Trudeau hires some lefty loon to combat "Islamophobia" (whatever that means)

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Remind me to consult on you on proper interpretation of the Bible and Koran.

I don't hold out a lot of hope but if you really want to learn some of the differences between the Quran and the Bible, there are lots of websites.  Why would you reject them?  Do you know more about the Quran and the Bible than most of the people who have gone into detail about the differences?

The Bible and the Quran: A brief comparison | carm.org

[blackbird]

5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

it's unChristian.

The Bible teaches that Jesus Christ is God and became God in the flesh.   The Quran denies that Jesus is God and teaches he was only a prophet.   Yet you attack the Bible and Christianity and seem to want to give the Quran and Islam equal credibility.  Makes no sense.

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[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Remind me to consult on you on proper interpretation of the Bible and Koran.

How many times did Jesus chop off people's heads for not converting to Christianity? What about mohammed? Do you know the answer to that? 

Maybe when you know, you'll know. 

[CITIZEN_2015]

8 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Ok.... and to follow the principles you set out... the Inquisition, Colonialism, and so on are all the "fault" of Christianity ?

Do you see where this goes ?

I actually appreciate this approach because it's so wrong-headed that it provides a perfect explanation as to why culture-blaming is stupid.  We are not our ancestors.  We can acknowledge the wrongs of the past, especially if their effects linger.

How do we help people now, today ?

People are blaming Canadians for the actions of Muslims hundreds of years ago and unhinged people are murdering innocents.  The response from people like you is "hey, that's freedom of speech".

My freedom of speech says you should shut up.

First off you shut the hell off yourself. If you are stupid enough to not understand my writings then don't attack me like a wild animal out of cage.

Read my posts. I did not blame Muslims as a whole but the ideology that some of those people acted and still acting the most recent examples are violence against women and children  murders and rapes committed by a bunch of Islamic clergy in Iran and Taliban extremists in Afghanistan.

Those whose ancestors committed those crimes 1400 years ago are still committing same crimes TODAY and they or the ideology they act upon both deserves condemnation as of 1400 years ago AND AS OF TODAY.

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[Michael Hardner]

52 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

How many times did Jesus chop off people's heads for not converting to Christianity? What about mohammed? Do you know the answer to that? 

Why should I care ?  Here's the final answer: I don't.  
Should I care that millions of Catholics believe they drink blood every Sunday ?  No.  I shouldn't.

Just live your life and stop thinking you're better than everybody.

[CITIZEN_2015]

6 hours ago, Contrarian said:

Citizen I understand you are fighting hard for your cause, the barbarism that the Shia did to Iranians in the latest history was brutal. Almost everyone lost a family member. 

But

Allow me to make an observation:

How are you going to be more rational and think you can discuss this with impartiality? We know anyday you will lift the banner of the Lion and forget all about the Savak brutality and previous issues because the recent history is so painful.

Understand where are you coming from. The same people told me to look at Das Kapital as a critique book. I will never be able to reason with looking at it like that.

You do the same with the Shia, but does that mean every Shia in 2023 is bad? Some practice their religion in peace in the West, will never have power, is just something that was passed generational. 

Don't lie to yourself that you represent the truth here. We are driven by anger and resentment. You with shia, me with communists. Hard to see all angles. 

---> I am all the way with you to see the IRGC group be brought down and stripped of its power over the Iranian people, my message was about regular Shia in The West, 2023. 

My friend, did you ever see me or read any of my posts that I actually attacked all Shia or shiite Muslims or did you read my posts attacking the Shiite clergy in Islamic Republic and their followers  who are committing mass murder in Iran as well as torture and rape and viokence against women and the nation of Iran some of whom are actually practicing Shiite Muslims?

 

[CITIZEN_2015]

6 hours ago, Contrarian said:

No, but if I suspect you have the same anger that I have towards communists the way I do for robbing me for building my own family in my own country, then I know where the mind goes. ?

if I am wrong, my apologies. 

Yes your judgement on me is wrong. I love the nation of Iran whose population still (in spite of atrocities being committed by Shiite Islamic clergy past many years and centuries) are still Shiite Muslims. Significantly less and decreasing at a good rate but still officially Shiite Muslims.

