The Dems' Long and Current Ties to Terrorist Orgs and Ant-Semitism

[CdnFox]

40 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Sometimes three are really subtle clues, like a pack of rabid torch-bearing Trump supporters marching around shouting "Jews will not replace us!" Or other nuanced stuff, like endorsements from and dining engagements with half of the ADL watch list. Calling 3/4 of the Jews in this country anti-semitic turncoats.  It's the little things...

Sometimes it's not sublte at all like when an actual democratic politician talks about how it's "all about the benjamins" or the like.

[Caswell Thomas]

11 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Are you honestly trying to deny that the KKK functioned as a Dem militia? 

P1 of a Google search:

There's absolutely no doubt about the fact the KKK and the Dems were two peas in a pod.

They might not have had a formal contract/constitution drawn up together and filed at a county courthouse somewhere, but they were absolutely partners in their early attacks on blacks and their violent attempts to prevent blacks from voting and gaining other civil rights. 

It's impossible for you to have grown up in the US and still not be aware of that unless you live within a propaganda bubble. 

I do not consider Google to be a valid source of research, but since you insist on using it, note that it reports that the current KKK is composed of white supremacists organized within radical far right militant groups. They are obviously not Democrats. 

[Nationalist]

21 minutes ago, Caswell Thomas said:

I do not consider Google to be a valid source of research

Now there's a dumb statement. 

22 minutes ago, Caswell Thomas said:

note that it reports that the current KKK is composed of white supremacists organized within radical far right militant groups. They are obviously not Democrat

Also note that it reports which US political party started it...supported it...and created the environment for perpetuating and growing economic slavery.

[WestCanMan]

13 hours ago, Caswell Thomas said:

I do not consider Google to be a valid source of research,

Google doesn't write those articles, stupid. Are you kidding me right now?

Quote

but since you insist on using it, note that it reports that the current KKK is composed of white supremacists organized within radical far right militant groups. They are obviously not Democrats. 

They are organized with radical groups, and saying 'left or right' is neither here nor there. It's a red herring. 

The Dems were known to be allied with the KKK, they pretended to just suddenly distance themselves, and they're allied with BLM and Antifa now. Militias are their thing, it's what they've always done. The Dems still push racial division at every turn. 

[Caswell Thomas]

18 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Now there's a dumb statement. 

Also note that it reports which US political party started it...supported it...and created the environment for perpetuating and growing economic slavery.

Are you thinking the old kkk  and the newer version are the same membership? They clearly are not. 

[Caswell Thomas]

5 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Google doesn't write those articles, stupid. Are you kidding me right now?

They are organized with radical groups, and saying 'left or right' is neither here nor there. It's a red herring. 

The Dems were known to be allied with the KKK, they pretended to just suddenly distance themselves, and they're allied with BLM and Antifa now. Militias are their thing, it's what they've always done. The Dems still push racial division at every turn. 

The Dems are as much allied with ANTIFA organizations as the mainstream conservative Republicans are with the Nazi party. Because Trump has lumped everyone he hates ( which seems to grow more lately with exp Trump leaders and  followers)  into these groups claiming they are one in the same.  Years ago when I marched with OCCUPY Orange County California ( which was in the City of Irvine which has multiple major corporate HQ's within its city borders) . In that march we had 1353 members some were Dems, some were Independents and some were Republicans. In the first march that took those able to carry signs for blocks without stopping to rest, some if he remained behind to guard our 12 tent camp, our signage, chairs, etc. I was too old to march and likewise 7 others, three of us disabled veteran's, the others mixed politics. Rand Paul sent his own group, all dressed in dark.purple and black colors, who claimed to the police ( who were on hand every day inasmuch as we were, by city council.permission,camped on City Halls from lawn), that they were in charge and wanted to " keep charge of the donations box against theft" ( quote of the police lieutenant) , and when denied, were caught vandalizing multiple cars including the Mayors own car, smashing windows and throwing OCCUPY signs in in their back seats , were "caught and tried to claim next they were hired by the Democrat National Party".  Mr. Paul was told to remove his vandals, and they were gone the next day, then came back a day later and let the air out of twenty parking lot cars in the wrong parking lot, making 22 city service workers very unhappy. OCCUPY re-pumped their tires and got them home.  My point in mentioning this is that SOME Republican fringe far right fanatics painted a bad face on a lot of innocent Republicans that day in their bid to disrupt OCCUPY. The news media gave Rand Paul a chance to explain but he refused to comment.  I'd say Rand Paul attitude formed it's own Militia. I happen to know they still are organized and are quite a bit more militant then they used to be and as far right in their racist views as you can get. 

