Moonbox Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 3 hours ago, CdnFox said: Kid, I am almost never wrong. When I am I admit it. You are almost never right. Wow. Here we have yet another useless emoji-spazz rant (this one your limp personal fantasy on how you imagine/wished our past debates have gone) and you cap it off with that utterly infantile quote. You weren't done there though, oh no. You sat there seething in your basement for the next three hours, and came back to pound out yet another worthless tirade three hours later when I hadn't responded. 🤣👌 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
CdnFox Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 50 minutes ago, Moonbox said: Wow. Here we have yet another useless emoji-spazz rant (this one your limp personal fantasy on how you imagine/wished our past debates have gone) and you cap it off with that utterly infantile quote. Wow. Here we have another hissy fit whining about simple truths that his fragile ego can't cope with Kid - you are consistently wrong. Again and again. As i've noted you have a bad habit of picking fights for the sake of it without thinking and very quickly paint yourself into a corner. But as usual you want it to be my fault for bringing it up Quote You weren't done there though, oh no. You sat there seething in your basement for the next three hours, and came back to pound out yet another worthless tirade three hours later when I hadn't responded. LOL - oh noes - triggered leftie is triggered I've told you before kid, i frequently think back and laugh my ass off at some of your antics You're hilarious, the entertainment value you provide is worth it alone But i love that you're now having weird fantasies about me sitting in a basement and such ROFLMAO - once again we know who's living in who's head rent free Was... was that too long for you little guy? 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
WestCanMan Posted May 31, 2024 Author Report Posted May 31, 2024 https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/11/health/moderna-bivalent-transparency/index.html CNN — Some vaccine advisers to the federal government say they’re “disappointed” and “angry” that government scientists and the pharmaceutical company Moderna didn’t present a set of infection data on the company’s new Covid-19 booster during meetings last year when the advisers discussed whether the shot should be authorized and made available to the public. That data suggested the possibility that the updated booster might not be any more effective at preventing Covid-19 infections than the original shots. Wait, what? That last part???? That data suggested the possibility that the updated booster might not be any more effective at preventing Covid-19 infections than the original shots. So they're saying that if they knew that the latest round of shots wasn't any more effective at preventing covid than the original shots, they might not have gotten authorized.... A lot of us knew that they were lying about vax efficacy back in 2021, but for them to come right out and say that "the latest drug wouldn't have been approved if they knew that it was going to be as ineffective as the first round of jabs" really drives home the point of how much we were being lied to, back when our gov't was forcing young people to take it. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
Goddess Posted May 31, 2024 Report Posted May 31, 2024 11 hours ago, WestCanMan said: https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/11/health/moderna-bivalent-transparency/index.html CNN — Some vaccine advisers to the federal government say they’re “disappointed” and “angry” that government scientists and the pharmaceutical company Moderna didn’t present a set of infection data on the company’s new Covid-19 booster during meetings last year when the advisers discussed whether the shot should be authorized and made available to the public. That data suggested the possibility that the updated booster might not be any more effective at preventing Covid-19 infections than the original shots. Wait, what? That last part???? That data suggested the possibility that the updated booster might not be any more effective at preventing Covid-19 infections than the original shots. So they're saying that if they knew that the latest round of shots wasn't any more effective at preventing covid than the original shots, they might not have gotten authorized.... A lot of us knew that they were lying about vax efficacy back in 2021, but for them to come right out and say that "the latest drug wouldn't have been approved if they knew that it was going to be as ineffective as the first round of jabs" really drives home the point of how much we were being lied to, back when our gov't was forcing young people to take it. The boosters were authorized on the basis of the purported efficacy of the original shots. Basically, they went with "Well, the first shots were great, so these ones must be, too." Boosters were tested on 8 mice and antibodies were detected. As I've said before - antibodies are only a small part of the entire immune system. You can inject pink lemonade and develop antibodies. It's not an indication of immunity. I went over the booster information in the Trickle thread when they first came out. There's a huge issue with the titers. There are no RCT trials. There are a lot of doctors on social media leading the charge to refuse any further boosters until RCTs are done. It's been long enough, years, the trials and testing need to be done properly. 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
