Nationalist Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 Just now, impartialobserver said: Drag queens and trans people are not a new phenomenon.. If you think that they did not exist prior to the internet.. then you must have lived off the grid and never saw anyone. Oh I know they were in existence. I just don't think they would have been welcomed in schools in drag, or allowed to promote their life style in schools. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
impartialobserver Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: Oh I know they were in existence. I just don't think they would have been welcomed in schools in drag, or allowed to promote their life style in schools. It probably happened a few times especially in SF, Seattle, Portland, or NYC. As for all of them being pedophiles.. I have seen no hard data to back this up. Now, lets be clear hard data would be very difficult to get. This is names, addresses, medical diagnoses, arrest records, etc. Subjective articles are not sufficient so do not bother. Quote
CdnFox Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 23 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: It was never zero.. It was just not in the media. Pre-internet, a lot of things occurred that never made the newspaper. Fine - lets go back to never in the media. The occurances are constant. As i've demonstrated and every time you attempt to claim otherwise it turns out i'm right. You basically have to avoid all media and a significant number of conversations not to have it be an issue on a very regular basis. Everyone was happy to let the trans and gays be trans and gays and for them to let the heteros be heteros, etc. But now they want us to acknowledge them every 5 minutes and provide access to our children. Go shut up and be gay, and leave other people's children alone. We'll go be hetero and leave your children alone. End of story. 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Nationalist Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, impartialobserver said: It probably happened a few times especially in SF, Seattle, Portland, or NYC. As for all of them being pedophiles.. I have seen no hard data to back this up. Now, lets be clear hard data would be very difficult to get. This is names, addresses, medical diagnoses, arrest records, etc. Subjective articles are not sufficient so do not bother. Meh...some people are pedoes. They've always been there. We used to shun them or lock them up. Now we excuse them. No...the issue with trannies that I have is this idea they need to be teaching children. Edited July 10, 2023 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
impartialobserver Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 16 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Meh...some people are pedoes. They've always been there. We used to shun them or lock them up. Now we excuse them. No...the issue with trannies that I have is this idea they need to be teaching children. you must live in an alternate universe because I have yet to ever see/hear/read anyone be ok with the actions of a known pedophile. Child molestation and sexual abuse is universally reviled. Acknowledging that the predilection is deeply embedded in a person and can't be willed away is not excusing it... its called acknowledging reality. If anything it is some Conservatives who view females at age 14 or 15+ to not be children and so having sexual relations with them not being pedophilia. Quote
CdnFox Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 32 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: you must live in an alternate universe because I have yet to ever see/hear/read anyone be ok with the actions of a known pedophile. Let me introduce you to the Catholic church. But frankly they're HARDLY alone. The scouts. MANY teachers orgs in both canada and the us. They also 'shuffled' people' when accusations started flying. Sports orgs. Quote If anything it is some Conservatives who view females at age 14 or 15+ to not be children and so having sexual relations with them not being pedophilia. It was actually the liberals who brought in the law making it that young (admittedly a long time ago) - and conservatives under harper who raised it to it's current level. Prior to the liberals setting it at 14 it just copied the british law. So swing and a miss there. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Michael Hardner Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 Trying to make pedophilia into a new emergency is a pretty crass tactic to draw unengaged people into politics, as far as I can see. I'm on Facebook groups that are ostensibly supposed to be about helping kids but they also have pro-Putin, anti-vaccine, anti-LGBTQ, and pro-conspiracy messages about the WEF and so on. They also have no problem with openly accusing public figures as being part of an evil sex trafficking conspiracy. Three things should always be non starters. Don't allow people who do this to come to the table with dirty hands. Even Poilievre seems to be making pains to distance himself from some elements of this movement. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Nationalist Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 12 hours ago, impartialobserver said: you must live in an alternate universe because I have yet to ever see/hear/read anyone be ok with the actions of a known pedophile. Child molestation and sexual abuse is universally reviled. Acknowledging that the predilection is deeply embedded in a person and can't be willed away is not excusing it... its called acknowledging reality. If anything it is some Conservatives who view females at age 14 or 15+ to not be children and so having sexual relations with them not being pedophilia. No. I know I've seen articles trying to excuse the act. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CdnFox Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Trying to make pedophilia into a new emergency is a pretty crass tactic to draw unengaged people into politics, as far as I can see. The left always tries to downplay anything that concerns other people as being meaningless or trite or crass. Yet the same things tend to be HUGELY important when it's the left concerned about it There's nothing "Crass" about concerns that some middle aged adult is waiving his penis in your child's face and insisting that you must accept it to be inclusive. That's actually a VALID concern. Perhaps you can explain why parents shouldn't be concerned about that? Are you suggesting that sexual behavior with children is somehow appropriate? Please - enlighten us as to why its "crass" to be concerned about such things? I mean you must have a solid reason right? I'd hate to think you'd expose children to inappropriate sexual activity just to prop up the narrative of your tribe. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
