Latest Abacus: HOLY SNIT - THE CPC ARE POLLING AT 40% and PP's APPROVAL IS IN THE GREEN!

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

At this point, It might be a better strategy for Pierre to drop in the polls a bit so that Justin isn't shoved out.

The thought occurs.

They can't really shove justin out of course - they can pressure and beg and whine and even threaten to be mean to him if he sticks it out and loses etc. but there's no actual mechanism to legitimately FORCE him out. And he's surrounded himself with loyalists.

I think the problem for the libs is they don't have anyone waiting in the wings who'd be better. Especially not one who'd be willing to run. Carney MIGHT have a chance if he were willing but the rest of them are all going to have to wear what trudeau did and it's HARD to clean house and run a solid campain in less than 2 years, and that's what we'd be talking about.

And anyone who runs has to know - if you lose you're gone.  SO whos going to want to go right now?

[CdnFox]

8 hours ago, eyeball said:

So it'll be no more pronouns, climate change, inflation, corruption etc?  PP will make everything right as rain?

 

I think it's safe to say the situation with inflation and corruption will improve radically    I'm sure that'll honk you off

I doubt we'll be talking about pronouns as much.  ANd as for climate change, i think (but am just guessing) that we'll see more adaptation and less useless taxation.

The hatred and anger in teh country will likely die down a little without trudeau to push it anymore.

[PIK]

28 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The thought occurs.

They can't really shove justin out of course - they can pressure and beg and whine and even threaten to be mean to him if he sticks it out and loses etc. but there's no actual mechanism to legitimately FORCE him out. And he's surrounded himself with loyalists.

I think the problem for the libs is they don't have anyone waiting in the wings who'd be better. Especially not one who'd be willing to run. Carney MIGHT have a chance if he were willing but the rest of them are all going to have to wear what trudeau did and it's HARD to clean house and run a solid campain in less than 2 years, and that's what we'd be talking about.

And anyone who runs has to know - if you lose you're gone.  SO whos going to want to go right now?

Singh?

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, PIK said:

Singh?

LOL  

Amusingly tho he is a factor - singh should know he 's GOT to pull the plug before the next fixed election date. If he doesn't he WILL be seen as just an ndp lap boy.

SO if justin steps down - there's NO guarantee that singh will keep the deal until the next election. He could find some reason to throw it next year after the new leader has won the leadership race but before s/he's had time to prepare. Find some pretense that makes the libs look bad and get the cpc to agree and go to the polls saying 'canadians can't stand one more minute of this liberal gong show ruining their lives' and hope for the best.

 

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I think it's safe to say the situation with inflation and corruption will improve radically

How will Poilievre radically improve the situation with corruption?

I'd probably vote for radical improvement but I suspect radical means something pretty lame coming from someone who says truthfulness doesn't matter in Poilievre's case.

[Moonlight Graham]

13 hours ago, eyeball said:

Conversely, though a Conservative majority is the most preferred choice, it is also the most feared one. When presented with the same options and asked to evaluate which one would be worst for the country, more than two-in-five (43%) say a Conservative majority. A similar number (38%) believe a Liberal majority would be the worst possible government Canada could have over the next four years.

https://angusreid.org/trudeau-poilievre-best-prime-minister-liberals-conservatives-approval/

You have to be some kind of dum-dum to not fear a Liberal majority over a CPC majority.  JT's run has been pretty terrible, maybe even historically terrible.  Harper's run wasn't so bad at all until he got cookoo with power toward the end.

People are living on the streets and folks are worried about what PP will do with pronouns and Canada's GHG emissions which JT has done so little about it's hilarious, not to mention that Canada's GHG is a drop in the bucket and going to be higher per capita than most because of having the most spread-out population on the freaking planet.

The only thing good anyone can say Trudeau has done in 8 years is rally about women's rights because he's a horn-dog that wants to grab 50% of the vote, and the dope-heads will hurrah legalized pot.  The accomplishments of a crooked frat boy.

[ExFlyer]

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

LOL aww bud ... i'm sure the libs will be popular again some day, and there's a reasonable chance you'll still be alive when it happens so hang in there  

Don't much care and care even less 2+ years away for election but hey, if it gives you an erection, enjoy it LOL

[CdnFox]

12 hours ago, eyeball said:

How will Poilievre radically improve the situation with corruption?

