Still wanna trust wind power?

[reason10]

Here's the source material (for the reeetards here who bitccch about using memes)

https://edgarcountywatchdogs.com/2016/11/lake-land-college-blows-1017697-20-into-the-wind/

Lake Land College Blows $1,017,697.20 “Into the Wind”

Think electric cars are so superior. Fine. Charge them ONLY with wind or solar power. NO Fossil fuels. See how cheap they are to drive at that point.

The rest of us will tool by in our internal combustion air conditioned cars LAUGHING OUR ASSES OFF.

 

 

[Boges]

4 minutes ago, reason10 said:

Think electric cars are so superior. Fine. Charge them ONLY with wind or solar power. NO Fossil fuels. See how cheap they are to drive at that point.

The rest of us will tool by in our internal combustion air conditioned cars LAUGHING OUR ASSES OFF.

What about Nuclear, Natural Gas or Hydro electricity? 

But then again. 

https://www.irena.org/News/pressreleases/2023/Mar/Record-9-point-6-Percentage-Growth-in-Renewables-Achieved-Despite-Energy-Crisis

Quote

 

Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates, 21 March 2023 – By the end of 2022, global renewable generation capacity amounted to 3372 Gigawatt (GW), growing the stock of renewable power by a record 295 GW or by 9.6 per cent. An impressive 83 per cent of all power capacity added last year was produced by renewables.

Renewable Capacity Statistics 2023, released by the International Renewable Energy Agency (IRENA) shows that renewable energy continues to grow at record levels despite global uncertainties, confirming the downward trend of fossil fueled power generation.

 

 

[Deluge]

8 minutes ago, reason10 said:

Here's the source material (for the reeetards here who bitccch about using memes)

https://edgarcountywatchdogs.com/2016/11/lake-land-college-blows-1017697-20-into-the-wind/

Lake Land College Blows $1,017,697.20 “Into the Wind”

Think electric cars are so superior. Fine. Charge them ONLY with wind or solar power. NO Fossil fuels. See how cheap they are to drive at that point.

The rest of us will tool by in our internal combustion air conditioned cars LAUGHING OUR ASSES OFF.

 

 

Woketards don't like to hear about how important oil and nuclear power is to their energy scam. lol

[Boges]

Wind actually produces more electricity in the US than Hydro. 

https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/electricity/electricity-in-the-us.php#:~:text=Wind energy was the source,convert wind energy into electricity.

Quote

 

Wind energy was the source of about 10.2% of total U.S. utility-scale electricity generation and accounted for 47.6% of electricity generation from renewable sources in 2022. Wind turbines convert wind energy into electricity.

Hydropower plants produced about 6.2% of total U.S. utility-scale electricity generation and accounted for 28.7% of electricity generation from renewable sources in 2022.1 Hydropower plants use flowing water to spin a turbine connected to a generator.

 

10% is nothing to sneeze at with the infancy of the tech. 

It's much lower in Canada because Canada has ample Hydroelectricity in many populated regions. 

[Rebound]

America’s first new nuclear reactors in decades recently went online in Georgia, over $14 Billion over budget, which is double  the original estimate.  
 

Meanwhile, jackasses from Florida think a million dollar failure is a big deal.  When Mother Nature destroys a windmill, we don’t lose half a state for 200 years. 

Edited August 2, 2023 by Rebound

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, reason10 said:

Here's the source material (for the reeetards here who bitccch about using memes)

https://edgarcountywatchdogs.com/2016/11/lake-land-college-blows-1017697-20-into-the-wind/

Lake Land College Blows $1,017,697.20 “Into the Wind”

Think electric cars are so superior. Fine. Charge them ONLY with wind or solar power. NO Fossil fuels. See how cheap they are to drive at that point.

The rest of us will tool by in our internal combustion air conditioned cars LAUGHING OUR ASSES OFF.

Meanwhile for people who know what they're doing, wind turbines are a HUGE SUCCESS.

Powering England with the world's largest offshore wind farm

Quote

As you fly 200 miles north of London, along the coast, you can see the town of Grimsby below. 55 miles east of her port, you can't miss them. Elegant and a little erie, white giants poking out of the North Sea like something out of a science fiction novel. 

Hornsea Wind Farm

This is the largest crop of offshore wind turbines in the world - known as the Hornsea Wind Farm. It is hypnotizing. More than 300 turbines spread across 335 square miles generate enough electricity to help power more than 2 million homes a day. 