 

 

 

[Nationalist]

47 minutes ago, Caswell Thomas said:

Are you thinking the old kkk  and the newer version are the same membership? They clearly are not. 

the old kkk vs. the newer version?

you clearly are shallow. what the hell do you think? that the kkk somehow changed their core beliefs? that fact is, the Dems and the kkk grew up together. were the same team...if you will.

Tell me...do you really think Hilary-Billary or Brandon have changed their core beliefs?

Do you remember this?

 

Ya...that's Good Ol' Joe...what a man.

Ya wanna find out how the ghettos got created? How the inner cities became such an ugly place to be? Check out Johnson's "Great America" actions. That began an unavoidable decent to financial dependence and moral decay that is now beating down the doors of anything they like...and you're ilk excuse them.

You're Thmart...

Edited November 2, 2023 by Nationalist

[Caswell Thomas]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

the old kkk vs. the newer version?

you clearly are shallow. what the hell do you think? that the kkk somehow changed their core beliefs? that fact is, the Dems and the kkk grew up together. were the same team...if you will.

Tell me...do you really think Hilary-Billary or Brandon have changed their core beliefs?

Do you remember this?

 

Ya...that's Good Ol' Joe...what a man.

Ya wanna find out how the ghettos got created? How the inner cities became such an ugly place to be? Check out Johnson's "Great America" actions. That began an unavoidable decent to financial dependence and moral decay that is now beating down the doors of anything they like...and you're ilk excuse them.

You're Thmart...

You really had to dig that far back...over 40 YEARS to find something to complain about?  How distressing for you. 

[Nationalist]

7 hours ago, Caswell Thomas said:

You really had to dig that far back...over 40 YEARS to find something to complain about?  How distressing for you. 

Do you even think before you post?

The new kkk...such weak and incredibly dumb comments can only be the work of a child...or a cornered Libbie. 

[CdnFox]

12 hours ago, Caswell Thomas said:

You really had to dig that far back...over 40 YEARS to find something to complain about?  How distressing for you. 

You think 40 years is a long time? How old are you?

The very fact that this was your attempt at a dismissal demonstrates that you know there's validity to it.

[WestCanMan]

17 hours ago, Nationalist said:

the old kkk vs. the newer version?

I don't even know where he's going with that. I stopped reading his post for obvious reasons.

I don't know if he was trying to say the KKK was cool when they were with the Dems, or if he thinks that they did a reversal of course just like the Dems theoretically did and now they're a swell bunch of guys, I just don't care what he says because I know that it's going to be stupid or false. 

The name "Caswell Thomas" sounds like a relic, and gives the impression that he's older, I think we're dealing with someone who's 12 at most. 

[Nationalist]

26 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I don't even know where he's going with that. I stopped reading his post for obvious reasons.

I don't know if he was trying to say the KKK was cool when they were with the Dems, or if he thinks that they did a reversal of course just like the Dems theoretically did and now they're a swell bunch of guys, I just don't care what he says because I know that it's going to be stupid or false. 

The name "Caswell Thomas" sounds like a relic, and gives the impression that he's older, I think we're dealing with someone who's 12 at most. 

The Democt Party has sold a massive lie to the public. They claimed to leave their racist platform for a compassionate one. Unfortunately results tell a completely different story.

You're having trouble finding good work? That's fine. It's the white man's fault. Here's free money. You're 16 and pregnant? That's fine. Here's money to support you and you baby. The father of your baby is gone? That's fine. He was jailed by the white man. Here's even more money...and don't forget to hate the white man. It's all his fault. Also don't forget us at election time. Remember...the Republicans are the white man and they want you to work for a living. The incensitive monsters.

The genius of this is only surpassed by the insidiousness.

Edited November 3, 2023 by Nationalist

[CdnFox]

29 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

The name "Caswell Thomas" sounds like a relic, and gives the impression that he's older, I think we're dealing with someone who's 12 at most. 

Hey - 12 could be really old depending on how long years are on whatever planet he's from.  You can't assume like that

[Caswell Thomas]

11 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Do you even think before you post?

The new kkk...such weak and incredibly dumb comments can only be the work of a child...or a cornered Libbie. 

Do you actually do anything here but troll and pick fights? Is this what the GOP has become? My father must be turning to his old lunch pal and saying " I told you Richard this would happen if you didn't control those c so called Young Republicans, they'll be the death of our Party yet". ". My father would then drive out through the gates of the old western White House and go back to Whittier and then drop his friend off at his home, where he and his wife Pat lived.

