Rebound Posted September 3, 2023 Report Posted September 3, 2023 13 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Ok, anyone with a Canadian take also? I can see how Canadians might think that climate change could only be beneficial. Although, sadly, this summer’s fires tell us otherwise. Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
herbie Posted September 3, 2023 Report Posted September 3, 2023 14 hours ago, CdnFox said: The problem is 90 percent of the working class want nothing to do with running the country. In that you're entirely correct. Yet they sure want to let it be known that everything's the other 10%'s fault.... Even at the everyday work level, they don't want to go to the union meeting cuz Mork & Mindy was on TV... they got treated like shit by the Boss but didn't file a grievance because they "didn't like" the Shop Steward that they never showed up to pick let alone run for, they griped incessantly that the union just took their dues and did nothing for them, when they hadn't even told them about their complaint. Came home from work one election day there's my 21 yr old and all his buddies griping how weed was still illegal, told them the polls are open, you're all old enough to vote NDP, Liberal. Green- get going. They didn't. Next day they're all moaning Harper won... A democracy means you have the choice to DO something about things, but if you don't actively participate it's your own fault, not the peoples who did. Quote
impartialobserver Posted September 7, 2023 Report Posted September 7, 2023 On 9/2/2023 at 8:53 PM, CdnFox said: The problem is 90 percent of the working class want nothing to do with running the country. Somewhat related but this is the group that largely does not care about politics. Most politicos have this belief that everyone is as passionate and obsessed as they are. They can't fathom that not everybody comes home and immediately puts the cable news on and starts digesting political news and does so until 12 am or so. Quote
Deluge Posted September 7, 2023 Author Report Posted September 7, 2023 On 9/1/2023 at 12:17 PM, impartialobserver said: Yes, or at least they should have a working class background. I may have a Phd in economics but spent from ages 12 to 29 working on a ranch, restaurants, warehouses, manufacturing, and concrete. It should be people who understand and respect the Constitution. If you can't govern using the Constitution, then you need to get your ass back into the workforce or retirement. Quote
Deluge Posted September 7, 2023 Author Report Posted September 7, 2023 On 9/1/2023 at 1:36 PM, herbie said: What? That's kommunism and that's just inherently evil, right? They should be thankful we let them vote for the people we choose for them! Yeah, you stupid diaper dopers. How could you let your hive masters put an old, pedo-zombie like Joe Biden into the White House? Are you really that braindead? Quote
Deluge Posted September 7, 2023 Author Report Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) On 9/1/2023 at 11:43 PM, NYLefty said: In a Democracy no-One rules. But for your type that's a bit difficult to grasp. It makes sense, though. I live in a Constitutional Republic, not a commie loving democracy. Edited September 7, 2023 by Deluge Quote
The AntiGark Posted September 8, 2023 Report Posted September 8, 2023 On 9/1/2023 at 2:12 PM, Deluge said: Simple question, simple answer: If a simple answer is required, then no, the 'working class' should not, control 'society.' But they should believe they do. And, going by that, 'things' should be just fine; running along, as they were meant to; no problems. Here's another simple question: Does your mother know you're gay? 'cmon, yes, or no? And so we see simple questions preclude truth, as complex questions, mask it. And that 'tuning' the question begets better results. And the places this question would benefit from tuning are surrounded by ' '. WHO is 'the working class?' WHAT is, 'society.' If everyone that works is 'the working class,' that's one thing. If 'working class' refers the the 'country music crowd,' that's another. Do we live, in a 'society?' Does... an unimaginable mess qualify, as a society? If so, nobody runs it now, and that's for damn sure! So, somebody (anybody) taking the controls (if they exist) would be progress... yes? So the question, as put, reads: Should an undefined group of people control something that may not even exist? Quote
CdnFox Posted September 16, 2023 Report Posted September 16, 2023 On 9/8/2023 at 9:48 AM, The AntiGark said: If a simple answer is required, then no, the 'working class' should not, control 'society.' But they should believe they do. And, going by that, 'things' should be just fine; running along, as they were meant to; no problems. Here's another simple question: Does your mother know you're gay? 'cmon, yes, or no? And so we see simple questions preclude truth, as complex questions, mask it. And that 'tuning' the question begets better results. And the places this question would benefit from tuning are surrounded by ' '. WHO is 'the working class?' WHAT is, 'society.' If everyone that works is 'the working class,' that's one thing. If 'working class' refers the the 'country music crowd,' that's another. Do we live, in a 'society?' Does... an unimaginable mess qualify, as a society? If so, nobody runs it now, and that's for damn sure! So, somebody (anybody) taking the controls (if they exist) would be progress... yes? So the question, as put, reads: Should an undefined group of people control something that may not even exist? Hogwash. A question can be simple with simple answers and it does not preclude truth. Your problem was that you answered your own question by stipulating the only answers. What is 2+2? Simple question - but if i ONLY Let you answer 7 and 9 you're going to get it wrong. If i shut up and actually let you answer there's no reason why it can't be correct. So your answer reads "I'm not sure - but i'm not smart enough to actually put in my own variables and attempt an answer so i'll just throw out some bafflegab and demonstrate my lack of knowledge.". FFS - if your big problem is that you don't feel you have an adequate definition of working class then just answer the question and include your own definition that you're using for the purposes of the discussion. Or just ask 'how are you defining working class'? Yeash. Quote
The AntiGark Posted September 17, 2023 Report Posted September 17, 2023 On 9/16/2023 at 4:04 PM, CdnFox said: Hogwash. A question can be simple with simple answers and it does not preclude truth. Your problem was that you answered your own question by stipulating the only answers. What is 2+2? Simple question - but if i ONLY Let you answer 7 and 9 you're going to get it wrong. If i shut up and actually let you answer there's no reason why it can't be correct. So your answer reads "I'm not sure - but i'm not smart enough to actually put in my own variables and attempt an answer so i'll just throw out some bafflegab and demonstrate my lack of knowledge.". FFS - if your big problem is that you don't feel you have an adequate definition of working class then just answer the question and include your own definition that you're using for the purposes of the discussion. Or just ask 'how are you defining working class'? Yeash. Hmmm... only thing I get, here, is the yeash part. sober up, ok? Quote
CdnFox Posted September 26, 2023 Report Posted September 26, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 1:11 PM, The AntiGark said: So you just quote what i said and don't even bother with a reply? You know - if you have nothing to say you can just not say anything, you don't actually have to POST nothing. Quote
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