 

IOW, You're FOS, AGAIN.

[reason10]

America’s first new nuclear reactors in decades recently went online in Georgia, over $14 Billion over budget, which is double  the original estimate.  

Provide a credible link or admit you are making this up.

Meanwhile, jackasses from Florida think a million dollar failure is a big deal.  When Mother Nature destroys a windmill, we don’t lose half a state for 200 years. 

Provide a credible link or admit you are LIAR.

I mean,we all KNOW that you're a LIAR, but we're getting tired of keeping you busy by putting you in a round room and telling you to sit in the corner.

By the way BAT GUANO FOR BRAINS, I have a link.

https://blog.mirrorreview.com/nuclear-power-plants-in-florida/

Florida is regarded as one of the best states in the U.S. for various industries, thanks to its pro-business tax policies, competitive and affordable costs, and robust infrastructure. Even some unconventional industries like nuclear power industry have found home in Florida. There are numerous prerequisites to building a nuclear power plant—like government permissions, availability of water, etc.—and Florida fulfills all the conditions to become an ideal state for nuclear power plants. Nuclear power plants in Florida have emerged as important sources of energy in recent years. Here is the list of the top 5 nuclear power plants in Florida.

St. Lucie Nuclear Power Plant

Located on the Hutchinson Island Florida, St. Lucie nuclear power plant is a twin nuclear power station that has been powering millions of homes in South Florida over the past 45 years. The construction of the first unit began in July 1970 and the second one began in June 1977. Both the units were commissioned in December 1976 and August 1983 respectively. Both the units are combustion engineering pressurized water reactors (PWR) and are located in separate containment buildings.

Alongside power generation, the plant also provides numerous quality jobs for the community and contributes a significant amount to the local economy each year. The Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) extended the operating licenses of both the existing units by twenty years in 2003. The license will be valid till March 2036 and April 2043 for unit 1 and unit 2 respectively.

Turkey Point Nuclear Generating Station

The Turkey Point Nuclear Generating Station is a nuclear and gas-fired power plant located on Biscayne Bay, 24 miles from Miami near the Homestead area. Similar to St. Lucie, this plant also has two nuclear power units. Both the nuclear power plants in Florida began their operations in 1972 and 1973 respectively. These units are Westinghouse pressurized water reactors. The nuclear power plant generates about 1600 Megawatts of electricity which is enough to cater to the annual needs of more than 900,000 homes.

Gee! 900,000 homes. A THOUSAND of those faggy windmills couldn't power ONE home.

Crystal River Energy Complex

The Crystal River Energy Complex is located near the mouth of the Crystal River in Florida and comprises seven power generation plants spread across 4700 acres. The complex was developed in the early 1960s by the Florida Power Corporation. It was acquired by Progress Energy Inc. in 2000 and is currently owned by Duke Energy. Plant no.1, 2, 4, and 5 are fossil fuel plants whereas plant no.3 was the only nuclear power plant—which began its operations in 1977 and was closed in 2013.

The nuclear power plant in the complex has been out of service since 2009 due to cracks in the containment building concrete. Progress Energy tried do-it-yourself repairs to the building housing the reactor, however, it failed in doing so and the plant was officially shut down in February 2013.

The Offshore Power Systems and the Levy County Nuclear power plant are shut down.

So far, a couple of Florida nuclear power plants are powering Florida homes and cities as well as those of other states, while CaliFAGula's windmills are destroyed by lightning.

And you wonder why everybody says CalifAGula is one of the dumbest states in the union.

 

 

 

Edited August 2, 2023 by reason10

[reason10]

4 hours ago, Boges said:

What about Nuclear, Natural Gas or Hydro electricity? 

But then again. 

https://www.irena.org/News/pressreleases/2023/Mar/Record-9-point-6-Percentage-Growth-in-Renewables-Achieved-Despite-Energy-Crisis

 

Problem with nuclear energy is the Chicken Littles of the left, who have seen Jane Fonda's CHINA SYNDROME and assumed that was based on fact.

Natural Gas is a FOSSIL FUEL.  I'd LOVE to see natural gas gain in influence because I own stock in a gas company.

This thread is about those idi0tic windmills that liberals want us to give up our cars and air conditioners for.

If there is consistent heavy water flow (like on a man made dam) it would be insane not to tap that resource for hydroelectric power. It just requires man made dams, in certain parts of the country. Not a good idea in Florida.

