Why are democrats lying about officers being killed on January 6th?

[West]

15 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Prove it. 

Prove five cops were killed by rioters  

The only people I see died were four protesters (one unarmed protester murdered by the cops, one who had cardiac arrest not related to injury, one who died after too much alcohol consumption) and one officer who died of a stroke a few days later with no apparent injuries from the protest.  

So it's a lie to say they were all officers even if you believe the lie that the officer was hit in the head with a fire extinguisher (he wasn't and his looney tune lefty doctor even admits as such)

Edited January 8, 2023 by West

[Nationalist]

4 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

What an incredibly moronic response. You can also "visit" the White House. Breaking in when it's closed is a different story.

It's the peoples' house.!

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

A traitor shot in the act of trying to violently overthrow the government and end democracy in America is a weird farking character to rally around. 

As a parent, I feel human sympathy for this woman's loss. But it certainly doesn't give her a license to block the road. 

AP News

Witthoeft and others were walking on a street near the Capitol when police, who had formed a line to keep them from going farther, directed them to get out of the road, officials said.

Video shared on social media shows police repeatedly warning the group to move to the sidewalk or be arrested. Witthoeft then turned around with her hands behind her back and was taken into custody.

 

^^calling *this* the straw that broke the camel's back is about the snowflakiest damn thing ever. She's not a victim. Just get out of the road and onto the damn sidewalk!  I think it's pretty obvious where her daughter got her smarts. You people have an enormous sense of entitlement. 

 

 

"A traitor" who served in the US military...did you ever serve anyone but yourself?

[suds]

17 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Have you not read the Eastman memo or learned of Trump's plans to seize and remain in power? The fake electors? He followed it up quite recently with public statements about the need to suspend the constitution to put him back in power. There isn't really much to debate here. It's all there in plain black and white. The goals are objectively stated.

True, the insurrectionists are just one piece of the effort, but lynching Pence or Pelosi (#2 and #3 in the order of succession) is not trivial. 

Whether you are a supreme court justice, federal employee, national guard, or regular military, the first thing mentioned when taking your oath is to defend and protect the constitution. Obeying the orders of the POTUS may be secondary in some cases, but the orders can't be unconstitutional. You can't defend the constitution and then be forced to obey unconstitutional orders. So how would this insurrection work without having the military and justices in your back pocket? Usually in most cases these would be the first requirements.

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Ya...you'd wanna close the proceedings to the public, while you complete your crime.

NOTHING criminal about counting the EC votes AS REQUIRED by the Constitution. ^More delusion from YOU.

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, West said:

You are a disgusting person. We get it yiu want conservatives dead

You're LYING. I want insurrectionists INTENT ON STOPPING the peaceful transfer of power dead IF they employ violence to STOP IT.

[Hodad]

17 minutes ago, West said:

Prove five cops were killed by rioters  

The only people I see died were four protesters (one unarmed protester murdered by the cops, one who had cardiac arrest not related to injury, one who died after too much alcohol consumption) and one officer who died of a stroke a few days later with no apparent injuries from the protest.  

So it's a lie to say they were all officers even if you believe the lie that the officer was hit in the head with a fire extinguisher (he wasn't and his looney tune lefty doctor even admits as such)

A. You claimed that Jeffries lied. The burden is on your to support that claim.

B. The events of the day caused lasting damage leading to suicide. PTSD is no joke, and suicides resulting from it can even be classified as "in the line of duty." https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/january-6-dc-police-jeffrey-smith-riots-suicide/

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

Speaking of stuff they don't tell you. Nikki Babbitt, Ashley Babbit's mother has been in Washington since August protesting outside the jail. 

They knew who she was. They knew what she was doing there. They took her away and charged her for Jaywalking.

Blocking traffic AFTER refusing to move; NOT jaywalking.

Anyone else would be charged just the same.

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

Who knows why cops commit suicide. they didn't all commit suicide "days after" Jan 6. At least one was the following month. 

The first one was sleep deprived 3 days after though.

