Is the GOP still a legitimate political party?

[robosmith]

49 minutes ago, reason10 said:

I just own the truth. That's not arrogance. Your sources are goose steppers. PERIOD.

Educated people who read that see the facts.

It is even more arrogant to claim it's not arrogance. Doubling down on arrogance is OWNING IT.

 

[TreeBeard]

6 hours ago, reason10 said:

Actually got that one from Ben Shapiro.

So you need to plagiarize rightwing talking heads to make a point on a forum?  Why not use your own words?

[Infidel Dog]

Enjoy your circle jerk little proggies.

Your response is coming on November 8th.

[TreeBeard]

1 hour ago, Infidel Dog said:

Enjoy your circle jerk little proggies.

Your response is coming on November 8th.

Are you unhappy that proggies have interrupted your conspiracy nutjob circle-jerk on this forum?

[Nationalist]

Such bald faced lies.

Hell Hilary-Billary still claims her defeat was because of a rigged election.

That fat bitch in Georgia still claims she's the rightful governor. 

Lies do not just magically become truth. That all you Libbies think otherwise could well exhibit your lack of education. 

Or...it could be that you all know you're lying and try to "make" it true. 

Either way...you're not being taken seriously. 

Edited October 24, 2022 by Nationalist

[Infidel Dog]

9 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Are you unhappy that proggies have interrupted your conspiracy nutjob circle-jerk on this forum?

Oh for God's sakes go back and read your little thread here again.

You're like a little clutter of clucking Commie wannabe hens quoting Progressive talking points from 'They' like they're the ten Commandments.

"Boo hoo. Woke is being  swept out the door. We can't inflict our 'equity' on the meanies of the right. The masters want to tear it all down and 'build back better but the mean Orange man won't let them."

I'm a free speech purist but sometimes even I want to say it. STFU will ya. I'm tired of listening to you belly ache.

Edited October 24, 2022 by Infidel Dog

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Such bald faced lies.

Hell Hilary-Billary still claims her defeat was because of a rigged election.

That fat bitch in Georgia still claims she's the rightful governor. 

Lies do not just magically become truth. That all you Libbies think otherwise could well exhibit your lack of education. 

Or...it could be that you all know you're lying and try to "make" it true. 

Either way...you're not being taken seriously. 

We're taken seriously enough that you KEEP posting ^these fantasies here. Over and over again. ?

It's like you're trying to convince YOURSELF cause you NEVER post ANY evidence.

Your OPINION will never convince anyone but the true believers.

[robosmith]

19 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

Oh for God's sakes go back and read your little thread here again.

You're like a little clutter of clucking Commie wannabe hens quoting Progressive talking points from 'They' like they're the ten Commandments.

"Boo hoo. Woke is being  swept out the door. We can't inflict our 'equity' on the meanies of the right. The masters want to tear it all down and 'build back better but the mean Orange man won't let them."

I'm a free speech purist but sometimes even I want to say it. STFU will ya. I'm tired of listening to you belly ache.

What goes around, comes around. If you're tired of "belly ache" STOP POSTING ^THEM.

[Nationalist]

16 minutes ago, robosmith said:

We're taken seriously enough that you KEEP posting ^these fantasies here. Over and over again. ?

It's like you're trying to convince YOURSELF cause you NEVER post ANY evidence.

Your OPINION will never convince anyone but the true believers.

Just evidence you do not wish be published, is all.

This site, and sites like it, are supposed to be forums for voicing our opinions...which we support by facts...which way too many simply ignore and call "fake news" or "RT" or whatever insult they can think of.

You loud and destructive Libbies have already lost the minds of most folks. Not really because they necessarily like the alternative, but simply because all your screaming and shaming and the general empty accusations you make...are nothing compared to the very real prospects the population now face as a direct result of Libbie ideals.

People are being hit where it counts by this Tweenkie revolution. In the wallet and in the arena of basic survival.

In other words...don't tell anyone but...

you already lost...ur just to poisoned to realize it.

Edited October 24, 2022 by Nationalist

[BeaverFever]

A growing number of prominent Republicans on the New Right, including the billionaire Big Tech Trump/MAGA donor and GOP puppet-master Peter Thiel, have given up on democracy entirely are calling for outright monarch-style authoritarian rule  

The New Right’s absolutely dystopian plan to destroy democracy and the rule of law and install one-man rule, “but don’t worry the new dictator’s gonna be a really great guy, super smart, and he’s gonna make life better for everyone!”

 

Curtis Yarvin wants American democracy toppled. He has some prominent Republican fans.

The New Right blogger has been cited by Blake Masters and J.D. Vance. What exactly is he advocating?
 

