Who is Worse, Trudeau or Biden?

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

Biden's experience made him far more pragmatic so he got more done in 4 years than most presidents in 8, in a system where a president has much less real power than a prime minister. 

he didn't get much done. and almost all of what he got done was spending. That's not hard to do nor does it require any experience. 

He wasn't a disaster but how are you calculating his 'more in 4' ?

[Michael Hardner]

The jury says...

The Trump...

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2024/07/23/canadians-against-re-election-donald-trump-us-poll/

[August1991]

On 7/24/2024 at 5:54 AM, Michael Hardner said:

The jury says...

The Trump...

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2024/07/23/canadians-against-re-election-donald-trump-us-poll/

Disagree, sorta.

Trump is still here. Biden is gone.

Trudeau Jnr is still here.

Edited July 25, 2024 by August1991

[Michael Hardner]

4 minutes ago, August1991 said:

Disagree, sorta.

Trump is still here. Biden is gone.

Trudeau Jnr is still here.

Sure sure.  They might still elect Trump too.

Can you IMAGINE ? 🥰

[ironstone]

Perhaps Trudeau is worse because he isn't subject to term limits.

Most of my friends dislike Trudeau as do I, but most of them also can't stand Trump while they have a high opinion of Biden. We are all influenced to some degree by the news sources we rely on and I know they all watch CTV, Global or the CBC which mimic their US counterparts with the constant negative coverage of Trump. Most of them are likely unaware of anything negative stories regarding Joe. 

[Old Guy]

On 6/29/2023 at 6:03 PM, OftenWrong said:

Yep, you heard it because its all true. 

And yet after millions of dollars and thousands of hours spent by congressional committees lead by MAGA Republicans Comer and Jordan not a shred of evidence. 

[CdnFox]

On 8/31/2024 at 11:43 AM, Old Guy said:

And yet after millions of dollars and thousands of hours spent by congressional committees lead by MAGA Republicans Comer and Jordan not a shred of evidence. 

well probably not millions.  And there is  evidence, just not enough to move forward with charges for a criminal trial. But as was the case with trump that doesn't mean there's not enough to reach a conclusion on a more civil burden of guilt.  Criminal charges require the evidence to be 'beyond reasonable doubt'  where as civil cases only require it to be 'clear and convincing' or the even lower "balance of probabilities". 

So while the evidence does not meet the bar sufficient for criminal charges as we've seen there is in fact evidence. And it's not unconvincing. 

But either way i think it's safe to say the dems blew that out of the water by an order of magnitude or two  with 8 years of 'russian collusion', GENUINELY millions of dollars spent, dozens of fbi agents tied up in it for YEARS,  and there are democrats who STILL think that's a thing  Hillary still goes around saying that trump was not legally the president and the russians won it for him.  And the evidence presented there really was pretty much zero.