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A report claims overdose death up 41% in Portland Oregon since hard drugs decriminalized.


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7 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Go hug a gang banger.

Gawd...why are so many people so fucking stupid?

'Jail doesn't work.'

The Gascon school of stupidity.

answer the questions

jail doesn't work for everything

see Alcohol as a prime example

prohibition empowers gangsters

so you go hug a gangster

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3 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

answer the questions

jail doesn't work for everything

see Alcohol as a prime example

prohibition empowers gangsters

so you go hug a gangster

Look Sally...you wanna live in a Libbie utopia? Go live in Portland. Take your gum boots though. There's shit and piss all over the streets.

Enjoy...

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8 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Look Sally...you wanna live in a Libbie utopia? Go live in Portland. Take your gum boots though. There's shit and piss all over the streets.

Enjoy...

false dichotomy

if you don't want to ban all things that are bad for you

you need to explain why one should ban some drugs that are bad for you

but not others

if you don't have a good answer

that makes you a hypocrite

clearly you are okay with some drugs being legal

since you support the laws on the books

so explain why alcohol and tobacco shouldn't be illegal

but other drugs that are banned should

 

if you can't do that

why should anyone take your opinion seriously?

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7 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

false dichotomy

if you don't want to ban all things that are bad for you

you need to explain why one should ban some drugs that are bad for you

but not others

if you don't have a good answer

that makes you a hypocrite

clearly you are okay with some drugs being legal

since you support the laws on the books

so explain why alcohol and tobacco shouldn't be illegal

but other drugs that are banned should

 

if you can't do that

why should anyone take your opinion seriously?

Frankly...I don't care if stupid people take me seriously. Crime is exploding in Portland and this explosion directly correlates with the legalization of hard drugs. Not tobacco...not booze...not pot. Hard drugs!

 

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27 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Frankly...I don't care if stupid people take me seriously. Crime is exploding in Portland and this explosion directly correlates with the legalization of hard drugs. Not tobacco...not booze...not pot. Hard drugs!

correlation doesn't equal causation

it also correlates with the pandemic

overdoses have been on the rise in places that didn't legalize hard drugs since the pandemic too

clearly drug policy isn't the cause

many places that decriminalized hard drugs saw overdoses drop before the pandemic

you are cherry picking

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1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

correlation doesn't equal causation

it also correlates with pandemic

and overdoses have been on the rise in places that didn't legalize hard drugs

so explain that

Lol...hiding behind the skirt of The Rona. The last refuge of the fear mongers and Libbies. 

Hard drugs are bad. Portland is a dump. The Rona is over.

You should try reality.

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3 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...hiding behind the skirt of The Rona. The last refuge of the fear mongers and Libbies. 

Hard drugs are bad. Portland is a dump. The Rona is over.

You should try reality.

reality is that more people have turned to hard drugs during the pandemic

and more people who were already using abused them more

regardless of drug policy

and you are just stupid to pretend it's all about repealing dumb laws

Portland is a dump for reasons other than drug policy, derp

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1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

reality is that more people have turned to hard drugs during the pandemic

regardless of drug policy

and you are just stupid to pretend it's all about repealing dumb laws

Ya know...if you quit hiding BEHIND the skirt of The Rona...get on your knees and crawl INTO the skirt...you'll find some goodies that might just placate your insanity...

For a little while at least...

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3 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Ya know...if you quit hiding BEHIND the skirt of The Rona...get on your knees and crawl INTO the skirt...you'll find some goodies that might just placate your insanity...

For a little while at least...

excluding the woke, the free speech haters and covid totalitarians

you have easily got to be one of the dumbest people posting here

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1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

excluding the woke, the free speech haters and covid totalitarians

you have easily got to be one of the dumbest people posting here

Ya gits wut ya pays fer...sonny-boy.

Arguing that hard drugs is the same as tobacco and scotch is...an exhibition of stupidity..thus I must surmise that you are an idiot. And the opinions of idiots...while perfectly welcomed, as are all opinions...will generally be met with identification of the idiocy.

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9 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Ya gits wut ya pays fer...sonny-boy.

Arguing that hard drugs is the same as tobacco and scotch is...an exhibition of stupidity..thus I must surmise that you are an idiot. And the opinions of idiots...while perfectly welcomed, as are all opinions...will generally be met with identification of the idiocy.

I am not arguing they are the same

I am correctly assuming you cannot explain why one should be banned but the other shouldn't be

you are just going on feelings not logic

and you continue to prove that point

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14 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

I am not arguing they are the same

I am correctly assuming you cannot explain why one should be banned but the other shouldn't be

you are just going on feelings not logic

and you continue to prove that point

Lol...you don't even realize the contradiction and hypocrisy of your own posts.

Hilarious...

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7 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...you don't even realize the contradiction and hypocrisy of your own posts.

Hilarious...

you still can't explain

continuing to prove my point

all you do is argue in bad faith

as soon as you realize you're badly losing an argument

then it's a parade of fallacies from you

ad hominem and strawmen being your favorites

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4 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

you still can't explain

continuing to prove my point

all you do is argue in bad faith

as soon as you realize you're badly losing an argument

then it's a parade of fallacies from you

ad hominem and strawmen being your favorites

*sigh*

OK Sally...you're right. Hard drugs should be legalized, because tobacco and booze are legal.