[Caswell Thomas]

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

You think 40 years is a long time? How old are you?

The very fact that this was your attempt at a dismissal demonstrates that you know there's validity to it.

I don't see any validity. As to your other comment, surely you can count? I believe I previously mentioned I was in the Vietnam Draft. 

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, Caswell Thomas said:

I don't see any validity. As to your other comment, surely you can count? I believe I previously mentioned I was in the Vietnam Draft. 

OF course you don't - you don't see anything at all unless it supports your narrative. That's becoming fairly clear.

As to your age, no i don't remember that.  Frankly i find most of your posts forgettable. 

[Caswell Thomas]

14 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

OF course you don't - you don't see anything at all unless it supports your narrative. That's becoming fairly clear.

As to your age, no i don't remember that.  Frankly i find most of your posts forgettable. 

Ah yes, well that's in keeping with my thoughts of all.of your commentary that reflects MAGA rhetoric. Only a fool would allow a con man to con them twice in the same way but that is the way Trump is again campaigning , just like in 2016. The same tired old lines, but this time with a new addition, he can't lie about what any campaign donations are actually used for, given to,  or for whose personal benefit they will be used. 

[eyeball]

6 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I don't know if he was trying to say the KKK was cool when they were with the Dems, or if he thinks that they did a reversal of course just like the Dems theoretically did and now they're a swell bunch of guys...

The bloc of old Democrat voters you're talking about followed George Wallace off a cliff but never went back to the Democrats. They made up the bulk of angry populists who found themselves drawn to the Ross Perots and Jesse Venturas, then the Tea Partiers and finally Trump's Maga Cult.

A swell bunch for sure. They look good on the right. Lol!

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Caswell Thomas said:

Ah yes, well that's in keeping with my thoughts of all.of your commentary that reflects MAGA rhetoric. Only a fool would allow a con man to con them twice in the same way but that is the way Trump is again campaigning , just like in 2016. The same tired old lines, but this time with a new addition, he can't lie about what any campaign donations are actually used for, given to,  or for whose personal benefit they will be used. 

LOL - triggered leftie is triggered

Anyone who disagrees is 'maga'

[Caswell Thomas]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

LOL - triggered leftie is triggered

Anyone who disagrees is 'maga'

Not a Dem...INDEPENDENT.  

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, Caswell Thomas said:

Do you actually do anything here but troll and pick fights? Is this what the GOP has become? My father must be turning to his old lunch pal and saying " I told you Richard this would happen if you didn't control those c so called Young Republicans, they'll be the death of our Party yet". ". My father would then drive out through the gates of the old western White House and go back to Whittier and then drop his friend off at his home, where he and his wife Pat lived.

Who cares? Look...whoever you think you are...the kkk was a stalwart of the Democrat Party. Then the Democrats realized they held an untenable position. This was the mid 50s. They made a plan. It involved vastly expanding welfare and softening moral fiber. Why? 'cause if you can't hate them openly, the next best thing is to befriend them and introduce rot to their society.

You can squirm and excuse all you like. But as they say...actions speak louder than words...and results happen to be the final word.

[Hodad]

13 hours ago, Nationalist said:

The Democt Party has sold a massive lie to the public. They claimed to leave their racist platform for a compassionate one. Unfortunately results tell a completely different story.

You're having trouble finding good work? That's fine. It's the white man's fault. Here's free money. You're 16 and pregnant? That's fine. Here's money to support you and you baby. The father of your baby is gone? That's fine. He was jailed by the white man. Here's even more money...and don't forget to hate the white man. It's all his fault. Also don't forget us at election time. Remember...the Republicans are the white man and they want you to work for a living. The incensitive monsters.

The genius of this is only surpassed by the insidiousness.

Of all the ridiculous alternative reality shit conservatives convince themselves of, this is near the top.?

Sure, Blacks break heavily Democrat because of the secret plot to feed hungry children. Not because Republicans have been on the wrong side of every civil rights issue for the last 50 years. Not because they sent Strom Thurmond to the Senate into this century. Not because they gerrymander Black districts into irrelevance or force Black voters to wait in line hours to vote. Not because they cozy up to white nationalists and wave confederate flags at rallies to save the statues of confederate "heroes." And on and on. None of that stuff. Definitely not the decades of persistent--and sometimes open--hostility. They've just been tricked by feeding hungry children.

