Does Canada's government and people respect human life as they should?

[blackbird]

This is a fair question in view of the widespread abortions in Canada and the legalization of medical assistance in dying.  It also helps explain the widespread crime and insecurity many Canadians feel in their own country.  The subject of respect for human life touches on everything.

This video from the First Baptist Church in Dallas on the Sixth Commandment of the Ten Commandments explains why human life should be respected and preserved.  Human life is sacred.  One reason is because God created man in his own image.

The Sixth Commandment - Preserve Life - Pathway to Victory (ptv.org) 

One of the very first commandments that God gave was:

"6  Whoso sheddeth man’s blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man. "  Genesis 9:6 KJV

Dr. Jeffress points out the reason for this commandment.  Human life is so valuable that anyone who takes it wrongly shall have his life taken.

An example of the dysfunction in Canada is a man was found guilty of murder for putting poison in a little child's cereal which resulted in the death of the child.  His punishment was ostensibly a life sentence which meant 17 years in prison and then possible parole.

Dr. Jeffress explains why life should be preserved.  When human life is devalued, society pays in various ways.  Believe it or not, capital punishment for murder is for the purpose of preserving life.  To abolish it means devaluing human life.

Not only does this subject require faith on God but in Jesus Christ and his written revelation, the Bible, but we are taught to carry the fire.  Dr. Jeffress explains what that means. That is how Canada will have a just society.  It must follow the principles taught in the Holy Scripture.  Without that, all a nation has is human reasoning to guide itself.  We can see where that has led us.  It is turning the country into a dysfunctional society where people have little hope and more crime and corruption.

 

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[CdnFox]

to answer that you have to define what you mean by life.

Cattle? they're alive.  But we kill them all the time.

So do you mean human life.  Great - define that.  When does that start and end?

The problem is if you genuinely don't believe that human life starts until the human leaves the birth canal, then you're not disrespecting life to destroy that tissue before then.

If you genuinely believe life begins at conception - then yeah we've got a problem, we're slaughtering children. 

The people i've spoken with who agree abortion should be legal at all (usually with limits) all believe that it's not a human within those limits and believe it is outside of them and should be protected.

So your question SHOULD be .... Does Canada's government and people DEFINE human life as they should?

[CdnFox]

Oh - and a brief reminder - your imaginary friend there supposedly wiped out entire cities for being too frisky and slaughtered the first born of people who he found inconvenient so maybe keep that guy out of the conversation. If god exists he's very clearly not qualified to talk about 'respecting life'.

[blackbird]

It should be mentioned that God once had a beautiful angel in heaven named Lucifer.  Lucifer thought he could be like God or replace God.  So he was kicked out of heaven along with one third of the angels that followed him.  See Isaiah ch14 in the Old Testament about this.  The only Bible that has a true account of this fall is the King James Bible.

That is when Lucifer became Satan and the angels that followed him are demons.

Satan has a huge influence over the earth and mankind for the time being.  

Mankind generally follows him and is working to build a new world order.

"3  For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4  And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables."  2 Timothy 4:3 KJV  That is the times we are living in now.

There is a way out of this Satanic trap.  That is through believing the gospel, i.e. believe in Jesus Christ and what he did for us and you personally.  See John 3:16 KJV

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[CdnFox]

28 minutes ago, blackbird said:

It should be mentioned that God once had a beautiful angel in heaven named Lucifer. 

Who... despite living in literal paradise, got so sick of god's shit that he decided it would be better to risk it all and be banished rather than put up with it a second longer.

Yeah - i think we all know that feeling.

If you can't make your argument with reason and logic, if you have to get your imaginary friend involved, then you don't have an argument.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

There is a way out of this Satanic trap.  That is through believing the gospel, i.e. believe in Jesus Christ and what he did for us and you personally. 

His Dad can't just snappeth His fingers and reset things?

[blackbird]

7 hours ago, eyeball said:

His Dad can't just snappeth His fingers and reset things?

That is not how God has chosen to operate.  He chose not to create robots, but rather gave man free will to choose the good or evil, heaven or hell, God or Satan, life or death.  It's your choice. 

He has given us his written word or revelation, in English, the King James Bible, that explains it all and exhorts us to make the right choice.  The world is an evil place and life is a struggle for many people.  But there is hope for a better future with joy and happiness if one will take the time to study it and believe in Jesus Christ.  That is why it is often called the good news.  Don't let the Devil lie to you to keep you in darkness with no hope.  There is victory available.

