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The truth is slowly becoming obvious.

Trump was a MAGNIFICENT  POTUS.

In years to come, how will you explain how you got him wrong?

Were the enemies of America that smart that they hid themselves from your view and you couldn't spot them or recognize what was being done to him?

Or were you just not bright enough to sense you were being used by America's enemies?

Or was it a matter of lack of good values, i.e. that you were raised so poorly that you would root for the BAD guy and attack the GOOD GUY?

Not a troll question.

I really can't understand  how you could hate and bash Trump.

If you are an America-hating foreigner, you can get lost.

 

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7 minutes ago, Rebound said:

He is a horrible human being.

You would think that someone born into extreme wealth would be kind, but that man is mean to people. He is cruel. He is a sociopath.  
His policies were atrocious. 

We can argue about the desirability of "meanness" in a reformer POTUS (I think anyone without a mean streak is unfit to reform the corruption in our society and government).

But you are ridiculously mistaken in discounting the job he did as POTUS.

And let's say a word, in passing, about the fact that while a public servant, there were no questions about Trump's moral integrity.

Contrast that with Biden's record of sexual perversions and alleged sexual assaults and predations as a U.S. Senator AND VICE President!

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21 minutes ago, DONKIROCK said:

And let's say a word, in passing, about the fact that while a public servant, there were no questions about Trump's moral integrity.

Well, that's the first thing you've said I agree on.

Trump certainly never left anyone in doubt about his moral integrity. Nosiree. 

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1 hour ago, DONKIROCK said:

We can argue about the desirability of "meanness" in a reformer POTUS (I think anyone without a mean streak is unfit to reform the corruption in our society and government).

But you are ridiculously mistaken in discounting the job he did as POTUS.

And let's say a word, in passing, about the fact that while a public servant, there were no questions about Trump's moral integrity.

Contrast that with Biden's record of sexual perversions and alleged sexual assaults and predations as a U.S. Senator AND VICE President!

First off, Trump was not mean in order to implement policy. He was mean because his base of degenerates liked to cheer when he "stuck it to the libbies." We're supposed to be the UNITED States. He is supposed to be President of the UNITED States. That's why Biden is sending aid to Florida. But Trump was against aid to Puerto Rico and California after they suffered major disasters. Trump was the ultimate conniving politician, and never saw his role as helping the nation. Red states get disaster aid and Blue states don't. That isn't proper governance. 

Trump didn't reform corruption, he WAS corruption.

He LIED to the American people and refused to release his tax returns despite his promises to do so. He fought against it all the way to the Supreme Court... and LOST.

He failed to disengage himself from his business interests while President, which was a brazen and corrupt conflict of interest. His Washington DC hotel was considered the de facto destination for diplomats, lobbyists and anyone else seeking (buying) influence inside the Trump Administration.

He paid pornstars hush money.

He allowed the National Enquirer to pay pornstars hush money. 

He paid $25 million to settle fraud (fraud means THEFT) over his Trump "University" sham.

I could go on and on. You cannot say the man is not corrupt. And what "corruption" did he stop? Hillary using private email? His whole damn administration used private email. He used the Justice Department as his own personal legal team. He pardoned his personal friends. Can you name a President who pardoned a personal friend? Republicans went apeshit when Clinton pardoned Mark Rich, and that was after Israel lobbied ceaselessly to have him pardoned. 

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37 minutes ago, Rebound said:

First off, Trump was not mean in order to implement policy. He was mean because his base of degenerates liked to cheer when he "stuck it to the libbies." We're supposed to be the UNITED States. He is supposed to be President of the UNITED States. That's why Biden is sending aid to Florida. But Trump was against aid to Puerto Rico and California after they suffered major disasters. Trump was the ultimate conniving politician, and never saw his role as helping the nation. Red states get disaster aid and Blue states don't. That isn't proper governance. 

Trump didn't reform corruption, he WAS corruption.

He LIED to the American people and refused to release his tax returns despite his promises to do so. He fought against it all the way to the Supreme Court... and LOST.

He failed to disengage himself from his business interests while President, which was a brazen and corrupt conflict of interest. His Washington DC hotel was considered the de facto destination for diplomats, lobbyists and anyone else seeking (buying) influence inside the Trump Administration.

He paid pornstars hush money.

He allowed the National Enquirer to pay pornstars hush money. 

He paid $25 million to settle fraud (fraud means THEFT) over his Trump "University" sham.