 

Edited November 4, 2023 by Hodad

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Hodad said:

Of all the ridiculous alternative reality shit conservatives convince themselves of, this is near the top.?

Sure, Blacks break heavily Democrat because of the secret plot to feed hungry children. Not because Republicans have been on the wrong side of every civil rights issue for the last 50 years. Not because they sent Strom Thurmond to the Senate into this century. Not because they gerrymander Black districts into irrelevance or force Black voters to wait in line hours to vote. Not because they cozy up to white nationalists and wave confederate flags at rallies to save the statues of confederate "heroes." And on and on. None of that stuff. Definitely not the decades of persistent--and sometimes open--hostility. They've just been tricked by feeding hungry children.

 

Talk about delusions.

Obama specifically intended to create an 'intersectional coalition'. That's not 'conspiracy' talk, that was their stated strategy.  And it was all about pushing race and scaring so called 'marginalized' groups and frightening them about what the evil republicans would do. (none of which actually happened when the republicans were in).  The dems did nothing for black people or anyone else - which is why the coalition fell apart on him.  "yes we can" became "No we didn't."

Many black communities push the dems because the dems lie to them and sell them on the idea that THEY really care about them and THEY"LL really do something for them and if they had a son, he'd look like Treyvon Martin

But it's just smoke and mirrors. THe dems don't actually do a thing to make black lives better or any other marginalized lives better.

You have to be seven different kinds of stupid to believe it's got anything at all to do with 'feeding hungry children'.

[Nationalist]

7 hours ago, Hodad said:

Of all the ridiculous alternative reality shit conservatives convince themselves of, this is near the top.?

Sure, Blacks break heavily Democrat because of the secret plot to feed hungry children. Not because Republicans have been on the wrong side of every civil rights issue for the last 50 years. Not because they sent Strom Thurmond to the Senate into this century. Not because they gerrymander Black districts into irrelevance or force Black voters to wait in line hours to vote. Not because they cozy up to white nationalists and wave confederate flags at rallies to save the statues of confederate "heroes." And on and on. None of that stuff. Definitely not the decades of persistent--and sometimes open--hostility. They've just been tricked by feeding hungry children.

 

The results speak for themselves sonny, and the Democrat results are abhorrent.

The Democrats don't feed hungry children. The tax payer does. And too many twits don't even have the brians to ask the important question; why are these children going hungry? You Libbies don't solve problems...you create them.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/11/01/donald-trump-african-american-black-economic-progress-vote-column/6081310002/

Results are the final word on effort. Results show the true intent.!

[Hodad]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

The results speak for themselves sonny, and the Democrat results are abhorrent.

The Democrats don't feed hungry children. The tax payer does. And too many twits don't even have the brians to ask the important question; why are these children going hungry? You Libbies don't solve problems...you create them.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/11/01/donald-trump-african-american-black-economic-progress-vote-column/6081310002/

Results are the final word on effort. Results show the true intent.!

^^ this is what thinking people call a specious argument. If you want to claim that Trump did something specific for Black Americans, you're welcome to try. But the facts don't support it. Yes, Black unemployment was low, but not relatively better and through no action on the part of Trump. Just as he didn't change the economic trajectory, he didn't change the employment trajectory and didn't change the black employment gap. 

I've demonstrated this for you before with economic data, but that apparently didn't stick, so let me give you an easy metaphor. Imagine the economy as a long train. It's big, and heavy and takes a long time to change speed. Blacks have, for a litany of reasons, been largely pushed to the back of the bus--their economic progress generally tracks the whole economy, but always lags by about the same amount. 

Now, this train had been accelerating at a slow, steady rate during engineer Obama's shift. At shift change, engineer Trump took over. The train continued accelerating at the exact same rate. Nothing really changed. 

Then engineer Trump gets on the intercom and starts broadcasting to the passengers about how fast they're going, how awesome he is, and how Black people have made so much progress down the track! How he's done more for Black people than anyone except maybe engineer Lincoln. 

Again, yes it's true that the train continued to accelerate at the same rate. Yes, black people are further down the track. But he didn't do anything specifically for Blacks AND they are still lagging--still at the back of the train with the same gap to the front. No relative change.

How much credit do you think Black people should give that specific engineer? Did he really do anything for them?

And then a few hours later engineer Trump missed the warning signs and drove the whole damn train into Covid Canyon...

 

It was an empty, specious claim, meant to fool people who can't or won't look at economic data. You can be that person, or you can go check the facts for yourself.