PTSD? Maybe. Maybe he felt guilt for all the underhanded crap the police were up to that day. Who knows. Cops commit suicide. It happens.

But great diversionary save for bringing in events that don't fall under the claim in the thread title, R&R. That is still a lie. And those that push it are still liars.

IF you believe asking a question is lying, you're delusional.

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, West said:

I know of one guy who had a stroke a few days after who they count in the total and another guy who committed suicide. They never suffered injury on Jan 6th.. 

Just left loons being lefty loons

Thing is, you weren't there and are LYING ABOUT their injuries ANYWAY. 

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, suds said:

Again we have this repeated nonsense (more lies) of Jan 6th being an 'insurrection' or an 'attempted overthrow of government'.  The Select Committee's Jan 6th report doesn't refer to it in those terms because it's totally inaccurate. Instead they use terms such as 'the attack on the United States Capitol', or 'the obstruction of the peaceful transfer of power'. The committee asks the question.... 'what if Trump's mob had succeeded in stopping us from doing our job?'  I don't know, you tell me. In my opinion the protesters could have occupied every square inch of the Capitol and it would have changed absolutely nothing except delay the proceedings (which it did manage to do). US case law defines 'insurrection' as when a movement acts to overthrow the constituted government, seizing its powers, and taking possession of its inherent powers. At the very least, those involved in the takeover would have to be recognized as the new government by the military's chain of command. How likely would that be? Yet here we go again with this insurrection nonsense which even the fake news media clings on to. Trump did play a part in Jan 6, but remains for the courts to decide. Trump in my opinion is no political animal. He lacks the political smarts to weigh the consequences of his actions and is why he should never again hold office. Many like his policies but not his character or political judgement. It might be best for everyone to move on.

Obstruction of the transfer of power as determined by the election IS insurrection.

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, West said:

Lefties claim 5 cops DIED which is a flat out LIE

It is NOT a LIE if they suffered FATAL injuries that day. AKA died as a RESULT.

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Aristides said:

No they didn't but carry on.

Don't encourage his LIES and DELUSIONS.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Infidel Dog said:

One more time until you hear. She didn't go through. There's no proof she ever planned to go through. Last video shows her standing on something leaning through. It's just as likely she was blocking the window or yelling through it to the guards on the other side about what was going on in the entrance. 

Go ahead prove me wrong. Show me a video where she has a leg through the window. You can't. It doesn't exist.

You don't actually know what was going through her head. I don't either but you need to stop pretending you do. It's a lie.

She had no reason to stand on something unless she was planning to go through the window.

[CrakHoBarbie]

29 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

It's the peoples' house.!

Are you really so stupid that you believe you can legally enter the Capital any time because it's the people's house?

[robosmith]

3 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Are you really so stupid that you believe you can legally enter the Capital any time because it's the people's house?

He really is stupid enough to try to apply his OWN DEFINITION to a meme and believes it is a legitimate argument. LMAO

[West]

9 minutes ago, robosmith said:

It is NOT a LIE if they suffered FATAL injuries that day. AKA died as a RESULT.

Except that NEVER f'ing happened . 

 

You folks are such vile individuals making up fake bs for politics.. just like the garbage collusion bs you lie again.. 

[West]

14 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Thing is, you weren't there and are LYING ABOUT their injuries ANYWAY. 

No I'm going based on reports you dolt.  Only the lunatics lefties are lying about people getting killed. You people really are warped

[suds]

13 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Obstruction of the transfer of power as determined by the election IS insurrection.

Ok, I'll bite.  Where did you get that tidbit of information from?

[WestCanMan]

23 hours ago, Rebound said:

OMG, would you look at that sprotsfans?

It's a leftist pretending to care about the lives of cops for one day. 

What are those evil pieces of crap trying to gain from feigning concern? 

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Hodad said:

A traitor shot in the act of trying to violently overthrow the government and end democracy in America is a weird farking character to rally around. 

1) The dumbest half of America rallied around Michael Brown after he tried to kill a cop and I don't even have to ask, because I know for certain that you were part of that dipshit horde.