WestCanMan Posted May 31, 2024 Author Report Posted May 31, 2024 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Goddess said: The boosters were authorized on the basis of the purported efficacy of the original shots. Basically, they went with "Well, the first shots were great, so these ones must be, too." "The day, the sciiiiiiience... died. And they were singin': Bye - bye miss American pie. Drove my Civic to the clinic but the Dr was bribed. Them good ol' boys were drinkin' whiskey 'n rye singing this will be the day that young healthy people will die from being forced to take bogus medication that they don't need or want by the Canadian and US governments." Edited May 31, 2024 by WestCanMan Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
Goddess Posted June 3, 2024 Report Posted June 3, 2024 It’s taken multiple FOIA lawsuits, but new, newly disclosed NIH data shows the agency and its scientists collected an eye-watering $710 million in royalties, just during the pandemic, between late 2021 and the end of 2023. Up till now, the NIH refused to say how much in royalties its taxpayer-compensated scientists have earned, insisting there’s no law requiring them to disclose that, and citing public servants’ privacy (even though you had to disclose your jab status to buy a cheeseburger). So, the very same people pushing jabs, lauding their safety and efficacy, and helping justify vaccine mandates, passports, and databases were raking it in the whole time, laughing all the way to the bank, earning multiples of their government-approved salaries in covid shot royalties. No wonder they tried to bury it. The burden of proof has now shifted. The NIH must now convincingly demonstrate that it was not acting improperly, and did not let its financial incentives influence its scientific judgments and public health policies. If NIH can’t prove that, it deserves the harshest possible sanction, especially given the life-and-death stakes. But the scandal also raises essential questions about whether NIH scientists should receive royalties in the first place. I mean, what are we paying these people to do? If a scientist worked for a private boss, guess who gets the royalties for whatever the employee scientist invents? The boss does. That’s why he hired the scientist in the first place. Duh. So why are NIH scientists entitled to royalties? Why aren’t NIH royalties paid back to the public treasury, since the taxpayers are the boss in this scenario? The disclosure of nearly a billion dollars in jab royalties shared by a couple hundred well-connected NIH government scientists exposes an unholy symbiosis between a captured agency and the industry it regulates, a shadow system tirelessly working behind a public façade, extracting wealth and freedom from duped citizens. The pandemic response, with its dire combination of corporate profiteering, administrative overreach, and the suppression of dissent, has exposed the workings of this infernal machine in stark detail. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. NIH scientists made $710M in royalties from drug makers, a fact they tried to hide (nypost.com) 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Goddess Posted June 3, 2024 Report Posted June 3, 2024 @Venandi Here is some info on the p53 - the tumor suppressor protein that may lead to increased incidences of aggressive cancers: 1. S2 subunit of SARS-nCoV-2 interacts with tumor suppressor protein p53 and BRCA: an in silico study - ScienceDirect 2. SARS-CoV-2 spike S2 subunit inhibits p53 activation of p21(WAF1), TRAIL Death Receptor DR5 and MDM2 proteins in cancer cells | bioRxiv The scientists set out to determine if the S2 component of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein interacts with a tumor suppressor protein called p53. This particular protein is called the ‘guardian of the genome’ for its important role in DNA damage response and repair. The authors found that S2 had a suppressive effect on p53, which suggests that “the SARS-CoV-2 spike causes an altered DNA damage sensing and repair response in cancer cells.” This finding “provides a potential molecular mechanism by which SARS-CoV-2 infection may impact tumorigenesis, tumor progression and chemotherapy sensitivity.” In other words, a component of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein can lead to the development of tumors and may inhibit positive effects of cancer therapeutics. 