Nationalist Posted July 3, 2023 Report Posted July 3, 2023 On 6/26/2023 at 3:43 PM, impartialobserver said: These are words and nothing else. I prefer cold, hard evidence over words. A rational position to take. https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/148/2/e2020016907/179762/Disparities-in-Childhood-Abuse-Between-Transgender?autologincheck=redirected This leads to the obvious question... Are those who grow up in an abusive environment, more or less inclined to be abusive themselves? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CrakHoBarbie Posted July 3, 2023 Report Posted July 3, 2023 (edited) On 6/26/2023 at 2:03 PM, reason10 said: I draw the line at Pedophiles, which is why these DRAG QUEERS are all about. Oh.... So you believe ALL drag queens are pedophiles? By God you are a stupid person. You are homophobic. Which means that, statistically, you are probably a closeted gay yourself. And you, a "probably" closeted gay man, spent years with children, grooming them to be closeted homosexuals. Thank goodness you are no longer in the classroom. Edited July 3, 2023 by CrakHoBarbie Quote
reason10 Posted July 4, 2023 Author Report Posted July 4, 2023 5 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Oh.... So you believe ALL drag queens are pedophiles? By God you are a stupid person. You are homophobic. Which means that, statistically, you are probably a closeted gay yourself. And you, a "probably" closeted gay man, spent years with children, grooming them to be closeted homosexuals. Thank goodness you are no longer in the classroom. I do not think ALL drag queers are pedophiles. There are some men who wear women's clothes in the privacy of their own homes. They are a threat to nobody. There are some who dance in drag queer clubs, ones that have an age limit: no minors. They are not a threat to anyone. The Drag Queers who target CHILDREN ARE PEDOPHILES. Period. End of discussion. Fck your bullshit "homophobe" bullshit. Homos are nothing to fear. Oh, and disagreeing with pedophiles being in contact with children does not make a person a closeted queer. Oh, I'm IN the classrooms of TWO counties. And while they treat teachers like shit (same all over the country) they treat subs like rock stars. So I'll be facing young skulls full of mush while you smoke meth and feel horrible thoughts about children actually learning something, (unlike your Downs Syndrome bullshit Blue STate) Quote
CrakHoBarbie Posted July 4, 2023 Report Posted July 4, 2023 25 minutes ago, reason10 said: I do not think ALL drag queers are pedophiles. There are some men who wear women's clothes in the privacy of their own homes. They are a threat to nobody. There are some who dance in drag queer clubs, ones that have an age limit: no minors. They are not a threat to anyone. The Drag Queers who target CHILDREN ARE PEDOPHILES. Period. End of discussion. Fck your bullshit "homophobe" bullshit. Homos are nothing to fear. Oh, and disagreeing with pedophiles being in contact with children does not make a person a closeted queer. Oh, I'm IN the classrooms of TWO counties. And while they treat teachers like shit (same all over the country) they treat subs like rock stars. So I'll be facing young skulls full of mush while you smoke meth and feel horrible thoughts about children actually learning something, (unlike your Downs Syndrome bullshit Blue STate) Changing your story now? You know r10, I talk to a lot of folks on a lot of forums. And I must say that you my friend, you are quite possibly the worst pos I've met on line. What a pathetic excuse for a human you are. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted July 4, 2023 Report Posted July 4, 2023 2 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Changing your story now? You know r10, I talk to a lot of folks on a lot of forums. And I must say that you my friend, you are quite possibly the worst pos I've met on line. What a pathetic excuse for a human you are. You woudn't be able to say that if you send yourself a text Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Zeitgeist Posted July 4, 2023 Report Posted July 4, 2023 I don’t think all drag queens are pedophiles, just the ones who want to wear their getups around children. Quote
impartialobserver Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 On 7/3/2023 at 9:44 AM, Nationalist said: A rational position to take. https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/148/2/e2020016907/179762/Disparities-in-Childhood-Abuse-Between-Transgender?autologincheck=redirected This leads to the obvious question... Are those who grow up in an abusive environment, more or less inclined to be abusive themselves? There has long been research that shows that those who are abused at a young age are likely to do so later on.. especially if the abuse goes unchecked. This is not always the case.. my older brother was not abused but has since been the abuser. If you (yes.. you nationalist specifically) met him in real life, you would think he is a fine upstanding man's man. It just shows that we can't judge the book by its cover. Quote
Nationalist Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 1 hour ago, impartialobserver said: There has long been research that shows that those who are abused at a young age are likely to do so later on.. especially if the abuse goes unchecked. This is not always the case.. my older brother was not abused but has since been the abuser. If you (yes.. you nationalist specifically) met him in real life, you would think he is a fine upstanding man's man. It just shows that we can't judge the book by its cover. So...yes, abused kids are more likely to be abusers...but not always? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
impartialobserver Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 14 minutes ago, Nationalist said: So...yes, abused kids are more likely to be abusers...but not always? no, not always. There is nothing grand or revelatory about this. Children of drug addicts, alcoholics, narcissists, wife beaters frequently carry that behavior on forward. As for being the victim, nothing messes with you quite like that. For those who have not endured it... it is so easy to come forth. There are no consequences for accusing someone of this and not having videos of it with dates and times. Quote
Nationalist Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: no, not always. There is nothing grand or revelatory about this. Children of drug addicts, alcoholics, narcissists, wife beaters frequently carry that behavior on forward. As for being the victim, nothing messes with you quite like that. For those who have not endured it... it is so easy to come forth. There are no consequences for accusing someone of this and not having videos of it with dates and times. So if parenting is a tell-tale sign of how a kid will likely act as an adult, and parents let trannies teach their kids that being a social and sexual deviant is OK, see where I'm headed with this? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
impartialobserver Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 30 minutes ago, Nationalist said: So if parenting is a tell-tale sign of how a kid will likely act as an adult, and parents let trannies teach their kids that being a social and sexual deviant is OK, see where I'm headed with this? Hmmmm... so you are comparing actual physical/mental abuse with just observing a gay person and saying its ok to be gay. Quite the jump in logic. Quote