"10  The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding. 11  For by me thy days shall be multiplied, and the years of thy life shall be increased. 12  If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: but if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it."  Proverb 9:10 KJV 

 

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[Guest]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

That is not how God has chosen to operate.  He chose not to create robots, but rather gave man free will to choose the good or evil, heaven or hell, God or Satan, life or death.  It's your choice.

If God gave man free will, how come so many of those who purport to believe in and worship God seek to so go against its wishes by denying free will to anyone who doesn't do as they want them to do?

Do they know better?

[blackbird]

3 hours ago, bcsapper said:

If God gave man free will, how come so many of those who purport to believe in and worship God seek to so go against its wishes by denying free will to anyone who doesn't do as they want them to do?

Do they know better?

I am just trying to figure out exactly what you mean and having a little difficulty.  Perhaps you could be more specific.  If you are saying believers are denying free will to people, I would have to know in what way you mean.  Seems to me there is a lot of freedom in this country now for people to do a lot of things.  There are some things that there should be laws against because evil should not be supported by government.  If you mean freedom to kill unborn babies, I do not think anyone should have the freedom to do that.   Of course free will does not mean everyone should be free to do evil things.

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[blackbird]

4 hours ago, bcsapper said:

If God gave man free will, how come so many of those who purport to believe in and worship God seek to so go against its wishes by denying free will to anyone who doesn't do as they want them to do?

Do they know better?

Everyone has free will.   If you are talking about individual rights that is a little different subject.

We do have basic fundamental rights such as freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of association, etc., but all those basic rights have limits on them too.  Basic rights are not unlimited.

  That is not the same thing as free will.  You have free will in the sense you are free to believe what you wish.  But you also have responsibilities that go with that.  If you believe the wrong things and make the wrong choices in life, there are consequences.

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[ExFlyer]

11 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Everyone has free will.   If you are talking about individual rights that is a little different subject.

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So, your question "Does Canada's government and people respect human life as they should?" is moot as best and stupid as usual..

As you say "Everyone has free will"   LOL

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[Guest]

13 minutes ago, blackbird said:

I am just trying to figure out exactly what you mean and having a little difficulty.  Perhaps you could be more specific.  If you are saying believers are denying free will to people, I would have to know in what way you mean.  Seems to me there is a lot of freedom in this country now for people to do a lot of things.  There are some things that there should be laws against because evil should not be supported by government.  If you mean freedom to kill unborn babies, I do not think anyone should have the freedom to do that.   Of course free will does not mean everyone should be free to do evil things.

The freedom to have an abortion is one thing, sure.  Your definition of evil is different from mine when it comes to abortion.  Then there's the freedom to have a relationship with and/or marry whomever one wants.  Or the freedom to end one's life whenever one wants.  I seem to remember you speaking out against blasphemy.  What about the freedom to say whatever one wants? 

And I didn't say "believers are denying free will to people", I said they were seeking to do so.  Thankfully secular society still allows many of those freedoms.

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Everyone has free will.   If you are talking about individual rights that is a little different subject.

We do have basic fundamental rights such as freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of association, etc., but all those basic rights have limits on them too.  Basic rights are not unlimited.

  That is not the same thing as free will.  You have free will in the sense you are free to believe what you wish.  But you also have responsibilities that go with that.  If you believe the wrong things and make the wrong choices in life, there are consequences.

I'm afraid that's just nonsense.

[blackbird]

4 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

I'm afraid that's just nonsense.

 

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1  Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. {ungodly: or, wicked} 2  But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. 3  And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper. {wither: Heb. fade} 

4  The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away. 5  Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous. 6  For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish. "

Psalm 1 KJV
 

7 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Your definition of evil is different from mine

You right about that.  We have totally opposite views.

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[ExFlyer]

19 minutes ago, blackbird said:

 

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You right about that.  We have totally opposite views.

As you have with most people LOL

[Guest]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

 

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1  Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. {ungodly: or, wicked}

 

In other words, blessed is the man that doesn't try and tell other people what to do.

That's what I said.  Me and your God seem to agree on that.

How come you don't?