 

By not being corrupt.  Of course - he runs the very real chance of alienating liberal supporters doing that.

 

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I'd probably vote for radical improvement but I suspect radical means something pretty lame coming from someone who says truthfulness doesn't matter in Poilievre's case.

Which nobody said. So once again you feel the need to lie to prop up your position    Which means you're probably lying about voting for an anti corruption platform.

But we knew that.  You actively support corruption and spend most of your time here defending it.  So. There you go

 

Liberals have a bad habit of accusing others of their own crimes hoping it will deflect. Liberals are corrupt. Liberal party mp's are frequently caught being corrupt. The liberal prime minister has been caught being corrupt. The liberal voters support this corruption despite having been informed of it.  Liberals are, by their nature, corrupt.

But it's all the conservatives fault because they don't do enough to stop corruption     ROFLMAO!!!!! If we took away the rigth of liberal supporters to vote corruption would vanish overnight

[CdnFox]

18 hours ago, PIK said:

Time for the NDP to strike. See if Singh has the gonads to bring him down.

He does not.  In fact - the ndp is about to launch attack ads against....  PP.  Not the libs or justin.

Jaggers is nothing more than Justin's boy in the house. He is just another liberal minister. He'll wait till the last minute and try to stab justin in the back and claim he's not a liberal lackey but i doubt anyone will buy it. The ndp is currently bleeding to the cpc same as the libs are

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Don't much care and care even less 2+ years away for election but hey, if it gives you an erection, enjoy it LOL

ROFLMAO!!!! Sure kid   We can tell how disinterested you are, people who couldn't care ALWAYS start thinking about sex

Pathetic.  I get that you don't want to see the liberals lose. Despite your obvious embarrasment at having supported justin previously, you still don't want to see the CPC win, and especially not win big.

But that is precisely what's going to happen. Canadians by the bucketload are realizing that the 'woke left' and liberal policy has again lead us to ruin as a country.  AGAIN.  Second time with this family alone.

And people are not just seeing pp as an alternative - but a good choice on his own. So he'll get in and things will get a lot better and the libearls will be wandering in the wilderness for at least 10 years.  And unlike harper, PP has charisma. So it might well be more like 14. 

Make peace with it.  And stop worrying about other men's hard ons.

[ExFlyer]

6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

ROFLMAO!!!! Sure kid   We can tell how disinterested you are, people who couldn't care ALWAYS start thinking about sex

Pathetic.  I get that you don't want to see the liberals lose. Despite your obvious embarrasment at having supported justin previously, you still don't want to see the CPC win, and especially not win big.

But that is precisely what's going to happen. Canadians by the bucketload are realizing that the 'woke left' and liberal policy has again lead us to ruin as a country.  AGAIN.  Second time with this family alone.

And people are not just seeing pp as an alternative - but a good choice on his own. So he'll get in and things will get a lot better and the libearls will be wandering in the wilderness for at least 10 years.  And unlike harper, PP has charisma. So it might well be more like 14. 

Make peace with it.  And stop worrying about other men's hard ons.

Here you go again LOL

[CdnFox]

37 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Here you go again LOL

Laughing at your childishness?  Absolutely, erection-boy

[WestCanMan]

22 hours ago, PIK said:

Time for the NDP to strike. See if Singh has the gonads to bring him down.

What's Singh gonna say after his last few years in the Sycophant #1 position? "Your sperm is too salty"?

I think that the NDP and greens would become obsolete if the Libs got a new leader instead of Trudeau. 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

What's Singh gonna say after his last few years in the Sycophant #1 position? "Your sperm is too salty"?

I think that the NDP and greens would become obsolete if the Libs got a new leader instead of Trudeau. 

Historically in these coalitions - whether they're coalitions or non coalition coalitions - the junior partner does very badly in the next election.  I think what we'll probably see if things continue as they are is very very low voter turn out for the libs and dips among their remaining loyal voter base. I suspect that what little voter turnout there is will be split and the CPC will tend to win the ridings.  USUALLY liberal voters who are disgusted with the lib party will split between ndp and conservative but in this case i think the libs won't go ndp, they'll just stay home.

This has the makings of a true blue wave, similar to what we saw when mulroney won. Too soon to say by far but it's certainly shaping up like that.

[Canadian_Cavalier]

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