmother speaking about it. She was Quebecois. Met my grandfather in Maine , he was a steel worker working on a bridge close to the border with Quebec.  The family came from one of the first ten families to colonize at Batiscan. 

Quite the lineage.

[robosmith]

Trump Isn’t Merely Unhinged

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With apologies to a certain newspaper’s slogan, many of Donald Trump’s most dangerous statements hide in the plain light of day.

The problem is not that they don’t get reported on—they do—but even so, they are easy to tune out, perhaps because he’s been saying outlandish things for so long that people simply can’t bring themselves to parse the new ones; or perhaps because they’ve become accustomed, or at least numb, to his utterances; or perhaps because they don’t want to let him occupy their headspace; or perhaps because he got kicked off Twitter (now X) and they had no interest in joining Truth Social. Or maybe it’s because the more sinister material gets mixed up with his strange elocutions (“We’re gonna have a great country—it’s gonna be called the United States of America”), contrarian hot takes (“You know, Hezbollah is very smart. They’re all very smart”), and gibberish (“All of these indictments that you see—I was never indicted. Practically never heard the word. It wasn’t a word that registered”).

Whatever the case may be, Trump has continued to make plainly dangerous and stunning remarks. Notwithstanding his rival Governor Ron DeSantis’s recent claim that Trump has “lost the zip on his fastball,” the former president continues to produce substantive ideas—which is not to say they are wise or prudent, but they are certainly more than gibberish. In fact, much of what Trump is discussing is un-American, not merely in the sense of being antithetical to some imagined national set of mores, but in that his ideas contravene basic principles of the Constitution or other bedrock bases of American government.

They are the sorts of ideas that would have been shocking to hear from any mainstream politician just a decade ago. And yet, today, Trump—arguably the single most influential figure in the United States—says these things, and they hardly register. 

 

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Trump Isn’t Merely Unhinged

 

Translation -  "we know he usually says a lot of crap and it's easy to tune it out but we think he might be serious about going after the people who went after him if he gets elected and I'm really scared!!!"

Yeah. Very possibly true.  i don't think he intends to let this one go.

[Nationalist]

On 11/12/2023 at 7:51 PM, Caswell Thomas said:

Don't count on the absence of Covid, regrettably its a disease likely to be with us a long time. New variants show up every.few months because the virus is mutating. My fear ( and that of many medical people) is that it will find another level that will hit as hard, or worse, that the first one did. 

ROFLMO!

OH THE RONA WILL COME BACK!

AHHH...WE ALL GONNA DIIIEEE!!!

Pfft...so transparent. Reality check. Libbies will find it much more difficult to cheat in 2024.

Edited November 19, 2023 by Nationalist

[robosmith]

Voters must take Trump seriously and literally. The stakes are that high.

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Trump may be a performance artist, but with his shocking provocations, he is telling us what he would do in a second term as president. That’s why taking him seriously and literally is required.

The headline on the cover of the latest issue of the Economist magazine does not mince words: “Donald Trump poses the biggest danger to the world in 2024.” The alarm is twofold. First, that the former president could win the election next November; and second, what he might do if that happens.

Presidential elections are often about many things. In 2024, the economy will be a factor for most voters. For many, immigration will be another. Abortion, too, will continue to be a motivator. President Biden’s record certainly will be a consideration, as will the incumbent’s age and perceptions of his capacity to lead the nation for another four years, until he is 86
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But the Economist puts the focus where it needs to be, which is on the former president — what he did during his first term, including what he did to help provoke the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol, and, most important, how much farther out he has gone rhetorically and substantively since then to preview what a second term might portend.

The Economist summed up why a Trump victory in 2024 could be materially different from his first in 2016. “A second Trump term would be a watershed in a way the first was not,” the editors wrote. “Victory would confirm his most destructive instincts about power. His plans would encounter less resistance. And because America will have voted him in while knowing the worst, its moral authority would decline.”

Trump has spoken openly about a second term as a time of retribution, when he would weaponize the Justice Department to go after his opponents. The Washington Post recently reported that he has identified individuals he would target for investigation, including a number who served in his administration. Among those cited in the article were former White House chief of staff John Kelly, former attorney general William P. Barr and former chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. Mark A. Milley. He has also talked about going after Biden and his family.

Whatever his campaign advisers say in a statement, Trump himself is not running away from some of what was written about a possible second term. In an interview on Univision a few days after The Post story said Trump might use the Justice Department to go after opponents, the former president confirmed that yes, he might well do that if he gets back into office.

Trump’s rhetoric has become more extreme; it is language associated with authoritarian leaders of the past. The latest and most provocative came during a Veterans Day speech in New Hampshire, when he said this: “We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical-left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections.”

Those words quickly echoed across the country and beyond, reported by news organizations and replayed again and again on cable television. Should what he said be taken neither literally nor seriously, or has a Rubicon been crossed that, with an upcoming election, requires that he be taken both literally and seriously? 

 

[CdnFox]

55 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Voters must take Trump seriously and literally. The stakes are that high.

 

Translation -  "OH MY GOD LOOK AT THE POLLS!!! HE COULD WIN AGAIN!!!" What the hell do we doooo? Quick, scare people! SCARE PEOPLE GODDAMIT, I want them peeing themselves by noon!!!"

 

[Caswell Thomas]

On 11/22/2023 at 2:27 PM, CdnFox said:

Translation -  "OH MY GOD LOOK AT THE POLLS!!! HE COULD WIN AGAIN!!!" What the hell do we doooo? Quick, scare people! SCARE PEOPLE GODDAMIT, I want them peeing themselves by noon!!!"

 

Actual translation: ( Putin HQ Secret Police), " oh look, we have the Americans thinking our Agent is running again for President! Actually its for Puppet Dictator and his followers..eh! as long as they pay his expenses let them think he cares, we know who his real friends are". 

[Nationalist]

5 hours ago, Caswell Thomas said:

Actual translation: ( Putin HQ Secret Police), " oh look, we have the Americans thinking our Agent is running again for President! Actually its for Puppet Dictator and his followers..eh! as long as they pay his expenses let them think he cares, we know who his real friends are". 

Lol..."AHHH!!! TRUMP PUTIN...TRUMP PUTIN...AHHH!!! WE ALL GONNA DIIIEEE!!!"

Pathetic.

[robosmith]

6 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Lol..."AHHH!!! TRUMP PUTIN...TRUMP PUTIN...AHHH!!! WE ALL GONNA DIIIEEE!!!"

Pathetic.

I guess FOS LIES does not report it when Putin says on national TV that he wanted Trump to win, nor when Trump said he believes Putin's denial of responsibility OVER his own national intelligence assessments.

You are the pathetic one ^here.

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

I guess FOS LIES does not report it when Putin says on national TV that he wanted Trump to win, nor when Trump said he believes Putin's denial of responsibility OVER his own national intelligence assessments.

You are the pathetic one ^here.

Why does it matter who Putin wanted to win?

If you wanna be mad, be mad at Podesta. He's the twit who gave the hackers his password.

[robosmith]

27 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Why does it matter who Putin wanted to win?

Same reason it matters that Trump accepted Putin's denial of responsibility over US intelligence agencies.

It shows they were working together and Trump is Putin's b1tch making excuses for Russian interference. Duh

27 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

If you wanna be mad, be mad at Podesta. He's the twit who gave the hackers his password.

Lots of people fall for phishing attacks. They're still illegal. Are you going to defend Russian phishing attacks, too?