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7 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Do you have any evidence or examples of those bills?

jezus. We;ve only been discussing it as a nation for 2 years now, and it just passed. Read a F**king paper you sealion.

"do you have any evidence the sun rose in teh east this morning?"  Quit being such a tard.

 

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5 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

This is the old "Well you can't prove God DOESN'T exist!"

no, this is 'if you read about what you're discussing you might have a clue '  :)

It's not that we can't prove the paper doesn't exist - it does. Read it.

5 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

If you make the claim, it's on you to back it up.

Not if it's common knowledge. And not if the person is a sealion. Which you absolutely are. So that would mean it's up to you to determine why the new law ISN'T what they say it is. Finding the law is a half a second google search.

 

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Just now, Americana Antifa said:

Bills aren't common knowledge. Especially ones that right-wing media made up.

They are literally common knowledge. They are published, announced, discussed in every newspaper for months in this case,  and discussed in the HOUSE OF COMMONS, that's how common they are .

But sure - we're kind of use to you lying so you do you .

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5 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

"This article originally appeared in the the Epoch Times."

Nope. Try again.

Told you guys. She's just sealioning.  The truth doesn't interest her, she's all about the lies. 

She's never looked up a thing in her life - that's why it's so easy to make her look stupid.  She's utterly uneducated and anyone with any knowledge on a subject can run circles around her.  And it was obvious that she was going to say "nope try again" no matter WHAT you put in front of her. :)

WE really shouldn't feed the trolls like this.

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3 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

You're right, I should accept a known fake news site as evidence.

Or point out what they got wrong if you disagree with it.  Or look up the bill they're talking about and read it and see if what they're saying holds water.  Or look the bill up in other news sources and see what they have to say there.  There's articles all  over the web on all kinds of platforms left and right - funny enough they mostly all agree but - pick the one you like.

 

But no - your ONLY CHOICE POSSIBLE was to demand he go and look up more for you.   You're a liar and a sealion

 

3 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Actually, I think Alex Jones also posted some proof of your claim.

Woulnd't shock me - like i said this is one issue where the left and right are pretty much singing the same tune

But lets face it - if we brought you a letter signed by God and AOC saying "this is the truth" you'd dismiss it for some damn reason and say 'Nope - go do more work for me that i should be doing".

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1 hour ago, Americana Antifa said:

Actually, I think Alex Jones also posted some proof of your claim.

TBH, it's just gonna be a fact that some of the things Alex Jones says are true.

Probably more of it is true on average than what you see on CBC and CNN. 

Basically everything that you ever saw on CBC about covid and the vaccines was BS. Everything that you saw about Russian collusion was BS. Everything that you saw about BLM and mostly peaceful protests on those stations was BS. 

That doesn't mean that nothing on CNN is ever true, or CBC, but discounting Epoch Times and Alex Jones out of hand is no better than doing the same to CBC and CNN.

And if we're being totally honest, you have a lengthy track record of lying here, and saying things that you had to know were disproven long before you said them. 

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1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

TBH, it's just gonna be a fact that some of the things Alex Jones says are true.

I mean, he probably said that sushi is delicious at some point, he'd be right about that.

But my point is that a fake news site isn't a good source.

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

Probably more of it is true on average than what you see on CBC and CNN. 

All news stations are biased in what the choose to report, but CNN doesn't report fake news.

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

Basically everything that you ever saw on CBC about covid and the vaccines was BS. Everything that you saw about Russian collusion was BS. Everything that you saw about BLM and mostly peaceful protests on those stations was BS. 

I don't know about the CBC, but CNN didn't make any claims about Russiagate until after several things were proven and people were actually arrested. The narrative that CNN was reporting that Trump colluded with Russia before the Mueller Report was released was a lie made up by Trump and then spread by Fox. CNN even downplayed the fact that when Trump's campaign was offered help from Russia, they accepted.

As for BLM, the vast majority of their marches were peaceful. It's just that right-wing media only focused on the fringe cases so they can make the movement look bad. And I say this as someone who doesn't like BLM. I think the movement has failed to denounce rioting as publicly and often as they should have. I also disagree that most of these cases of police violence were racially motivated. But the truth is, the movement was generally peaceful.