…

 

To Yarvin, incremental reforms and half-measures are necessarily doomed. The only way to achieve what he wants is to assume “absolute power,” and the game is all about getting to a place where you can pull that off. Critics have called his ideas “fascist” — a term he disputes, arguing that centralizing power under one ruler long predates fascism, and that his ideal monarch should rule for all rather than fomenting a class war as fascists do. “Autocratic” fits as a descriptor, though his preferred term is “monarchist.” You won’t find many on the right saying they wholly support Yarvin’s program — especially the “monarchy” thing — but his critique of the status quo and some of his ideas for changing it have influenced several increasingly prominent figures.

 

Besides Vance and Masters (whose campaigns declined to comment for this story), Yarvin has had a decade-long association with billionaire Peter Thiel, who is similarly disillusioned with democracy and American government. “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible,” Thiel wrote in 2009, and earlier this year, he declared that Republican members of Congress who voted for Trump’s impeachment after the January 6 attacks were “traitorous.” Fox host Tucker Carlson is another fan, interviewing Yarvin with some fascination for his streaming program last year. He’s even influenced online discourse — Yarvin was the first to popularize the analogy from The Matrix of being “redpilled” or “-pilled,” suddenly losing your illusions and seeing the supposed reality of the world more clearly, as applied to politics.

…

• Far preferable, in his view, would be a government run like most corporations — with one leader holding absolute power over those below, though perhaps accountable to a “board of directors” of sorts (he admits that “an unaccountable autocracy is a real problem”). This monarch/CEO would have the ability to actually run things, unbothered by pesky civil servants, judges, voters, the public, or the separation of powers. “How do we achieve effective management? We know one simple way: find the right person, and put him or her in charge,” he writes.

…For years, Yarvin was something of an odd internet curiosity, with his ideas far from most political conservatives’ radar. He gained one prominent reader — Thiel, who had written about his own disillusionment with democracy, became a Yarvin friend, and funded his startup. “He’s fully enlightened,” Yarvin later wrote of Thiel in an email, “just plays it very carefully.” (Thiel did not respond to a request for comment.) 

…,

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/23373795/curtis-yarvin-neoreaction-redpill-moldbug

[eyeball]

On 10/21/2022 at 8:06 PM, TreeBeard said:

I think a better question would be:  “is the USA a legitimate democracy”?

The erosion of democracy is what has led to a political party like the GOP.  

It's America's karma.  Probably for letting Winston Churchill talk them into overthrowing democracy in Iran in 1953.

What on Earth was the Shiniest Beacon for democracy on Earth thinking?  Oh right...commies.

Idiots.

[robosmith]

12 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Just evidence you do not wish be published, is all.

This site, and sites like it, are supposed to be forums for voicing our opinions...which we support by facts...which way too many simply ignore and call "fake news" or "RT" or whatever insult they can think of.

You loud and destructive Libbies have already lost the minds of most folks. Not really because they necessarily like the alternative, but simply because all your screaming and shaming and the general empty accusations you make...are nothing compared to the very real prospects the population now face as a direct result of Libbie ideals.

People are being hit where it counts by this Tweenkie revolution. In the wallet and in the arena of basic survival.

In other words...don't tell anyone but...

you already lost...ur just to poisoned to realize it.

No, your unsubstantiated opinions MEAN NOTHING, so it is you and those who post like you, who have LOST.

You're just too arrogant and stupid to understand YOUR LOGICAL FALLACY.

"That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence." Christopher Hitchens.

My opinion that you're wrong means just as much, or more, than any unsubstantiated opinion YOU POST.

IF you want to be taken seriously instead of just a joke, you need to post EVIDENCE.

 

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

A growing number of prominent Republicans on the New Right, including the billionaire Big Tech Trump/MAGA donor and GOP puppet-master Peter Thiel, have given up on democracy entirely are calling for outright monarch-style authoritarian rule  

The New Right’s absolutely dystopian plan to destroy democracy and the rule of law and install one-man rule, “but don’t worry the new dictator’s gonna be a really great guy, super smart, and he’s gonna make life better for everyone!”

 

Curtis Yarvin wants American democracy toppled. He has some prominent Republican fans.

The New Right blogger has been cited by Blake Masters and J.D. Vance. What exactly is he advocating?
 

…

 

To Yarvin, incremental reforms and half-measures are necessarily doomed. The only way to achieve what he wants is to assume “absolute power,” and the game is all about getting to a place where you can pull that off. Critics have called his ideas “fascist” — a term he disputes, arguing that centralizing power under one ruler long predates fascism, and that his ideal monarch should rule for all rather than fomenting a class war as fascists do. “Autocratic” fits as a descriptor, though his preferred term is “monarchist.” You won’t find many on the right saying they wholly support Yarvin’s program — especially the “monarchy” thing — but his critique of the status quo and some of his ideas for changing it have influenced several increasingly prominent figures.