Example: The Hoover Dike was created at the southern base of Lake Okeechobee after that one hurricane destroyed the levee and drowned about 2500 people back in 1928. It wouldn't be a wise idea to try to make that dike a hydroplant because the land here is too low. 

If you think the enviro Nazis here are sounding shrill, you should be here in Southest Florida when the Gulf Offshore Karenia Brevis algae plant dumps red tide along the coast and the local enviroNazis try to blame Big Sugar for the higher lake levels in  Okeechobee, (even though not ONE sugar cane farm comes anywhere near the lake.)

And ANOTHER item Florid handles better than the rest of the country is water management and flood control. The state sits atop a HUGE aquifer of fresh water, which ironically is where our drinking water comes from. Also the state is low in a lot of areas and flood control is a major chore. In a move that is less intelligent than a blue state third grade teacher, it seems that rain runoff originating in Lake Kissimmee (which is close to Orlando) somehow makes its way down the canals to Lake Okeechobee.

When Okeechobee gets too full (and there is too much pressure on the Hoover Dam) they open up the flood gates and release lake water east to the Indian River and West to the Caloosahatchie River. Ft. Myers whines and moans about brown water for about a month. (Imagine if they lived within 100 miles of the Mississippi.)

 

Edited August 2, 2023 by reason10

[Boges]

1 minute ago, reason10 said:

Problem with nuclear energy is the Chicken Littles of the left, who have seen Jane Fonda's CHINA SYNDROME and assumed that was based on fact.

Natural Gas is a FOSSIL FUEL.  I'd LOVE to see natural gas gain in influence because I own stock in a gas company.

This thread is about those idi0tic windmills that liberals want us to give up our cars and air conditioners for.

If there is consistent heavy water flow (like on a man made dam) it would be insane not to tap that resource for hydroelectric power. It just requires man made dams, in certain parts of the country. Not a good idea in Florida.

Example: The Hoover Dike was created at the southern base of Lake Okeechobee after that one hurricane destroyed the levee and drowned about 2500 people back in 1928. It wouldn't be a wise idea to try to make that dike a hydroplant because the land here is too low. 

If you think the enviro Nazis here are sounding shrill, you should be here in Southest Florida when the Gulf Offshore Karenia Brevis algae plant dumps red tide along the coast and the local enviroNazis try to blame Big Sugar for the higher lake levels in  Okeechobee, (even though not ONE sugar cane farm comes anywhere near the lake.)

About the ONLY item that Florida doesn't seem to be able to handle better than the rest of the country is water management. The state sits atop a HUGE aquifer of fresh water, which ironically is where our drinking water comes from. Also the state is low in a lot of areas and flood control is a major chore. In a move that is less intelligent than a blue state third grade teacher, it seems that rain runoff originating in Lake Kissimmee (which is close to Orlando) somehow makes its way down the canals to Lake Okeechobee.

When Okeechobee gets too full (and there is too much pressure on the Hoover Dam) they open up the flood gates and release lake water east to the Indian River and West to the Caloosahatchie River. Ft. Myers whines and moans about brown water for about a month. (Imagine if they lived within 100 miles of the Mississippi.)

You didn't preface your thread by how Florida should power itself. Florida does have lots of Solar capacity. 

Natural Gas is a good bridge fuel. It's how a vast majority of Canadians heat their homes currently. Much better than Coal or Oil. 

Once battery and storage tech improves Solar and Wind will be far more viable to far more people. 

[Rebound]

27 minutes ago, reason10 said:

America’s first new nuclear reactors in decades recently went online in Georgia, over $14 Billion over budget, which is double  the original estimate.  

Provide a credible link or admit you are making this up.

Meanwhile, jackasses from Florida think a million dollar failure is a big deal.  When Mother Nature destroys a windmill, we don’t lose half a state for 200 years. 

Provide a credible link or admit you are LIAR.

I mean,we all KNOW that you're a LIAR, but we're getting tired of keeping you busy by putting you in a round room and telling you to sit in the corner.

By the way BAT GUANO FOR BRAINS, I have a link.

https://blog.mirrorreview.com/nuclear-power-plants-in-florida/

Florida is regarded as one of the best states in the U.S. for various industries, thanks to its pro-business tax policies, competitive and affordable costs, and robust infrastructure. Even some unconventional industries like nuclear power industry have found home in Florida. There are numerous prerequisites to building a nuclear power plant—like government permissions, availability of water, etc.—and Florida fulfills all the conditions to become an ideal state for nuclear power plants. Nuclear power plants in Florida have emerged as important sources of energy in recent years. Here is the list of the top 5 nuclear power plants in Florida.