Nationalist Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: Hmmmm... so you are comparing actual physical/mental abuse with just observing a gay person and saying its ok to be gay. Quite the jump in logic. Actually...it is OK to be gay. It is NOT OK to promote the Gay life style in elementary schools. It is ABHORRENT to promote Trannie life style in elementary schools. It is DISGUSTING to have naked men and women parading in public for all...including kids...to see. that's also quite illegal. Edited July 10, 2023 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
impartialobserver Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 19 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Actually...it is OK to be gay. It is NOT OK to promote the Gay life style in elementary schools. It is ABHORRENT to promote Trannie life style in elementary schools. It is DISGUSTING to have naked men and women parading in public for all...including kids...to see. that's also quite illegal. Believe it or not.. there is no promoting the supposed "gay life style" at my kids school. As a parent, I have not gone down that road yet. When that time comes.. I will say it is fine if you are gay and fine if you are not. Quote
Rebound Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: So if parenting is a tell-tale sign of how a kid will likely act as an adult, and parents let trannies teach their kids that being a social and sexual deviant is OK, see where I'm headed with this? Good parenting means raising your children so they aren’t sexist, racist, bigoted jerks. Because intolerance is one of the worst things happening in our world today. If it is healthy for a child to see a man kissing a woman, then it’s just as healthy for a child to see a man kissing another man. Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
Nationalist Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: Believe it or not.. there is no promoting the supposed "gay life style" at my kids school. As a parent, I have not gone down that road yet. When that time comes.. I will say it is fine if you are gay and fine if you are not. It is fine if you're gay...but that wasn't my point. Would you want gay teachers to be promoting their sexuality to your kids? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
impartialobserver Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nationalist said: It is fine if you're gay...but that wasn't my point. Would you want gay teachers to be promoting their sexuality to your kids? No. However, here is where we differ. You think it is happening in every school in every town. All 24,000 K-12 schools are plagued by this exact scenario. My thought is that this is relatively rare and mostly contained to places like SF, Seattle, Portland that are liberal and have been for decades. Quote
Nationalist Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 15 minutes ago, Rebound said: Good parenting means raising your children so they aren’t sexist, racist, bigoted jerks. Because intolerance is one of the worst things happening in our world today. Intolerance? Dude...war is one of the things happening. Famine is one of the worst things happening. Global recession is one of the worst things happening. Intolerance isn't even on the scale. 17 minutes ago, Rebound said: If it is healthy for a child to see a man kissing a woman, then it’s just as healthy for a child to see a man kissing another man. One is normal and the other is not. On top of that, I'd wager that if hetero teachers were caught kissing in front of students, they'd likely be chastised in some form. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 14 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: No. However, here is where we differ. You think it is happening in every school in every town. All 24,000 K-12 schools are plagued by this exact scenario. My thought is that this is relatively rare and mostly contained to places like SF, Seattle, Portland that are liberal and have been for decades. Did I say this was going on everywhere? IMO such should not go on anywhere. THAT'S where we differ. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
impartialobserver Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Did I say this was going on everywhere? IMO such should not go on anywhere. THAT'S where we differ. A lot of things should not happen anywhere but they do. Why? Humans are imperfect and enforcement is not absolute. I watched two white parents pimp out their 12 year old daughter for drugs... how can this happen? Answer.. police are not embedded in every group of homeless people. Crime happens and only so much of it is caught. Now I know how you will react. Acknowledging reality means that I condone it. By this logic.. 2+2 =4 means that I have something against 5 Edited July 10, 2023 by impartialobserver Quote
Nationalist Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: A lot of things should not happen anywhere but they do. Why? Humans are imperfect and enforcement is not absolute. I watched two white parents pimp out their 12 year old daughter for drugs... how can this happen? Answer.. police are not embedded in every group of homeless people. Crime happens and only so much of it is caught. Now I know how you will react. Acknowledging reality means that I condone it. By this logic.. 2+2 =4 means that I have something against 5 I don't react like that at all. But should we not at least strive for the best possible results? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
impartialobserver Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I don't react like that at all. But should we not at least strive for the best possible results? Strive for the best but not overreact to the relatively rare instances. There is no value in getting worked up because the the relative frequency is not 0. No reasonable amount of effort is going to lower this to 0 without other unintended consequences. Quote
Nationalist Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: Strive for the best but not overreact to the relatively rare instances. There is no value in getting worked up because the the relative frequency is not 0. No reasonable amount of effort is going to lower this to 0 without other unintended consequences. With regards to trannies...it was zero. It should be again. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
impartialobserver Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 Just now, Nationalist said: With regards to trannies...it was zero. It should be again. It was never zero.. It was just not in the media. Pre-internet, a lot of things occurred that never made the newspaper. Quote
Nationalist Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: It was never zero.. It was just not in the media. Pre-internet, a lot of things occurred that never made the newspaper. Perhaps...but I would be surprised. I don't think the population as a whole would have been down for that anywhere. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
impartialobserver Posted July 10, 2023 Report Posted July 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Perhaps...but I would be surprised. I don't think the population as a whole would have been down for that anywhere. Drag queens and trans people are not a new phenomenon.. If you think that they did not exist prior to the internet.. then you must have lived off the grid and never saw anyone. Quote
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