impartialobserver Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: No. I know I've seen articles trying to excuse the act. Your claim is that the left widely and generally accepts child molestation and sexual abuse. For you to definitively prove this... which you can't, you would provide more than just a few opinionated articles. The burden of proof would be hundreds of articles, legislation, scholarly journal articles, etc. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 15 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: Your claim is that the left widely and generally accepts child molestation and sexual abuse. For you to definitively prove this... which you can't, you would provide more than just a few opinionated articles. The burden of proof would be hundreds of articles, legislation, scholarly journal articles, etc. raising the bar there aren't you? He doesn't actually have to do that. All he has to do is show that it's a common enough idea that's put forward and that it's not condemned or spoken against by the community as a whole. When a nazi flag appeared at the trucker's convoy conservatives everywhere denounced it and demanded that that person be found. when white supremacist nonsense was spouted by people associated with the conservative party they were tossed so hard they skipped like a rock on a lake. Conservatives REGULARLY kick people to the curb who spout nonsense they don't believe in. IS the left doing that? I see numerous articles saying children should be exposed to 'kink' and that they like seeing naked people and such, and that' its very appropriate to expose them to this at a very young age. I'm not seeing the backlash from the left wing community. Perhaps you could point it out. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Nationalist Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 1 hour ago, impartialobserver said: Your claim is that the left widely and generally accepts child molestation and sexual abuse. For you to definitively prove this... which you can't, you would provide more than just a few opinionated articles. The burden of proof would be hundreds of articles, legislation, scholarly journal articles, etc. https://torontosun.com/news/world/woke-watch-prof-says-lets-ditch-the-term-pedophile-for-minor-attracted-person MAPS? A destigmatization of child fckers? This is disgusting! There are literally hundreds of documents by "professors" like this Tweenkie Trying their damnedest to "normalize" child fckers. This is the kind of education we get from warped minds. People pay for this crap. Its insanity at its height. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
impartialobserver Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 18 minutes ago, Nationalist said: https://torontosun.com/news/world/woke-watch-prof-says-lets-ditch-the-term-pedophile-for-minor-attracted-person MAPS? A destigmatization of child fckers? This is disgusting! There are literally hundreds of documents by "professors" like this Tweenkie Trying their damnedest to "normalize" child fckers. This is the kind of education we get from warped minds. People pay for this crap. Its insanity at its height. that is one video... one. Lots of bizaare, unpopular ideas are endorsed by a few. Polygamy is another strange idea that relatively few endorse... Your one video does not show widespread, general acceptance. Quote
Nationalist Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: that is one video... one. Lots of bizaare, unpopular ideas are endorsed by a few. Polygamy is another strange idea that relatively few endorse... Your one video does not show widespread, general acceptance. Riiight... http://theglobalpreventionproject.org/maps https://www.shethepeople.tv/blog/rebranding-pedophiles-minor-attracted-people/ https://www.tpusa.com/live/the-transition-from-pedophiles-to-m-a-p-s https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=MAP https://cbjstar.co.uk/2019/03/22/virtuous-paedophile-community-of-maps-create-support-network-on-social-media/ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8466899/Paedophiles-rebrand-minor-attracted-persons-chilling-online-propaganda-drive.html Shall I go on? I can if you like? This is the destigmatization of a disgusting practice. That you would even entertain the idea of making light of it, is "bizarre". Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
impartialobserver Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: Riiight... http://theglobalpreventionproject.org/maps https://www.shethepeople.tv/blog/rebranding-pedophiles-minor-attracted-people/ https://www.tpusa.com/live/the-transition-from-pedophiles-to-m-a-p-s https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=MAP https://cbjstar.co.uk/2019/03/22/virtuous-paedophile-community-of-maps-create-support-network-on-social-media/ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8466899/Paedophiles-rebrand-minor-attracted-persons-chilling-online-propaganda-drive.html Shall I go on? I can if you like? This is the destigmatization of a disgusting practice. That you would even entertain the idea of making light of it, is "bizarre". I read some and they do not convey the message that pedophilia is a widely accepted practice in society. There is no legislation, data, or anything in your links. Just because I do not buy into your alarmist propaganda does not mean I condone or support it. I know that your binary mind can't comprehend this. Quote
Nationalist Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 1 minute ago, impartialobserver said: I read some and they do not convey the message that pedophilia is a widely accepted practice in society. There is no legislation, data, or anything in your links. Just because I do not buy into your alarmist propaganda does not mean I condone or support it. I know that your binary mind can't comprehend this. Oh I comprehend it alright. You roll over and allow shit like this to poison our kids and our society. I'm sorry but you're one of those rattle-heads found in pubs exclaiming... "But how was i to know THIS would happen?" Ya gits wut ya pays fer...and you're paying for social acceptance of disgusting people. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CdnFox Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: that is one video... one. Lots of bizaare, unpopular ideas are endorsed by a few. Polygamy is another strange idea that relatively few endorse... Your one video does not show widespread, general acceptance. You're being a little dishonest. You discount ANY evidence and ALL evidence because it doesn't mesh with what you want the answer to be. There are MANY efforts to expose kids to kink and trans/homo sexual acts and behaviors. https://www.christianpost.com/news/4-lgbt-pride-events-exposed-kids-to-nudity-explicit-content.html https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/tdsb-trustees-raise-concerns-about-nudity-at-pride-parade-pass-budget-1.1714870 Do democrats and the left speak out against it? No https://news.yahoo.com/washington-dems-silent-nude-pride-171113493.html Is it harmful to children? Yes. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/real-healing/201208/overexposed-and-under-prepared-the-effects-early-exposure-sexual-content There are dozens of articles like all of these spanning years. So when you pretend it isn't happening or that you refuse to address it unless there's HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS of cases etc then you're not being honest. It's happening on a large scale, it IS an issue, the left wing does not want it to be an issue, but it is. And yes it's bad for kids. 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Michael Hardner Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 2 hours ago, impartialobserver said: Your claim is that the left widely and generally accepts child molestation and sexual abuse. For you to definitively prove this... which you can't, you would provide more than just a few opinionated articles. The burden of proof would be hundreds of articles, legislation, scholarly journal articles, etc. Polling too. If the term is 'leftist' and people say the Liberal party is 'leftist' then ipso facto - show me a poll that says a majority of Liberal voters approves of pedophilia. There's no such thing. It's just more hysterical hair-pulling my online screamers. 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
impartialobserver Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 47 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Oh I comprehend it alright. You roll over and allow shit like this to poison our kids and our society. I'm sorry but you're one of those rattle-heads found in pubs exclaiming... "But how was i to know THIS would happen?" Ya gits wut ya pays fer...and you're paying for social acceptance of disgusting people. So in short.. you have nothing that explicitly outlines widespread, general, social acceptance. The internet allows for this... truth hurts, I know. They are disgusting but you have not shown anything that comes even close to proving that society in general is ok with this. Quote
CdnFox Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 11 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: So in short.. you have nothing that explicitly outlines widespread, general, social acceptance. The internet allows for this... truth hurts, I know. They are disgusting but you have not shown anything that comes even close to proving that society in general is ok with this. I know you're ignoring me because i intimidate you and you don't like the facts presented, But that doesn't make them less true. It's a shame - perhaps you should change your name to 'dishonestobserver' 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Moonbox Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) Pay attention to me! PLEAAASE! What a joke. Edited July 11, 2023 by Moonbox 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
CdnFox Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Moonbox said: Pay attention to me! PLEAAASE! What a joke. Well we do spend a fair bit of time laughing at you so fair enough 1 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Nationalist Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 57 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Polling too. If the term is 'leftist' and people say the Liberal party is 'leftist' then ipso facto - show me a poll that says a majority of Liberal voters approves of pedophilia. There's no such thing. It's just more hysterical hair-pulling my online screamers. Its not that you Libbies "approve" of child sexual molestation...its that you Libbies "make the bed" for child sexual molestation by normalizing and obscuring the intent of the molesters. What the hell is the need for calling these monsters "MAPS"? The ones who act on their nasty inclinations are PEDOPHILES! Nothing more. Accepting them in an environment where they can normalize this Trannie life-style...also making the bed for them to lie in...pun intended. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) 50 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: So in short.. you have nothing that explicitly outlines widespread, general, social acceptance. The internet allows for this... truth hurts, I know. They are disgusting but you have not shown anything that comes even close to proving that society in general is ok with this. No. The very intent of introducing this Trannie thing in elementary schools is preparing kids for this shock. Its a normalization exercise. Trannies do not need widespread social acceptance because they engage in abnormal and frankly...extremely warped activities. For instance... A man decides to be a woman by simply claiming that he is. Society has been told that this makes him a woman. This is warped...but no harm done to anyone but the Trannie...IMO...However...should said Trannie decide to...oh lets say...join the woman's swim team and clean up because of his male skeletal and muscular make-up. The social push to acceptance of a tiny percent of people, may make you Libbies "feel" good about yourselves...but you have laid the foundations for men to change in front of women and unfairly clean-up as winners of female swim meets. When you normalize stupid...stupid pushes the bounds till stupid is halted. You need to stop this stupid before it gets out of hand. Which...unchecked...it will. Edited July 11, 2023 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
impartialobserver Posted July 11, 2023 Report Posted July 11, 2023 52 minutes ago, Nationalist said: No. The very intent of introducing this Trannie thing in elementary schools is preparing kids for this shock. Its a normalization exercise. Trannies do not need widespread social acceptance because they engage in abnormal and frankly...extremely warped activities. For instance... A man decides to be a woman by simply claiming that he is. Society has been told that this makes him a woman. This is warped...but no harm done to anyone but the Trannie...IMO...However...should said Trannie decide to...oh lets say...join the woman's swim team and clean up because of his male skeletal and muscular make-up. The social push to acceptance of a tiny percent of people, may make you Libbies "feel" good about yourselves...but you have laid the foundations for men to change in front of women and unfairly clean-up as winners of female swim meets. When you normalize stupid...stupid pushes the bounds till stupid is halted. You need to stop this stupid before it gets out of hand. Which...unchecked...it will. In short.. you are predicting something. And I am supposed to buy into it because you are so passionate. Predictions are not evidence. Quote
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