St. Lucie Nuclear Power Plant

Located on the Hutchinson Island Florida, St. Lucie nuclear power plant is a twin nuclear power station that has been powering millions of homes in South Florida over the past 45 years. The construction of the first unit began in July 1970 and the second one began in June 1977. Both the units were commissioned in December 1976 and August 1983 respectively. Both the units are combustion engineering pressurized water reactors (PWR) and are located in separate containment buildings.

Alongside power generation, the plant also provides numerous quality jobs for the community and contributes a significant amount to the local economy each year. The Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) extended the operating licenses of both the existing units by twenty years in 2003. The license will be valid till March 2036 and April 2043 for unit 1 and unit 2 respectively.

Turkey Point Nuclear Generating Station

The Turkey Point Nuclear Generating Station is a nuclear and gas-fired power plant located on Biscayne Bay, 24 miles from Miami near the Homestead area. Similar to St. Lucie, this plant also has two nuclear power units. Both the nuclear power plants in Florida began their operations in 1972 and 1973 respectively. These units are Westinghouse pressurized water reactors. The nuclear power plant generates about 1600 Megawatts of electricity which is enough to cater to the annual needs of more than 900,000 homes.

Gee! 900,000 homes. A THOUSAND of those faggy windmills couldn't power ONE home.

Crystal River Energy Complex

The Crystal River Energy Complex is located near the mouth of the Crystal River in Florida and comprises seven power generation plants spread across 4700 acres. The complex was developed in the early 1960s by the Florida Power Corporation. It was acquired by Progress Energy Inc. in 2000 and is currently owned by Duke Energy. Plant no.1, 2, 4, and 5 are fossil fuel plants whereas plant no.3 was the only nuclear power plant—which began its operations in 1977 and was closed in 2013.

The nuclear power plant in the complex has been out of service since 2009 due to cracks in the containment building concrete. Progress Energy tried do-it-yourself repairs to the building housing the reactor, however, it failed in doing so and the plant was officially shut down in February 2013.

The Offshore Power Systems and the Levy County Nuclear power plant are shut down.

So far, a couple of Florida nuclear power plants are powering Florida homes and cities as well as those of other states, while CaliFAGula's windmills are destroyed by lightning.

And you wonder why everybody says CalifAGula is one of the dumbest states in the union.

 

 

 

So what?

You found two failed windmills out of 350,000 operating worldwide. Nobody was hurt by those windmills. 
You found a handful of reactors that haven’t had accidents? What about the three plants that did fail? They resulted in over $1 Trillion of damage in 2023 dollars.  That’s one million million dollars. 
 

And you point to a $1 million failure? If every windmill on the world failed twice, it wouldn’t cost as much as those nuclear disasters.  
 

“A nuclear power plant being built in Georgia is now projected to cost its owners more than $30 billion… with total spending of more than $34 billion.

When approved in 2012, the third and fourth reactors were estimated to cost $14 billion, with the first electricity being generated in 2016. “
https://apnews.com/article/business-environment-united-states-georgia-atlanta-7555f8d73c46f0e5513c15d391409aa3

Edited August 2, 2023 by Rebound

[Legato]

Some real numbers....

At the current price of natural gas and before counting any costs of transmission, wind’s cost is 6-7 cents per kilowatt-hour (kWh) more than its benefit—the cost of the fossil fuel it can save and the conventional  generation facilities it can replace. For wind’s existing 3.5% share of all U.S. generation, that 6-7 cents/kWh translates into $8.5 to $10 billion extra that ratepayers have paid this year, and will continue paying every year for as long as existing wind facilities (or their replacements) remain in operation.”

According to the American Tradition Institute, there are numerous hidden costs to wind power, including the cost of back-up power, the cost of extra transmission, and the cost of favorable tax benefits. And, the assumption of a 30-year life used in government calculations for wind power is optimistic given reports from European countries that have invested early in wind power.[vi] Including these hidden costs in calculating the cost of wind power increases its cost by a factor of 1.5 or 2, depending on the power system that is used as back-up. The Institute calculates that ratepayers are paying an extra $8.5 to $10 billion a year for wind power compared to natural gas-fired generation, and this will only grow as more capacity is added. Add to this the more than $12 billion that the American taxpayer is paying for the ‘one-year’ extension for the PTC, and one can see that the wind industry is getting a real boondoggle at the expense of taxpayers and ratepayers.

https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/renewable/wind/the-hidden-costs-of-wind-power/

[reason10]

You didn't preface your thread by how Florida should power itself. Florida does have lots of Solar capacity. 