I condemn the ideology and those minority population who act upon the ideology not the whole, the majority of whom also wish to live in freedom and peace. That was why earlier in the thread I oppose stopping immigration based on religion but rather being selective in our immigration policy case by case to prevent Muslim extremists from coming here. MUSLIM EXTEMISTS ARE A THREAT AND DANGER TO CANADA and this is a fact.

 

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[CITIZEN_2015]

28 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Just live your life and stop thinking you're better than everybody.

I am by far better and more humane and more advanced and superior to Muslim extremists because I treat people regardless of race and religion with respect (unless they disrespect me first) and treat women with respect and believe in total equality of women and believe in democratic values and freedom and THEY DON'T.

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[Guest]

27 minutes ago, blackbird said:

The Bible teaches the Jesus Christ is God and became God in the flesh.   The Quran denies that Jesus is God and teaches he was only a prophet.   Yet you attack the Bible and Christianity and seem to want to give the Quran and Islam equal credibility.  Makes no sense.

 

20 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

How many times did Jesus chop off people's heads for not converting to Christianity? What about mohammed? Do you know the answer to that? 

Maybe when you know, you'll know. 

It's not what Jesus did, and it's not what Mohammad did.  And neither book has any credibility.  Both are works of fiction written by people who wanted to control other people. 

All that matters is interpretation and action. 

The organization Humanists International publishes a report called "The Freedom of Thought Report" .  The 2022 report contains the following maps:

https://fot.humanists.international/map/

Islamic countries are not the only ones that show deep red, but they are well over represented, and the ideology which puts them there is religious. And that's because of the interpretation of that ideology and the actions of those who do the interpreting.

Christianity had its brutality.  They had their Inquisition and their burnings and their forced conversions.  The difference between Islam and Christianity is a few hundred years, and that's why criticism of Islam today should be vociferous and constant.  It currently shows no sign of any enlightenment.  

Islamophobia, to me, is when someone looks at a Muslim and says, "you are the problem", without knowing the individual.

Islamophobia, to me, is not looking at Islam and saying "you are the problem".

[CITIZEN_2015]

4 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

I think the immigration system in Canada is pretty well put in, as strict as in America in my view, in terms of checks and vetting purposes. Especially for permanent residents, the sponsorship program is not easy an easy process. 

The marketing is what we see, you know people at the border being welcomed by the Mountain Police with flowers and presents, but then as they say everyone starts having a file, I think anyways ?.

I found that this society gives chances to all, but if it determines that your intent here is to mess around, eventually the law catches up with all. The media however always tends to portray this idea that Canada is an open door for all and you can just stroll in like there are no checks. The reality is different

I am not sure Canada is selective enough in its immigration policy especially when it comes to refugees. For examples hundreds of former Islamic Republic regime associates who committed atrocities against a defenseless nation are now living in Canada.

[blackbird]

3 hours ago, bcsapper said:

And neither book has any credibility.  Both are works of fiction written by people who wanted to control other people.

Whether one believes the Bible or not, Western civilization is largely founded upon the heritage of Judeo-Christian civilization or Biblical principles.

The American Constitution leans heavily that way.

"When our nation’s Founding Fathers gave us documents such as the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and others, they had to lean upon a common understanding of law, government, social order, and morality.  That understanding sprang from the common acceptance of what has come to be known as our Judeo-Christian Heritage.

Our Judeo-Christian Heritage is the system of values that originates in the Old and New Testaments of the Holy Bible – specifically, the Ten Commandments in the Old Testament and The Sermon on the Mount in the New Testament.

....Anyone who examines the original writings, personal correspondence, biographies, and public statements of the individuals who were instrumental in the founding of America, will find an abundance of quotations showing the profound extent to which their thinking was influenced by a Biblical Worldview. "

If you want to read about these seven principles, go to:

The 7 Principles of our Judeo-Christian Heritage | Beyond Positive Thinking

Canada was similarly built on a Christian heritage.

"The Laws of The Land

In 1960, Prime Minister John Diefenbaker introduced the Canadian Bill of Rights. It begins with, “The Parliament of Canada, affirming that the Canadian Nation is founded upon principles that acknowledge the supremacy of God…” The Canadian Bill of Rights can be found here.