Now...you go live in whatever shithole drug oasis you choose. And again...for your own cleanliness...take your gum boots.

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10 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

*sigh*

OK Sally...you're right. Hard drugs should be legalized, because tobacco and booze are legal.

Now...you go live in whatever shithole drug oasis you choose. And again...for your own cleanliness...take your gum boots.

that isn't why they shouldn't illegal

I can explain why they shouldn't be illegal

you can't explain why they should be illegal

without using anti-drug arguments that apply more to drugs that you are fine with being legal than the drugs you want to be illegal

there is no logical consistency to your position

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13 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

that isn't why they shouldn't illegal

I can explain why they shouldn't be illegal

you can't explain why they should be illegal

without using anti-drug arguments that apply more to drugs that you are fine with being legal than the drugs you want to be illegal

there is no logical consistency to your position

Unbelievable. Ya know...when I acquiesce to the silly demands of my wife so she'll shut up...she has the intelligence to shut up. But not you. No...you're obviously an idiot on a mission.

Go shoot whatever you have in your veins...zombie out for a couple hours...and say repeatedly...

"Heroine is the same as beer and a smoke. So I'm good with being a piece of social refuse and complete drain on society."

Then...you can go out with your tent, pitch it, and shit on the sidewalk.

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35 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Unbelievable. Ya know...when I acquiesce to the silly demands of my wife so she'll shut up...she has the intelligence to shut up. But not you. No...you're obviously an idiot on a mission.

Go shoot whatever you have in your veins...zombie out for a couple hours...and say repeatedly...

"Heroine is the same as beer and a smoke. So I'm good with being a piece of social refuse and complete drain on society."

Then...you can go out with your tent, pitch it, and shit on the sidewalk.

why do you assume people against drug prohibition all want to be drug addicts?

to make your idiotic positions seem smarter, no doubt

you sure do love arguing against strawmen to maintain the delusion that you're intelligent

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1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

why do you assume people against drug prohibition all want to be drug addicts?

to make your idiotic positions seem smarter, no doubt

you sure do love arguing against strawmen to maintain the delusion that you're intelligent

Again...ya gits wut ya pays fer.

You post stupid shit...expect to have it refuted.

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3 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Again...ya gits wut ya pays fer.

You post stupid shit...expect to have it refuted.

I didn't post that

you made it up

you refute strawmen

not my arguments

because you can only win an argument

against the stupidest shit you can make up

that's how weak your argument is

you're like Cathy Newman on steroids

 

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5 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

I didn't post that

you made it up

you refute strawmen

not my arguments

because you can only win an argument

against the stupidest shit you can make up

that's how weak your argument is

you're like Cathy Newman on steroids

 

And I quote:

Quote

I laugh at those who think the problem with the system

is that the government doesn't crack down harder

on something that shouldn't be illegal

Have a warm and fuzzy day...

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2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

And I quote:

Have a warm and fuzzy day...

I said it shouldn't be illegal

the reasons I believe that

have nothing to do with the reasons you think I believe that

you just make up dumb shit and put words in my mouth

to dismiss the argument

 

you're just like

so what you're really saying is something you never said

that's all you got

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1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

I said it shouldn't be illegal

the reasons I believe that

have nothing to do with the reasons you think I believe that

you just make up dumb shit

to dismiss the argument

I don't care WHY you think this dumb crap. Its dumb. The proof is in Portland. You choose to ignore said proof because...jails are too full or its racist or police bad or whatever reason your pointy little head can concoct.

NONE of which refutes the evidence presented nor common fucking sense.

IMO...your ideas on this subject are corrosive to a civil society.!

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18 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

I don't care WHY you think this dumb crap. Its dumb. The proof is in Portland. You choose to ignore said proof because...jails are too full or its racist or police bad or whatever reason your pointy little head can concoct.

NONE of which refutes the evidence presented nor common fucking sense.

IMO...your ideas on this subject are corrosive to a civil society.!

you presented a correlation equals causation fallacy

that is not evidence

Portland is a shithole because it's woke af

not because of it's lack of drug prohibition

Portland is proof of the stupidity of wokeness

not proof of drug prohibition being effective

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Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

you presented a correlation equals causation fallacy

that is not evidence

Portland is a shithole because it's woke af

not because of it's drug policies

Its the woke culture that brought this chicken shit to bear on the city.

What the hell is wrong with you?

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18 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

I don't care WHY you think this dumb crap. Its dumb. The proof is in Portland. You choose to ignore said proof because...jails are too full or its racist or police bad or whatever reason your pointy little head can concoct.

NONE of which refutes the evidence presented nor common fucking sense.

IMO...your ideas on this subject are corrosive to a civil society.!

The proof could also be Portugal where decriminalization and treating drug addiction as a Health Issue and not a crime is somewhere else you can look. 

If someone is hopelessly addicted to an illegal drug, how does throwing them in prison help them? 

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