Florida has a lot of SUN. But there really isn't enough land today to get even a fraction of the megawatts a regular fossil fuel plant could produce. Most of Florida's wide open spaces are cattle ranches and farms. About the only LARGE mass of land that might be tapped for the solar collectors would be the Everglades. But local environmental regulations (not to mention the cost of  putting structures in a swamp along with the cost of liability insurance) would make that impossible.

Natural Gas is a good bridge fuel. It's how a vast majority of Canadians heat their homes currently. Much better than Coal or Oil. 

Our UNELECTED NAZI president doesn't think that. He wants to outlaw gas stoves. But if you are looking at natural gas as a bridge fuel, I should tell you that I was born in the Dallas/Ft. Worth region of Texas. Growing up there, (especially the cow town of Ft. Worth) most of the air had that fart smell of leaked natural gas. It has been around for a long time.

Once battery and storage tech improves Solar and Wind will be far more viable to far more people.

One of the reasons I'm so hard on the BLUE STATE STUPID people here is their failure to actually open a HISTORY book and study. (History books to them might as well be a job application.) If you look at the history of powered transportation, you'd discover that fossil fuels don't account for as much trans time as horses, (which have been around for centuries)

Horses were highly polluting, shitting on the dirt roads in the towns they were in and out of.  Fuel for horses was grown on many acres of land. The internal combustion engine got its fuel from deep in a small section of land. It took from the late 19th Century to around the 1960s before nationwide car travel became easy and affordable, mostly because of the interstate highways and the infrastructure of gas stations.

The EnviroNazis today want to change all that INSTANTLY, taking cars away from the poor and outlawing them for everyone but rich Democrats.

Michael Crichton (the author) once said (In the novel STATE OF FEAR) that the MARKET will decide on new sources of energy. The government will only make things worse.

When the market is ready for solar or wind power, technology will advance exponentially. It'll be readily available for ALL income levels.

That supreme IDI0T AOC has suggested that a ship could be run on wind power.

[Rebound]

16 minutes ago, reason10 said:

You didn't preface your thread by how Florida should power itself. Florida does have lots of Solar capacity. 

Florida has a lot of SUN. But there really isn't enough land today to get even a fraction of the megawatts a regular fossil fuel plant could produce. Most of Florida's wide open spaces are cattle ranches and farms. About the only LARGE mass of land that might be tapped for the solar collectors would be the Everglades. But local environmental regulations (not to mention the cost of  putting structures in a swamp along with the cost of liability insurance) would make that impossible.

Natural Gas is a good bridge fuel. It's how a vast majority of Canadians heat their homes currently. Much better than Coal or Oil. 

Our UNELECTED NAZI president doesn't think that. He wants to outlaw gas stoves. But if you are looking at natural gas as a bridge fuel, I should tell you that I was born in the Dallas/Ft. Worth region of Texas. Growing up there, (especially the cow town of Ft. Worth) most of the air had that fart smell of leaked natural gas. It has been around for a long time.

Once battery and storage tech improves Solar and Wind will be far more viable to far more people.

One of the reasons I'm so hard on the BLUE STATE STUPID people here is their failure to actually open a HISTORY book and study. (History books to them might as well be a job application.) If you look at the history of powered transportation, you'd discover that fossil fuels don't account for as much trans time as horses, (which have been around for centuries)

Horses were highly polluting, shitting on the dirt roads in the towns they were in and out of.  Fuel for horses was grown on many acres of land. The internal combustion engine got its fuel from deep in a small section of land. It took from the late 19th Century to around the 1960s before nationwide car travel became easy and affordable, mostly because of the interstate highways and the infrastructure of gas stations.

The EnviroNazis today want to change all that INSTANTLY, taking cars away from the poor and outlawing them for everyone but rich Democrats.

Michael Crichton (the author) once said (In the novel STATE OF FEAR) that the MARKET will decide on new sources of energy. The government will only make things worse.

When the market is ready for solar or wind power, technology will advance exponentially. It'll be readily available for ALL income levels.

That supreme IDI0T AOC has suggested that a ship could be run on wind power.