3. Rubio_Casillas_Methylpseudouridine_Promotes_Cancer_Wow_2024.pdf The above study was behind a paywall, but I found it in PDF. The authors were pressured to retract it, but it does agree with the findings from the other papers. 4. SARS-CoV-2 Spike Impairs DNA Damage Repair and Inhibits V(D)J Recombination In Vitro - PubMed (nih.gov) This may have been the right scientific conclusion to draw at the wrong time. The paper was retracted in May 2022 under strange circumstances, a move that appeared to be politically motivated. Arkmedic covered this paper and the scandal surrounding its retraction in a post: (17) Welcome to Gilead - by Dr Ah Kahn Syed - Arkmedic's blog Here are 3 discussions on the subject of p53 activation: Dr. Jessica Rose: S2 of SARS-2 spike buggers up p53 - by Jessica Rose (substack.com) Dr. Peter McCullough: https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/breaking-new-manuscript-concludes?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email Professor of Oncology, Dr. Angus Dalgleish: The covid booster cancer time bomb - The Conservative Woman 1 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Goddess Posted June 3, 2024 Report Posted June 3, 2024 Here is a link to Dr. Jessica Rose's testimony at the NCI 2.0 hearings in Regina on May 30th. Dr. Jessica Rose - May 30, 2024 - Regina, Saskatchewan (rumble.com) 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Goddess Posted June 3, 2024 Report Posted June 3, 2024 Fauci is testifying at the Senate Subcommittee today. Tony Fauci to David Morens: Hey, Dave, see that bus coming? Morens: I sure do! Fauci: Good, cause I’m about to throw you under it. 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
WestCanMan Posted June 3, 2024 Author Report Posted June 3, 2024 25 minutes ago, Goddess said: Fauci is testifying at the Senate Subcommittee today. Tony Fauci to David Morens: Hey, Dave, see that bus coming? Morens: I sure do! Fauci: Good, cause I’m about to throw you under it. Wow, there sure were a lot of henchmen working for 'science' himself. Weird that it took years for all this to come out 🤔 It's like figuring out the origins of covid was unimportant, and like no one suspected that the Wuhan lab ever had anything to do with this (back when people were being kicked off the internet for talking about the Wuhan lab, while Fauci was selling us all red herring...) Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
eyeball Posted June 3, 2024 Report Posted June 3, 2024 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: Wow, there sure were a lot of henchmen working for 'science' himself What? I thought goddess reported that it was just a couple of psyop dudes. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
WestCanMan Posted June 3, 2024 Author Report Posted June 3, 2024 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: What? I thought goddess reported that it was just a couple of psyop dudes. No one gives a crap what you think. And why do you care what an "anti-vaxer" said? 🤣 (Am I bullying this guy? Should I let up? I really think he deserves it, but maybe enough is enough) Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
Goddess Posted June 3, 2024 Report Posted June 3, 2024 3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: (Am I bullying this guy? Should I let up? I really think he deserves it, but maybe enough is enough) He's here to heckle only. He has zero knowledge or insight and can't comprehend anything medical. All he can do is parrot CBC headlines from 3 years ago. He's not an intelligent man. 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
eyeball Posted June 3, 2024 Report Posted June 3, 2024 5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: No one gives a crap what you think. I'm taking about what goddess thinks. You don't give a crap about what she thinks? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted June 3, 2024 Report Posted June 3, 2024 1 minute ago, Goddess said: He's here to heckle only. I'm just questioning where you guys are coming from. You've maintained for years this whole virus/vaccine conspiracy was being pulled off by just a few people. WCM says it's a lot. Which is it? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Goddess Posted June 3, 2024 Report Posted June 3, 2024 A new large-scale study from renowned scientists at the prestigious University of Oxford has just confirmed that myocarditis and pericarditis only appear in children and adolescents after Covid vaccination and not after infection from the virus. The new study looked at the official government data of more than 1 million English children and adolescents aged between five and 11 and 12 and 15. The study compared vaccinated and unvaccinated subjects. The researchers also took into account the number of doses of vaccine received. Over half of the adolescents who suffered from the conditions visited the hospital as a result. OpenSAFELY: Effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccination in children and adolescents | medRxiv Quote Among both adolescents and children, myocarditis and pericarditis were documented only in the vaccinated groups, with rates of 27 and 10 cases/million after first and second doses respectively. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Goddess Posted June 3, 2024 Report Posted June 3, 2024 7 minutes ago, eyeball said: I'm just questioning where you guys are coming from. No, you're not. We both have multiple threads, full of links to data and medical studies, none of which you ever bother to read. You know where we're coming from. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