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, blackbird said:

 

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1  Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. {ungodly: or, wicked}

Yes, but you're forgetting Cdnfox 7 vs 9 which just as clearly says " Stupid is the man who substituteth religion for reason, scripture for science, and bibles for brains.  Woe be unto him, for surely the messager of the gods shall appear and smite him mightily, see if he doesn't. "

Hi. Got this note from god for you? - says you're an !diot. Consider yourself smoten.

[TreeBeard]

11 hours ago, blackbird said:

He chose not to create robots, but rather gave man free will to choose the good or evil, heaven or hell, God or Satan, life or death.  It's your choice. 

Satan knows God exists but chose to rebel. There is nothing about freewill that would prevent humans from not worshipping, opposing or rebelling against God.  
 

On 11/5/2023 at 4:53 PM, blackbird said:

This is a fair question in view of the widespread abortions in Canada and the legalization of medical assistance in dying. 

God ordered Jews in the ancient world to kill gay people.  Why wasn’t he pro life then?  

[blackbird]

13 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

God ordered Jews in the ancient world to kill gay people.  Why wasn’t he pro life then?  

Only lawful authorities could issue the death penalty even in ancient times in the Old Testament.

I already answered that question before.  

Does the Bible require the death penalty for homosexuality? | GotQuestions.org

Edited November 7, 2023 by blackbird

[TreeBeard]

2 hours ago, blackbird said:

Only lawful authorities could issue the death penalty even in ancient times in the Old Testament.

I already already answered that question before.  

Does the Bible require the death penalty for homosexuality? | GotQuestions.org

I didn’t say it was required now, but it certainly used to be a requirement.  Until God changed His mind about it. 

[August1991]

On 11/5/2023 at 7:53 PM, blackbird said:

This is a fair question in view of the widespread abortions in Canada and the legalization of medical assistance in dying.  It also helps explain the widespread crime and insecurity many Canadians feel in their own country.  The subject of respect for human life touches on everything.

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We Canadians in general get along, few die - in abortions or otherwise,

Even with our MAiD (better known as MAD = Medically Asissted Death), we live longer. 

Go figure.

[blackbird]

8 hours ago, August1991 said:

We Canadians in general get along, few die - in abortions or otherwise,

Even with our MAiD (better known as MAD = Medically Asissted Death), we live longer. 

Go figure.

That is simply not true.  The number of abortions in Canada is:

Annual Abortion Totals by Year
2020      2019        2018       2017        2016       2015         2014        2013          2012         2011
91,155    83,576    85,294    94,030    97,764    100,104    100,194    102,446    100,958    108,844

These are infinitely valuable human beings.  Remember "every child matters" that we see on the orange shirts.

Canada needs every unborn child as well to help contribute to our country's social services and our Old Age Pension for everyone when they retire.  That is why we are bringing in half a million immigrants per year.  To try to keep our pensions and everything else going.  However, that is just one practical reason for protecting human life.  The bottom line is human life is sacred.  We are created in the image of God.

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More Canadians are ending their lives with a medically-assisted death, says the third federal annual report on medical assistance in dying (MAID). Data shows that 10,064 people died in 2021(opens in a new tab) with medical aid, an increase of 32 per cent over 2020.

The report says that 3.3 per cent of all deaths in Canada in 2021 were assisted deaths. On a provincial level, the rate was higher in provinces such as Quebec, at 4.7 per cent, and British Columbia, at 4.8 per cent.

“It is rising remarkably fast," University of Toronto law professor Trudo Lemmens, who was a member of the Council of Canadian Academies Expert Panel on Medical Assistance in Dying, wrote in an email to CTV News. He noted that some regions in the country have quickly matched or surpassed rates in Belgium and the Netherlands, where the practice has been in place for over two decades.   unquote

Medical assistance in dying given to 10K Canadians in 2021 | CTV News

The number of deaths by MAID in 2022 is much higher that previous years, possibly over 13,000.  It will be much higher this year and then next year they are loosening the criteria so the figures will be even high from 2024 on.

This has nothing to do with how Canadians "get along" or the fact that advances in medicine, etc. increase the lifespan for many people.  This is a descent into darkness, barbarism, heathenism, and decadence of society in general.  It is a tragic decline of Judeo-Christian values and loss of respect for human life.

 

 

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[TreeBeard]

2 hours ago, blackbird said:

These are infinitely valuable human beings. 

How many children have you adopted or fostered over the years?