 

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And if we're being totally honest, you have a lengthy track record of lying here, and saying things that you had to know were disproven long before you said them. 

Name one thing I lied about.

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22 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

I mean, he probably said that sushi is delicious at some point, he'd be right about that.

But my point is that a fake news site isn't a good source.

And my point is that CBC and CNN are absolutely terrible sources of news. At this point it's a joke if an adult turns that crap on and calls it "news".

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All news stations are biased in what the choose to report, but CNN doesn't report fake news.

CNN absolutely reports fake news. The Russian collusion story was fake news, 100%. The whole covid saga was fake news. The M Brown narrative was absolutely false and CNN knew that on day 1. 

CNN is as fake as the day is long and there's no denying it. 

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I don't know about the CBC, but CNN didn't make any claims about Russiagate until after several things were proven and people were actually arrested.

OMG that's such BS. They were on it like a fat kid on a Twinkie for 3 years and there was evidence of collusion for zero seconds. 

People were arrested and charged for "things", but nothing collusion-related ever got a guilty verdict. Manafort was guilty of some old tax evasion charges but nothing to do with collusion. The FBI tried to get him to give false testimony by offering a reduced sentence for his non-collusion related charges, that's one of the reasons the FBI is not a legitimate police force. 

Roger Stone didn't collude with Russians. You know who did? Hillary. She absolutely got her intel from Russian sources. 

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The narrative that CNN was reporting that Trump colluded with Russia before the Mueller Report was released was a lie made up by Trump and then spread by Fox. CNN even downplayed the fact that when Trump's campaign was offered help from Russia, they accepted.

Literally everything that you said there was either stupid or an outright lie. 

You could have smeared your own crap on the screen and it would have been more mature.

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As for BLM, the vast majority of their marches were peaceful.

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But the truth is, the movement was generally peaceful.

They held rallies during the day to gather large crowds, and those crowds turned riotous with metronome consistency.

Do you know why those crowds turned violent? Because BLM cultivated false narratives to incite that violence.

You can't get a group of 10,000 people together, lie to them about "the gentle giant and the racist cop", let the angriest, dumbest people address the crowd, and then expect peace.

It's like if some parents leave a bunch of booze, porn and drugs lying around before they leave their teenager to watch the house for the weekend and then act shocked when chaos breaks out. They say "It was a mostly peaceful weekend. The cops only came to the house once."

BLM had a recipe for riots and they used it over and over. Not like 6 times, or 8 times. Hundreds of times. 

BLM's MO was to edit video footage to make police look bad and release it on the internet. Every video they released started at the point where the situation was out of control. Their name is even ignorant and inflammatory. Literally everything they did was to incite riots.  

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Name one thing I lied about.  

Look up ffs. 

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5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

CNN absolutely reports fake news. The Russian collusion story was fake news, 100%. The whole covid saga was fake news. The M Brown narrative was absolutely false and CNN knew that on day 1. 

Do you have any proof that CNN knew it was fake? 

There's a big difference between lying and just reporting on what they know, then correcting what they got wrong, which CNN often does. Conservatives also say CNN lied about Jussie Smollett, which is obviously not true, CNN just reported on what they knew, then reported that the story was faked when they found out. This is different from Fox knowingly lying about the Big Lie.

5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

People were arrested and charged for "things", but nothing collusion-related ever got a guilty verdict.

And CNN never said that happened. What exactly do you think CNN lied about?

TBH, it sounds like you didn't actually watch CNN, you just got second hand news on what they were saying from Fox.

5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

They held rallies during the day to gather large crowds, and those crowds turned riotous with metronome consistency.

Sure, but that was the exception, not the rule. The vast majority of the rallies were peaceful marches.

5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

You can't get a group of 10,000 people together, lie to them about "the gentle giant and the racist cop", let the angriest, dumbest people address the crowd, and then expect peace.