Fake news. That’s not AOC’s account. 
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N38X1MT

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, reason10 said:

That supreme IDI0T AOC has suggested that a ship could be run on wind power.

^This supreme lDIOT does not know it's already been done. Duh

[WestCanMan]

9 hours ago, Rebound said:

America’s first new nuclear reactors in decades recently went online in Georgia, over $14 Billion over budget, which is double  the original estimate.  
 

Meanwhile, jackasses from Florida think a million dollar failure is a big deal.  When Mother Nature destroys a windmill, we don’t lose half a state for 200 years. 

They'll probably be producing a gigawatt of extremely reliable power each for about forty years. 

I don't think you understand how valuable that is. 

Edited August 3, 2023 by WestCanMan

[Rebound]

9 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

They'll probably be producing a gigawatt of extremely reliable power each for about forty years. 

I don't think you understand how valuable that is. 

Thank you for pointing that out. It’s true. According to the US DoE:

”At the end of 2021, there were 93 operating reactors with a combined generation capacity of about 95,492 MW.” As you say, that’s about 1 GW of power per reactor.

“The U.S. wind industry installed 13,413 megawatts (MW) of new wind capacity in 2021, bringing the cumulative total to 135,886 MW.”

And windmills are WAY cheaper than nuclear plants. $14 Billion cost overruns are unsustainable.

https://www.energy.gov/eere/wind/wind-market-reports-2022-edition#:~:text=Report%3A 2022 Edition-,Land-Based Wind Market Report,cumulative total to 135%2C886 MW.

Edited August 3, 2023 by Rebound

[WestCanMan]

5 hours ago, Rebound said:

Thank you for pointing that out. It’s true. According to the US DoE:

”At the end of 2021, there were 93 operating reactors with a combined generation capacity of about 95,492 MW.” As you say, that’s about 1 GW of power per reactor.

“The U.S. wind industry installed 13,413 megawatts (MW) of new wind capacity in 2021, bringing the cumulative total to 135,886 MW.”

And windmills are WAY cheaper than nuclear plants. $14 Billion cost overruns are unsustainable.

https://www.energy.gov/eere/wind/wind-market-reports-2022-edition#:~:text=Report%3A 2022 Edition-,Land-Based Wind Market Report,cumulative total to 135%2C886 MW.

They use dozens of acres per wind turbine, their power isn't reliable, they're useless without an insane amount of energy storage (batteries) and they become less and less efficient every year. They last about 20 years and their blades aren't recyclable. 

Also, when you quote the capacity of a nuclear generator, that's what you actually get 24/7. When you quote the capacity of a wind turbine you end up with about 25% of that.

If wind power was totally useless no one would use it, but it's not a great solution. 

Edited August 3, 2023 by WestCanMan

[reason10]

19 hours ago, Rebound said:

So what?

You found two failed windmills out of 350,000 operating worldwide. Nobody was hurt by those windmills. 
You found a handful of reactors that haven’t had accidents? What about the three plants that did fail? They resulted in over $1 Trillion of damage in 2023 dollars.  That’s one million million dollars. 
 

And you point to a $1 million failure? If every windmill on the world failed twice, it wouldn’t cost as much as those nuclear disasters.  
 

“A nuclear power plant being built in Georgia is now projected to cost its owners more than $30 billion… with total spending of more than $34 billion.

When approved in 2012, the third and fourth reactors were estimated to cost $14 billion, with the first electricity being generated in 2016. “
https://apnews.com/article/business-environment-united-states-georgia-atlanta-7555f8d73c46f0e5513c15d391409aa3

What I'm suggesting (which apparently the educated posters here got a long time ago) is that right now wind power is not read to generate the megawatts necessary to power a small mobile home park, much less major cities. As far as the millions involved with nuclear, those companies absorbed their costs, whereas you goose steppers want the TAXPAYERS to subsidize wind power and solar.

Maybe in sixty years  when the free market decides that wind power will work, the technology will become foolproof. Right now you continue to make a total ASS out of yourself on a computer that is powered by FOSSIL FUELS. Since you are a teenager, you might actually live to see a time when wind or solar will one day become a legitimate source of power.

Right now, they are unreliable and very inefficient.

Then again,  when you decide to power your house SOLELY with wind and solar and take yourself off the power grid, you'll have room to talk. Right now, your stupidity is being shoved down our throats every day POWERED BY FOSSIL FUELS.