In 1981, Pierre Elliott Trudeau signed his name to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. The Charter begins with, “Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God and the rule of the law.” The Charter of Rights and Freedoms can be found here."

"The Education System

Egerton Ryerson, father of public education in Canada, wanted a “common patriotic ground of comprehensiveness and avowed (or maintain) Christian principles.” He wrote the textbook First Lessons in Christian Morals which was published in 1871. Ryerson clearly said that the Ontario school system was to be a “Christian public school system.”

Many of our greatest Canadian universities were founded as denominational seminaries to educate future church leaders:.........."

CCHeritage - The Facts Library

One of the biggest mistakes Canada is making is trying to move itself away from its Christian heritage.  We see the consequences of that in many areas such as law and order for one.  It seems to be the daily routine for people to attack other people in the cities, Toronto subway, etc.  The liberal justice system is just a revolving door that arrests dangerous, repeat offenders and releases them the same day.  Liberals seem to have no shame over the endless attacks by these criminals they let out on the streets.  That is only one area which is a result of the drifting away from our Judeo-Christian heritage.  The education system is another where they now teach sexual orientation and gender identity ideology and left wing political brainwashing.

 

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[Guest]

2 hours ago, blackbird said:

Whether one believes the Bible or not, Western civilization is largely founded upon the heritage of Judeo-Christian civilization or Biblical principles.

The American Constitution leans heavily that way.

"When our nation’s Founding Fathers gave us documents such as the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and others, they had to lean upon a common understanding of law, government, social order, and morality.  That understanding sprang from the common acceptance of what has come to be known as our Judeo-Christian Heritage.

Our Judeo-Christian Heritage is the system of values that originates in the Old and New Testaments of the Holy Bible – specifically, the Ten Commandments in the Old Testament and The Sermon on the Mount in the New Testament.

....Anyone who examines the original writings, personal correspondence, biographies, and public statements of the individuals who were instrumental in the founding of America, will find an abundance of quotations showing the profound extent to which their thinking was influenced by a Biblical Worldview. "

If you want to read about these seven principles, go to:

The 7 Principles of our Judeo-Christian Heritage | Beyond Positive Thinking

Canada was similarly built on a Christian heritage.

"The Laws of The Land

In 1960, Prime Minister John Diefenbaker introduced the Canadian Bill of Rights. It begins with, “The Parliament of Canada, affirming that the Canadian Nation is founded upon principles that acknowledge the supremacy of God…” The Canadian Bill of Rights can be found here.

In 1981, Pierre Elliott Trudeau signed his name to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. The Charter begins with, “Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God and the rule of the law.” The Charter of Rights and Freedoms can be found here."

"The Education System

Egerton Ryerson, father of public education in Canada, wanted a “common patriotic ground of comprehensiveness and avowed (or maintain) Christian principles.” He wrote the textbook First Lessons in Christian Morals which was published in 1871. Ryerson clearly said that the Ontario school system was to be a “Christian public school system.”

Many of our greatest Canadian universities were founded as denominational seminaries to educate future church leaders:.........."

CCHeritage - The Facts Library

One of the biggest mistakes Canada is making is trying to move itself away from its Christian heritage.  We see the consequences of that in many areas such as law and order for one.  It seems to be the daily routine for people to attack other people in the cities, Toronto subway, etc.  The liberal justice system is just a revolving door that arrests dangerous, repeat offenders and releases them the same day.  Liberals seem to have no shame over the endless attacks by these criminals they let out on the streets.  That is only one area which is a result of the drifting away from our Judeo-Christian heritage.  The education system is another where they now teach sexual orientation and gender identity ideology and left wing political brainwashing.

 

It's not a mistake.  All countries laws should be based on secular principles without any regard for religion at all.   That's why we don't have laws against coveting, idolatry, adultery, dishonouring one's Mum and Dad, lying, working on a weekend, taking the Lord's name in vain or worshiping whichever God you want, including the Flying Spaghetti Monster.  We eat whatever we want, worship whoever want, wear whatever we want, have sex with whoever we want, and marry whoever we want.  And then, if we want, we divorce them.

No-one cares what any God said, except those who choose to do so.

The only nod to our Christian Heritage involves stealing and killing, and we figured that out for ourselves.