 

Besides Vance and Masters (whose campaigns declined to comment for this story), Yarvin has had a decade-long association with billionaire Peter Thiel, who is similarly disillusioned with democracy and American government. “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible,” Thiel wrote in 2009, and earlier this year, he declared that Republican members of Congress who voted for Trump’s impeachment after the January 6 attacks were “traitorous.” Fox host Tucker Carlson is another fan, interviewing Yarvin with some fascination for his streaming program last year. He’s even influenced online discourse — Yarvin was the first to popularize the analogy from The Matrix of being “redpilled” or “-pilled,” suddenly losing your illusions and seeing the supposed reality of the world more clearly, as applied to politics.

…

• Far preferable, in his view, would be a government run like most corporations — with one leader holding absolute power over those below, though perhaps accountable to a “board of directors” of sorts (he admits that “an unaccountable autocracy is a real problem”). This monarch/CEO would have the ability to actually run things, unbothered by pesky civil servants, judges, voters, the public, or the separation of powers. “How do we achieve effective management? We know one simple way: find the right person, and put him or her in charge,” he writes.

…For years, Yarvin was something of an odd internet curiosity, with his ideas far from most political conservatives’ radar. He gained one prominent reader — Thiel, who had written about his own disillusionment with democracy, became a Yarvin friend, and funded his startup. “He’s fully enlightened,” Yarvin later wrote of Thiel in an email, “just plays it very carefully.” (Thiel did not respond to a request for comment.) 

…,

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/23373795/curtis-yarvin-neoreaction-redpill-moldbug

Apparently Theil and Yarvin are unfamiliar with the HISTORY or even the PRESENT (Putin) disastrous experience of fascist autocrats with unlimited power. We have CHECKS and BALANCES for a REASON. 

[Nationalist]

5 hours ago, robosmith said:

No, your unsubstantiated opinions MEAN NOTHING, so it is you and those who post like you, who have LOST.

You're just too arrogant and stupid to understand YOUR LOGICAL FALLACY.

"That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence." Christopher Hitchens.

My opinion that you're wrong means just as much, or more, than any unsubstantiated opinion YOU POST.

IF you want to be taken seriously instead of just a joke, you need to post EVIDENCE.

 

The last gasp effort of a prog.

Obama has even tried to tell you destructive oddballs...twice I believe. But not even the great mullato lord of hopey-changey can get through to you now.

So...I don't need your reverence or even your excuses. The Republican party has changed. It's now the party of MAGA. Of 'my nation first'. Of the people and FOR the people...of America. 

Not for Venezuela. 

Not for Saudi Arabia.

Not for Iran.

Not for China.

And certainly not for Ukraine. 

Enjoy the mid-terms.

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

The last gasp effort of a prog.

Obama has even tried to tell you destructive oddballs...twice I believe. But not even the great mullato lord of hopey-changey can get through to you now.

So...I don't need your reverence or even your excuses. The Republican party has changed. It's now the party of MAGA. Of 'my nation first'. Of the people and FOR the people...of America. 

Not for Venezuela. 

Not for Saudi Arabia.

Not for Iran.

Not for China.

And certainly not for Ukraine. 

Enjoy the mid-terms.

IF you believe ^this, you're an idiot.

EVEN IF Dems lose Congress, there is NOTHING "last gasp" about THAT.

No moderate is going to like Repugs wasting the next 2 years with investigations that like Benghazi, FOUND NOTHING WRONG.

We and Canada WORK WITH foreign nations for a REASON. Unfortunate that YOU CAN'T understand what that reason is.

[Nationalist]

19 minutes ago, robosmith said:

IF you believe ^this, you're an idiot.

EVEN IF Dems lose Congress, there is NOTHING "last gasp" about THAT.

No moderate is going to like Repugs wasting the next 2 years with investigations that like Benghazi, FOUND NOTHING WRONG.

We and Canada WORK WITH foreign nations for a REASON. Unfortunate that YOU CAN'T understand what that reason is.

So...in your reality, Obama did not try to warn you progs about being over the top? Interesting.

Tell that to Pelosi.

Bengazi is over. Hunter, Wray, Pelosi, even The Big Guy...Oh this will be sooo much fun. Don't ya think?

LOL...Son...I have worked for Canadian Foreign Affairs. Don't BS me. Neither nation does anything for altruistic reasons. That you would think they do is...cute...in a way.