If a cop needlessly murders a civilian, are we not supposed to talk about it? What you're basically saying is that we shouldn't talk about things that might result in violence.

Don't get me wrong, there is an irresponsible way to talk about things. If someone was saying "The cops murdered him, now it's time for revenge," that would be dangerous and irresponsible. But to just report on the story and demand justice, that's what should happen.

5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Look up ffs. 

Apology accepted.

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11 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Do you have any proof that CNN knew it was fake? 

You mean other than the fbi saying it was fake?

We certainly have lawsuits and such to prove that cnn lies and gets caught.

And with smollet they presented things as true which had not yet been proven. Which means they lied - they said 'this is true' and it turned out not to be.  If they had said "this is being reported' that's different.

If you're going to try to claim that CNN doesn't lie then what's left of your tattered reputation and dismal credibility will be firmly flushed down the toilet, which in fairness is probably where it belongs.

 

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10 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

"This article originally appeared in the the Epoch Times."

Nope. Try again.

You know, I knew you'd seize on that to dismiss it. But this article was considered acceptably true to be featured on the Macdonald Laurier Institute site. And the information contained in it is easily verified or would be easily shown to be false with very little effort.

The Left dismisses all news that comes from right-wing sites even though the mainstream media and Left sites never cover such things.

If you know so little about Canada and its politics that you haven't even heard of this bill or what it does then what's the point of even trying to carry on a conversation with you? Clearly you exist in a tight, shielded silo which admits no outside information.

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7 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

And my point is that CBC and CNN are absolutely terrible sources of news. At this point it's a joke if an adult turns that crap on and calls it "news".

CNN absolutely reports fake news. The Russian collusion story was fake news, 100%. The whole covid saga was fake news. The M Brown narrative was absolutely false and CNN knew that on day 1. 

CNN is as fake as the day is long and there's no denying it. 

I have lost a great deal of confidence in CNN since the BLM riots which were "mostly peaceful'. That being said it's still more accurate than FOX. And its coverage of the Russian collusion story was not 'fake news'. Trump's relationship with Russia is inexplicable other than he covets their election help and/or fears what they have on him. 

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8 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

You know, I knew you'd seize on that to dismiss it. But this article was considered acceptably true to be featured on the Macdonald Laurier Institute site. And the information contained in it is easily verified or would be easily shown to be false with very little effort.

Duh.  Macdonald Laurier Institute prints fake news too.

8 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

The Left dismisses all news that comes from right-wing sites even though the mainstream media and Left sites never cover such things.

Why do you think that is? Do you think maybe it's because the Right doesn't care about truth as long as the story fits their narrative?

Y'all forgot about this, but the Left doesn't like Biden or Hillary, we wanted Bernie. But when Bernie lost in the primaries, we didn't believe a bunch of conspiracy theories, we didn't storm DC. We just accepted reality.

Conservatives don't care about reality, that's why Trump being a pathological liar isn't a deal-breaker. 

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1 minute ago, Americana Antifa said:

Duh.  Macdonald Laurier Institute prints fake news too.

Why do you think that is? Do you think maybe it's because the Right doesn't care about truth as long as the story fits their narrative?

I read Left wing media. They are as frozen in their silos as some of the Right. They don't cover such things not because they aren't happening but because they go against THE MESSAGE. It's the same reason they shy away from reporting on black violence towards whites or asians and are obsessed with any hint of violence directed AT blacks by white people.

1 minute ago, Americana Antifa said:

Y'all forgot about this, but the Left doesn't like Biden or Hillary, we wanted Bernie. But when Bernie lost in the primaries, we didn't believe a bunch of conspiracy theories, we didn't storm DC. We just accepted reality.

Bernie is not a man much connected with reality, nor are his supporters.

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2 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

I read Left wing media. They are as frozen in their silos as some of the Right. They don't cover such things not because they aren't happening but because they go against THE MESSAGE. It's the same reason they shy away from reporting on black violence towards whites or asians and are obsessed with any hint of violence directed AT blacks by white people.

What left-wing media do you read or watch?

If you say CNN, you have to leave earth.

 

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