The American Constitution makes a point of separating the Church and State.  The U.S. does seem to be backsliding into a more primitive society where lawmakers seek to restrict people's personal freedom based on religion, but we can hope that saner heads prevail.

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[CITIZEN_2015]

1 hour ago, bcsapper said:

It's not a mistake.  All countries laws should be based on secular principles without any regard for religion at all.  

Very true. A secular society is an advanced society. A religious one is making the life for its believers a hell on the promise of a heaven.

[blackbird]

2 hours ago, bcsapper said:

All countries laws should be based on secular principles without any regard for religion at all.

Sadly you demonstrate your complete darkness and tunnel vision.

The fact that you even have a Parliamentary system, democracy, fundamental freedoms such as freedom of speech and all other freedoms is because our system developed from Judeo-Christian heritage over 2,000 years.  Most of the world does not have the freedoms we have.  Most are authoritarian dictatorships in Russia, China, Middle East, and Africa.   These countries do not have the basic freedoms you have because they never evolved from Judeo-Christian societies.

Western countries like Europe, Australia, New Zealand, U.S.A., Canada and some other countries have democracy and basic freedoms.  You will notice these are the countries that have Judeo-Christians heritage.  The Christian principles came from Israel and spread to Europe first.  Then Europeans settled the other western countries I mentioned and the same democracies and freedoms developed in these countries.

This should be simple and clear to understand.  There is no doubt the western countries have freedoms that simply don't exist in much of the rest of the world.  Anybody who denies this must be in deep ignorance or denial.

There are many ignorant people in Canada, America and other western countries who somehow have believe the Devil and think Socialism, liberalism (everyone do your own thing) and progressivism with its sexual orientation is teaching children perversion and brainwashing society into thinking it is freedom somehow to go against the way God created man.  That is not freedom.  Things against the basic family structure and respect for God and his teachings is not freedom.  It is anarchy and destruction of society.  Canada is still fortunate it has a certain degree of freedom and Christian principles written into laws and respect for the rights of the individual.  But there are forces at work who want to take freedom away and impose authoritarianism and their view of the world.

Mass immigration from heathen countries is bringing with it anti-Christian ideas and anti-freedom ideology.

[Guest]

19 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Sadly you demonstrate your complete darkness and tunnel vision.

 

Oh, don't talk wet. 

Today's western society was dragged from a kicking, screaming and gouging religion and it took centuries.  We're better off without your bloody God, and we'd be better off without everyone else's bloody God too.

[blackbird]

1 minute ago, bcsapper said:

We're better off without your bloody God, and we'd be better off without everyone else's bloody God too.

You just prove what I said.  

You don't understand anything about God and the Bible.  Unfortunately when I try to explain it, you just ignore it or reject it outright. 

Do you know how you come across?

Like some kind of heathen in a jungle somewhere.

 

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, blackbird said:

You just prove what I said.  

You don't understand anything about God and the Bible.  Unfortunately when I try to explain it, you just ignore it or reject it outright. 

Do you know how you come across?

Like some kind of heathen in a jungle somewhere.

 

My previous post stands.  The jungle is yours.  And thankfully, it's shrinking.

[blackbird]

44 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

My previous post stands.  The jungle is yours.  And thankfully, it's shrinking.

Instead of getting into tantrums, why don't we discuss things rationally.  I am pretty sure the Devil loves people to throw tantrums and throw books and furniture around the room.  It is better to keep cool and speak with reason.

I would suggest to read some books on the subject of Christianity and civilization.   

One good book is "The Right Side of History",  How Reason and Moral Purpose Made the West Great by Ben Shapiro.

He says in the inside cover "Human beings have never had it better than we have it now in the West.  So why are we on the verge of throwing it all away?"

Do emotions matter more than rational debate?  Is the only meaning in life subjective and arbitrary he says?

The sooner we learn we are created in God's image, our bodies belong to him, and he created this world, the better off we will be.  The liberal secular idea that everyone should just do their own thing no matter what it is leads to anarchy and disaster, not to mention suicide, and mental illness which a large part of the population has.  

The solution to all these problems is God's written revelation.  Why don't we sit down, calm down, and give God a chance to speak through his written word, the KJV Bible?  