CdnFox Posted June 3, 2024 Report Posted June 3, 2024 1 minute ago, Goddess said: No, you're not. We both have multiple threads, full of links to data and medical studies, none of which you ever bother to read. You know where we're coming from. It is an annoying debate tactic for those on the left. Constantly demand that you repost the same information and data again and again. And if you refuse to play that game they'll insist you've never posted it. And if you dare repeat anything they say they want you to repost that 15 times as well and then they'll still demand that they never said it. It's frustrating trying to have a conversation with that going on. But I guess that's the point, they pull it out when they want to derail the conversation because it's not going the way they wanted 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
WestCanMan Posted June 3, 2024 Author Report Posted June 3, 2024 (edited) 33 minutes ago, eyeball said: I'm taking about what goddess thinks. You don't give a crap about what she thinks? Of course I do. She thinks that they are guys who worked for Fauci who are taking the fall for unscrupulous deed committed under his watch. Make no mistake though, Fauci is the one who went on TV and pretended that the bat-pangolin human theory was the only angle we should be looking at, he's the one who failed to disclose his knowledge of what went on in the Wuhan lab, he's the one who said "probably not transmissible H2H", etc, etc. Fauci is as culpable as Gatti and The Bull, only he's responsible for way more deaths. Luckily for him, the credibility of the dept's he worked in relies heavily on him not going down with the ship. That rat gets his own lifeboat, or series of lifeboats. Edited June 3, 2024 by WestCanMan Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
WestCanMan Posted June 3, 2024 Author Report Posted June 3, 2024 35 minutes ago, Goddess said: He's here to heckle only. He has zero knowledge or insight and can't comprehend anything medical. All he can do is parrot CBC headlines from 3 years ago. He's not an intelligent man. It's bizarre how many of those cultists there are. I'm sure that there were a dozen or more here, but Hodad, i-o, Boges, Moonbox, and ExFlyer are the only stark raving vaxtards that spring to mind. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
eyeball Posted June 3, 2024 Report Posted June 3, 2024 31 minutes ago, Goddess said: No, you're not. Yes I am, I'm still wondering how few or many people its taken to pull this off. 17 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Fauci is as culpable as Gatti and The Bull, only he's responsible for way more deaths. Luckily for him, the credibility of the dept's he worked in relies heavily on him not going down with the ship. That rat gets his own lifeboat, or series of lifeboats. It's almost like there's more people involved with the cover-up than the crime...killing millions for billions. It's not even a little bit unbelievable? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
WestCanMan Posted June 4, 2024 Author Report Posted June 4, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, eyeball said: It's almost like there's more people involved with the cover-up than the crime...killing millions for billions. It's not even a little bit unbelievable? There's absolutely no question that: Fauci funded GoF research on a coronavirus at the Wuhan lab Fauci told the world that covid came from a bat-pangolin-human interaction Fauci told the world that covid probably wasn't transmissible H2H Fauci told the world that the vaccines would be safe and effective Fauci discouraged any talk of treatment aside from the jabs Fauci talked about the jabs getting us to herd immunity Fauci overstated the efficacy and safety of the jabs after they came out - that formed the basis of the "keep the unjabbed locked up" insanity Fauci told the world that granny couldn't catch covid from you if you were vaxed Fauci said that people not vaxing were probably responsible for 200,00 to 300,000 extra deaths, which was a lie at the time he said it Even when it was known that the jabs were causing serious harm to healthy people, and that healthy people didn't need them, and people were known to still get sick and die from covid after taking the jab, vax-pimps pretended that the jabs were effective enough to warrant the harm they were doing to young, healthy people. Even when it was known that the jabs were causing serious harm to children, and that healthy children didn't need them, and people were known to still get sick and die from covid after taking the jab, vax-pimps