I could go on and on. You cannot say the man is not corrupt. And what "corruption" did he stop? Hillary using private email? His whole damn administration used private email. He used the Justice Department as his own personal legal team. He pardoned his personal friends. Can you name a President who pardoned a personal friend? Republicans went apeshit when Clinton pardoned Mark Rich, and that was after Israel lobbied ceaselessly to have him pardoned. 

You may be a nice person. You may be a law abiding person.

But Mr or Ms Rebound, you are challenged to keep your personal emotions SEPARATE from your logical considerations.

AND you are challenged to keep Trump's PRE-POTUS  acts and accusations SEPARATE from what he did for America as POTUS.

I get the sense that you blur the lines between his businessman phase and his public service phase.

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15 minutes ago, DONKIROCK said:

AND you are challenged to keep Trump's PRE-POTUS  acts and accusations SEPARATE from what he did for America as POTUS.

What if, hypothetically, he LIED while president about paying off a hypothetical porn star but he actually cheated on his wife with the hypothetical before he was president ?

Kind of a grey area I suppose...

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Just now, Michael Hardner said:

What if, hypothetically, he LIED while president about paying off a hypothetical porn star but he actually cheated on his wife with the hypothetical before he was president ?

Kind of a grey area I suppose...

Kind of an irrelevance, I suppose.

How does that real or alleged payment help or hurt you as an American?

How does it make American better or worse off?

You are smarter than to use such silliness to justify hating him, aren't you?

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6 minutes ago, DONKIROCK said:

 

How does that real or alleged payment help or hurt you as an American?

How does it make American better or worse off?

You are smarter than to use such silliness to justify hating him, aren't you?

I'm not American however I assume they care about things like lying... And did they are known to be very moral especially but sexual things. But who knows..

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1 hour ago, Rebound said:

He was mean because his base of degenerates liked to cheer when he "stuck it to the libbies." We're supposed to be the UNITED States. He is supposed to be President of the UNITED States. 

You anti-American Trump bashers started the attacks on him the same day he declared his run for the Presidency. 

The corrupt Leftist media lied about his comments about Mexicans being rapists and drug dealers.

What would you do if I lied about you by saying that you called new posters to re:politics "rapists" and "drug dealers"?

Would you be angry?

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32 minutes ago, DONKIROCK said:

You may be a nice person. You may be a law abiding person.

But Mr or Ms Rebound, you are challenged to keep your personal emotions SEPARATE from your logical considerations.

AND you are challenged to keep Trump's PRE-POTUS  acts and accusations SEPARATE from what he did for America as POTUS.

I get the sense that you blur the lines between his businessman phase and his public service phase.

You may be a nice person, but your logic is limited to, “Trump is so great awesome amazing” without presenting any evidence or fact. 
 

Did America have its highest ever deficits under Trump? YES!!! By massive margins!  
Did America become the world leader in Covid deaths and infections under Trump? YES!!!

Did America become more divided under Trump? YES!!! Because he deliberately divided Americans. 
 

You cannot refute these facts. 

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Also: Hunter, a married father of three, had begun an affair with Beau’s widow Hallie.
When Page Six broke the story, Joe Biden issued a strange statement.

“We are all lucky that Hunter and Hallie found each other” — as if they collided randomly, like atoms — “as they were putting their lives together after such sadness. They have mine and Jill’s complete support and we are happy for them.”

No mention was made of Hunter’s three traumatized daughters, or Hunter’s long-suffering, blindsided wife, or of Hallie and Beau’s children, their uncle now playing stepfather — that is, when he wasn’t out blowing money he didn’t have on drugs, booze, strippers and sex workers.

“YOU NEED TO GET TESTED FOR HIV HALLIE.”

Hunter wrote this email to his brother’s widow in July 2018. He was simultaneously involved with Hallie’s married sister Elizabeth — not that you’ve read much about that scandal either.

Hunter to Elizabeth, via text: “We should shower together by [FaceTime] every morning or night. I’ll teach you how to masturbate.”

Hunter Biden in bathtub A photo revealed from a laptop Hunter Biden abandoned at a Delaware shop.

Hunter, Hallie and Elizabeth lived together at Beau’s old house. “They were obviously up 24/7 just partying,” one source told the Daily Mail. “They would sit out on the patio like crackheads almost.”