Our country is prosperous because it is built on law, order, Judeo-Christian principles, and in the past good governments to a large extent.  We are able to work, earn a living, build families, and have a good life.  Why would anyone want to throw that all away in the hope of building a better society on secularism?  It won't work that way.  God has blessed millions of people in the west.  They have more prosperity than the heathen nations ever dreamed.  The godless heathen nations are busy fighting each other and destroying what little they have.  Look at some African countries, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, Somalia, Haiti, etc.  Total anarchy.  They don't have principles to guide them.   They have lots of fighters who think they are fighting for god, but they are not. They don't have reason and moral laws.

 

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[Guest]

8 hours ago, blackbird said:

Instead of getting into tantrums, why don't we discuss things rationally.  I am pretty sure the Devil loves people to throw tantrums and throw books and furniture around the room.  It is better to keep cool and speak with reason.

I would suggest to read some books on the subject of Christianity and civilization.   

One good book is "The Right Side of History",  How Reason and Moral Purpose Made the West Great by Ben Shapiro.

He says in the inside cover "Human beings have never had it better than we have it now in the West.  So why are we on the verge of throwing it all away?"

Do emotions matter more than rational debate?  Is the only meaning in life subjective and arbitrary he says?

The sooner we learn we are created in God's image, our bodies belong to him, and he created this world, the better off we will be.  The liberal secular idea that everyone should just do their own thing no matter what it is leads to anarchy and disaster, not to mention suicide, and mental illness which a large part of the population has.  

The solution to all these problems is God's written revelation.  Why don't we sit down, calm down, and give God a chance to speak through his written word, the KJV Bible?  

Our country is prosperous because it is built on law, order, Judeo-Christian principles, and in the past good governments to a large extent.  We are able to work, earn a living, build families, and have a good life.  Why would anyone want to throw that all away in the hope of building a better society on secularism?  It won't work that way.  God has blessed millions of people in the west.  They have more prosperity than the heathen nations ever dreamed.  The godless heathen nations are busy fighting each other and destroying what little they have.  Look at some African countries, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, Somalia, Haiti, etc.  Total anarchy.  They don't have principles to guide them.   They have lots of fighters who think they are fighting for god, but they are not. They don't have reason and moral laws.

 

Sigh, there is no devil.  There is no God.  There are only people.  Some are gullible, some not so much. 

I'm sorry you need that crutch.

But as with all such conversations, it eventually boils down to a binary position from which there is no bending. So for now, as always, you can have the last word.

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[Michael Hardner]

9 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

 I'm sorry you need that crutch.

The real crutch is that they feel that they need to be superior to other religions because they do a "proper" reading of their Holy Books.   The others aren't capable of that, you see.  (This is their own words btw)

[WestCanMan]

17 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Why should I care ?  Here's the final answer: I don't.  

So you finally got to the point in the debate where every leftist has to choose between lying, dodging, switching to ad hominem attacks or straw man arguments, or playing stupid, etc, and you opted not to lie. Kudos.

In case you really don't understand, I'll spell this out for you:

If children grow up with a ballerina as a leader a lot of them will do ballet. If they have a sculptor as a leader a lot of them will eventually make statues. If they have a violent religious bigot and a genocidal psychopath as a leader they're not going to do ballet or make sculptures. They'll be violent religious bigots and after they do the deed they'll be quite content with it.

Eg, the western world feels a lot of guilt over Hitler's genocide, Stalin's genocide, and slavery, but look around. How many muslims talk about the Armenian genocide? The genocides in Pakistan? Their prophet's slave ownership? His massacres? They don't. They don't care. 

If you counted all the people who died in all the wars involving Israel, in most of which they were attacked, there are approximately 100,000 dead people.

FYI Pakistan was created the same way just 9 months earlier. They've already got two genocides under their belt, both killing millions of people. They even use systemic genocidal rape as a form of ethnic cleansing (the hijab is a tool for identifying victims). Violent religious bigotry is still their national pastime. When was the last time that you ever heard a muslim say a sentence that looked like this: "Pakistan is so [insert word that means 'bad' here]!" You don't. Ever. They literally never do. They 100% accept Pakistan as a stable democracy and a pillar of the international community. Israel on the other hand is still an abomination to them and if Israelis are forced into the sea the vast majority of them will all sleep quite well - the rest will remain silent for their own good. 