2) How stupid does one have to be to believe that a handful of people tried to "violently overthrow the US gov't without so much as a single gun or a knife"?

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds, it's only rivalled by your lack of intelligence.

[Hodad]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

1) The dumbest half of America rallied around Michael Brown after he tried to kill a cop and I don't even have to ask, because I know for certain that you were part of that dipshit horde.

2) How stupid does one have to be to believe that a handful of people tried to "violently overthrow the US gov't without so much as a single gun or a knife"?

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds, it's only rivalled by your lack of intelligence.

Do you have ADHD? Why the hell are you bringing up Michael Brown? Talk about non sequitur.

And you're lying. There were obviously "found" weapons employed, but also people in the mob armed with guns. Several are doing time for it already- and who knows how many others since they weren't arrested on site. 

And somehow I don't think that you being factually wrong about this will sway your opinion one iota. Facts don't seem to matter to you at all when they are inconvenient to your political narrative. 

I'm sure the world seems fuzzy and muffled with your head so deep in Trump's nether regions, but those of us on the outside see these people for what they are--and it's not enthusiastic tourists.

Vice

Mark Andre Mazza, a rioter who drove up from Indiana, brought a .45-caliber revolver to the riots. While on the grounds, Mazza assaulted a police officer and somehow along the way dropped his firearm. Mazza later told investigators that he was looking for then Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and authorities would "be here for a different reason” if he had found her. Mazza was sentenced to 60 months after pleading guilty to assaulting a police officer and carrying a pistol without a license. 

 

[Hodad]

2 hours ago, suds said:

Whether you are a supreme court justice, federal employee, national guard, or regular military, the first thing mentioned when taking your oath is to defend and protect the constitution. Obeying the orders of the POTUS may be secondary in some cases, but the orders can't be unconstitutional. You can't defend the constitution and then be forced to obey unconstitutional orders. So how would this insurrection work without having the military and justices in your back pocket? Usually in most cases these would be the first requirements.

That's why it's called a "constitutional crisis." Nobody knows exactly what would have happened if they had executed the Eastman plan successfully. But if Mike Pence hadn't suddenly discovered his backbone we would have found out.

What does the average soldier do when the sitting POTUS and CIC seizes power again and the new POTUS is not sworn in? Who would they follow?

But, frankly, even just entertaining these hypotheticals is minimizing and normalizing an attempted coup. The odds of long-term success aren't even really relevant here. The problem is that they farking tried it. They literally, actually tried it. And it's bullshit to give them a pass just because it didn't work.

[West]

28 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Do you have ADHD? Why the hell are you bringing up Michael Brown? Talk about non sequitur.

And you're lying. There were obviously "found" weapons employed, but also people in the mob armed with guns. Several are doing time for it already- and who knows how many others since they weren't arrested on site. 

And somehow I don't think that you being factually wrong about this will sway your opinion one iota. Facts don't seem to matter to you at all when they are inconvenient to your political narrative. 

I'm sure the world seems fuzzy and muffled with your head so deep in Trump's nether regions, but those of us on the outside see these people for what they are--and it's not enthusiastic tourists.

Vice

Mark Andre Mazza, a rioter who drove up from Indiana, brought a .45-caliber revolver to the riots. While on the grounds, Mazza assaulted a police officer and somehow along the way dropped his firearm. Mazza later told investigators that he was looking for then Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and authorities would "be here for a different reason” if he had found her. Mazza was sentenced to 60 months after pleading guilty to assaulting a police officer and carrying a pistol without a license. 

 

People have been locked away for two years in solitary confinement WITHOUT A TRIAL DATE. That's the left wing justice system the dumbest half of the US love

[Hodad]

1 hour ago, West said:

People have been locked away for two years in solitary confinement WITHOUT A TRIAL DATE. That's the left wing justice system the dumbest half of the US love

Yes, a handful of violent traitors were not granted bail. Fark 'em.

Most got bail though, only the worst didn't.