Again: Imagine if this was a Republican president’s family. Imagine the cries of hypocrisy, of poor personal character and amorality, of illegal activity run amok — family values, think of the children! It’s all we’d hear, morning to night."

https://nypost.com/2022/07/08/portrait-of-the-bidens-a-family-as-dysfunctional-as-the-kennedys-and-protected-by-the-press/

 

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3 minutes ago, DONKIROCK said:

Also: Hunter, a married father of three, had begun an affair with Beau’s widow Hallie.
When Page Six broke the story, Joe Biden issued a strange statement.

“We are all lucky that Hunter and Hallie found each other” — as if they collided randomly, like atoms — “as they were putting their lives together after such sadness. They have mine and Jill’s complete support and we are happy for them.”

No mention was made of Hunter’s three traumatized daughters, or Hunter’s long-suffering, blindsided wife, or of Hallie and Beau’s children, their uncle now playing stepfather — that is, when he wasn’t out blowing money he didn’t have on drugs, booze, strippers and sex workers.

“YOU NEED TO GET TESTED FOR HIV HALLIE.”

Hunter wrote this email to his brother’s widow in July 2018. He was simultaneously involved with Hallie’s married sister Elizabeth — not that you’ve read much about that scandal either.

Hunter to Elizabeth, via text: “We should shower together by [FaceTime] every morning or night. I’ll teach you how to masturbate.”

Hunter Biden in bathtub A photo revealed from a laptop Hunter Biden abandoned at a Delaware shop.

Hunter, Hallie and Elizabeth lived together at Beau’s old house. “They were obviously up 24/7 just partying,” one source told the Daily Mail. “They would sit out on the patio like crackheads almost.”

Again: Imagine if this was a Republican president’s family. Imagine the cries of hypocrisy, of poor personal character and amorality, of illegal activity run amok — family values, think of the children! It’s all we’d hear, morning to night."

https://nypost.com/2022/07/08/portrait-of-the-bidens-a-family-as-dysfunctional-as-the-kennedys-and-protected-by-the-press/

 

Your claim is that Trump is great.

How does this Hunter Biden stuff factor into Trump’s greatness? Is it because Trump screwed a higher class of pornstars? Did they have way bigger tits? Is that what made Trump a great President? Bigger pornstar tits? Sorry, I’m not following you.  

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8 minutes ago, Rebound said:

You may be a nice person, but your logic is limited to, “Trump is so great awesome amazing” without presenting any evidence or fact. 
 

Did America have its highest ever deficits under Trump? YES!!! By massive margins!  
Did America become the world leader in Covid deaths and infections under Trump? YES!!!

Did America become more divided under Trump? YES!!! Because he deliberately divided Americans. 
 

You cannot refute these facts. 

BFD

Big fricking deal.

Chinese virus.

Fauci helped create Covid.

Fauci flip flopped on his advice to the WH & the public to allow the existing anti Trump movement  to use Covid to bash Trump with.

But the Biden record of Covid deaths far outnumbers those who died during the Trump administration. 

Trump took actions to address Covid responsibly  which the Left attacked simply to destroy Trump.

The investments in our infrastructure made by Trump reflect a LANDLORD'S concern in maintaining a well run country or building.

Dems would have used that money to make America weaker.

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34 minutes ago, DONKIROCK said:

Kind of an irrelevance, I suppose.

How does that real or alleged payment help or hurt you as an American?

How does it make American better or worse off?

You are smarter than to use such silliness to justify hating him, aren't you?

You really have to ASK how blatant violation of ethical standards helps or hurts American citizens?

That you have to ask, is just further evidence that you, like Trump, are totally corrupt.

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2 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Your claim is that Trump is great.

How does this Hunter Biden stuff factor into Trump’s greatness? Is it because Trump screwed a higher class of pornstars? Did they have way bigger tits? Is that what made Trump a great President? Bigger pornstar tits? Sorry, I’m not following you.  

Of course you don't  follow me.

You are a Democrat or an anti American or both.

There would have been zero chance that the election could have been stolen if Trump had gotten the 17% of votes the polls show would have voted for him had news of Hunter's perversions, treason and corruption come to light.

And they didn't come to light because the FBI asked/told Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg to sit on the news.

We are being screwed by those who count on posters like you to assist their predation on your fellow Americans.

You were raised to do what is wrong and help the bad guys win, I guess.

What do you call it, bad parenting?

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32 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Well yes, exactly. How can people who care about a President who snuggles children turn the other way when their president lies about banging female pornstars, even though he's married to a foreign escort...

????

As you are not an American, I am not going to continue wasting time on what you think or don't. 

Ignore list for you.

Good luck.

Live long and prosper!

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