Oh, and slave ownership? White slavers can't hold a candle to muslim slavers. We didn't own 1/10th the slaves they did, and they never abolished slavery when they had the chance. We did. I personally don't feel even 1% shame for my ancestors' part in slavery. It was normal, then we ended it. You're welcome.

[WestCanMan]

19 hours ago, bcsapper said:

It's not what Jesus did, and it's not what Mohammad did.  And neither book has any credibility.  Both are works of fiction written by people who wanted to control other people. 

No one denies the existence of Jesus, it's a matter of whether he had a cult following, he was a prophet or he was the son of God. 

No one denies the existence of mohammed, it's just a matter of whether he had a cult following or he was a prophet or he was the most significant of all prophets that's up for debate. 

Jesus and mohammed are the biggest influencers in the history of the world. One of them was a violent religious bigot who inspires violent religious bigotry to this day. 

Say what you will, those are all facts. 

[blackbird]

2 hours ago, bcsapper said:

Sigh, there is no devil.  There is no God.  There are only people.  Some are gullible, some not so much. 

I'm sorry you need that crutch.

But as with all such conversations, it eventually boils down to a binary position from which there is no bending. So for now, as always, you can have the last word.

The truth of the Devil named Satan and an almighty God scares you I guess.  Fear is a natural consequence of sin because you know deep down I could be right and you will be held accountable for your behavior at some point.  That is why God sent his Son, Jesus Christ into the world to die for the sins of mankind.  He was very merciful to have his Son suffer and die for sinful mankind.  It is the only lifeline that exists.  You call it a crutch, but without it your destination is hell.  Some crutch.   Its your decision what you want to believe and whether you will accept Him as your Savior and Lord or continue to reject the truth as stated in the Holy Bible.

" 16  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17  For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18  He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19  And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20  For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. {reproved: or, discovered} 21  But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. "  Gospel of John 3:16-21 KJV

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[Guest]

32 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

No one denies the existence of Jesus, it's a matter of whether he had a cult following, he was a prophet or he was the son of God. 

No one denies the existence of mohammed, it's just a matter of whether he had a cult following or he was a prophet or he was the most significant of all prophets that's up for debate. 

Jesus and mohammed are the biggest influencers in the history of the world. One of them was a violent religious bigot who inspires violent religious bigotry to this day. 

Say what you will, those are all facts. 

I never denied their existence.  You obviously didn't read the whole post.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, bcsapper said:

I never denied their existence.  You obviously didn't read the whole post.

You're underestimating the depth of the problem with islamophobia - there's no such thing as islamophobia. It's every bit as bad as advertised.

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Islamophobia, to me, is when someone looks at a Muslim and says, "you are the problem", without knowing the individual.

Islamophobia, to me, is not looking at Islam and saying "you are the problem".

We all know that Nazis were bad. We all know how bad it is to support Naziism (unless of course it's in the Ukrainian army for some reason).

If people wear swastikas we say "They're supporting Naziism, and that's bad!", right? And what is wearing the hijab if not supporting misogyny, violent religious bigotry, and systemic genocidal rape, etc? 

Wearing a hijab is showing support for the Iranian gov't whipping women and jailing them for decades. It's showing support for the taliban shooting at girls on their way to school. It's showing support for islamic state's butchery in Iraq and Syria. It's standing in solidarity with the Pakistani militias who carried out their duty to rape women who weren't muslim. At least 300,000 of them in 1971 alone. FYI those aren't "I said he could go to 3rd base but he stole home" rapes, those are "door kicked in, raped by a bunch of violent bigots in your own home, in front of your family" rapes. People convert to a different religion or flee their country after those rapes.

The absence of a hijab is a really great way to pick out important rape victims in Pakistan and a lot of other places. Today. Hundreds of millions of women woke up today knowing know that they will be harassed, beaten, raped, or jailed if they don't wear the hijab. It's so evil that it makes the swastika look like a child's toy. 

If wearing a hijab was mainly an act of faith, and it was rarely a tool for systemic genocidal rape and all of those other things, then I'd feel like it was just a reflection of one's own religious conscience, but it's not that at all. All across the ME and far east the hijab is primarily a tool for religious discrimination.