pretended that the jabs were effective enough to warrant mass-jabbing children with them. Social media giants, members of TNI, blocked people from their sites for talking about the BSL4 lab Mainstream news outlets, members of TNI, all followed along in lock step with Fauci's narratives, every single day, without breaking ranks once. They acted like 15,000 deaths in 2020 was apocalyptic, they acted like 14,000 deaths in 2021 was apocalyptic, they ignored 19,000 deaths in 2022 and pretended that the jab saved us. I'm not telling you what to make of all that. For all I care you can take all that in and just consider it all a bunch of random, unrelated, and unfortunate covid facts. But it's an absolute thing that every single on that list happened exactly like I said it did. You form your own conspiracy, nutjob, just leave me out of it. Edited June 4, 2024 by WestCanMan Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
Goddess Posted June 4, 2024 Report Posted June 4, 2024 15 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Fauci told the world that the vaccines would be safe and effective Fauci discouraged any talk of treatment aside from the jabs Covid was not Fauci's first rodeo, but certainly the biggest. Read some of the books about his actions with regard to HIV/AIDS. He did the same thing with HIV that he did with covid. For AIDS, he dusted off a dangerous, but money-making drug that was sitting on the shelf - AZT - which ended up killing massive numbers of people. And he suppressed treatments that worked, like Bactrim. He got away with it then because nobody really cared about gays, so he used the same playbook for covid. Suppressed early treatments and drugs that worked at saving lives, in favour of expensive, money-making experimental injections. 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
WestCanMan Posted June 4, 2024 Author Report Posted June 4, 2024 16 minutes ago, Goddess said: Covid was not Fauci's first rodeo, but certainly the biggest. Read some of the books about his actions with regard to HIV/AIDS. He did the same thing with HIV that he did with covid. For AIDS, he dusted off a dangerous, but money-making drug that was sitting on the shelf - AZT - which ended up killing massive numbers of people. And he suppressed treatments that worked, like Bactrim. He got away with it then because nobody really cared about gays, so he used the same playbook for covid. Suppressed early treatments and drugs that worked at saving lives, in favour of expensive, money-making experimental injections. It's one of those things that you couldn't write into a fiction novel, because people would be unable to take it seriously. He's basically the devil in a labcoat. "Truth is stranger..." Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
Goddess Posted June 4, 2024 Report Posted June 4, 2024 (edited) 17 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: He's basically the devil in a labcoat. Celia Farber's book is one the best, describing what Fauci did regarding HIV. On April 23, 1984, in a packed press conference room in Washington, DC, the secretary of health and human services declared, “The probable cause of AIDS has been found.” By the next day, “probable” had fallen away, and the novel retrovirus later named HIV became forever lodged in global consciousness as “the AIDS virus.” Celia Farber, then an intrepid young reporter for SPIN magazine, was the only journalist to question the official narrative and dig into the science of AIDS. She reported on the “evidence” that was being continually cited and repeated by health officials and the press, the deadliness of AZT, and Dr. Fauci’s trials on children, infants, and pregnant mothers. Throughout, Faber’s reportage was largely ignored. She was maligned, maliciously attacked, and ultimately canceled. Now, forty years after her original reporting, Farber’s Serious Adverse Events: An Uncensored History of AIDS is reissued with a new foreword by Mark Crispin Miller, shining much-needed light on her groundbreaking work once again. More relevant than ever, this book serves as an essential foundation to understanding its catastrophic sequel: COVID-19. Serious Adverse Events makes clear that the tactics employed at the height of HIV/AIDS—the fearmongering, cancel culture, and “woke” takeover of science, medicine, and journalism—persist today. The response to COVID-19 isn’t new: it is a well-trod and dangerous path in the social landscape. Devil in a labcoat, indeed. Notice he experimented on "children, infants and pregnant women" - same as with the covid injections. This is morally and ethically WRONG. @eyeball staunch defense of it, is immoral. The fact that eyeball looks up to this man and thinks he's the "expert" we should follow and agrees with experimenting on children and pregnant women......pure evil. He's done the same thing to Africans - killed many children and young women with dangerous experimentation. Edited June 4, 2024 by Goddess 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
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