Current Events Evidence: The election, court rulings, etc.

[BeaverFever]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

What else is there to say? Biden's administration and presidency has been the worst in history. 

 

Lol. You guys repeat that same empty line about every Democrat,  it has no meaning.
 

We get it, you voted for the other guy therefore “(insert name here) is the worst president in history” and during elections  “(insert name here) is the most radical socialist in Washington”.  It’s like a broken record. 

[Nationalist]

4 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Lol. You guys repeat that same empty line about every Democrat,  it has no meaning.
 

We get it, you voted for the other guy therefore “(insert name here) is the worst president in history” and during elections  “(insert name here) is the most radical socialist in Washington”.  It’s like a broken record. 

This is one of the reasons I don't take you seriously. You're nothing more than a common troll.

[BeaverFever]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Beave...all that money people have is welfare.

How stupid can you be?

Lmao how stupid can YOU be?  You’re not even writing coherent sentences here. All those high wages workers are earning are welfare….or something….

 

The COVID stimulus was not “welfare” and is not responsible for inflation. Like a typical conservative, you’re just trotting out the wealthy elite”s usual complaint that the poor and working classes have too much money and too much freedom.

This is the hypocrisy of the right’s phoney populism.  Like multimillionaire propagandist Sean Hannity’s recent rant about working Americans who are financially struggling:   “Maybe instead of working 40 hours a week, work 70, 80, 90 hours. And I know people don’t like to hear that advice.”  What a working class hero ?

 

[Nationalist]

11 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Lmao how stupid can YOU be?  You’re not even writing coherent sentences here. All those high wages workers are earning are welfare….or something….

 

The COVID stimulus was not “welfare” and is not responsible for inflation. Like a typical conservative, you’re just trotting out the wealthy elite”s usual complaint that the poor and working classes have too much money and too much freedom.

This is the hypocrisy of the right’s phoney populism.  Like multimillionaire propagandist Sean Hannity’s recent rant about working Americans who are financially struggling:   “Maybe instead of working 40 hours a week, work 70, 80, 90 hours. And I know people don’t like to hear that advice.”  What a working class hero ?

 

I don't remember Hannity saying that. But if you don't think The Rona welfare has been a major contributor to this recession...you're as sharp as a butter knife...or a simple troll.

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

This is one of the reasons I don't take you seriously. You're nothing more than a common troll.

Nope,  nothing “trolling” about the way  I dismantle your empty, generic, fact-free, evidence-free posts and you can’t stand it. 

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

I don't remember Hannity saying that. But if you don't think The Rona welfare has been a major contributor to this recession...you're as sharp as a butter knife...or a simple troll.

Are you claiming its contributing to recession or inflation?  Do you even know the meaning of the words you’re throwing around?  
 

The coming recession is being deliberately engineered to counteract inflation.  Circulating money doesn’t cause recessions …it does the opposite in fact. While it can CONTRIBUTE TO inflation,  the covid relief benefits by themselves will not cause inflation. There are many factors at play and COViD benefits are minimal.
 

Like I said it’s typical that conservatives focus on attacking the working class over  inflation and ignore other factors like all the price gouging and profit hoarding their beloved corporations are engaged in. 
 

As for Hannity you find the details here:

Sean Hannity: Work 90 Hours a Week If You're Poor 

Typical Conservative fare. Remember when George Bush Jr actually brought a single mother on stage during a town hall, to celebrate the fact that she had to work 3 jobs to make ends meet?

 

“You work three jobs? Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that."

- GWB To a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005

Source: https://quotepark.com/quotes/1111897-george-w-bush-you-work-three-jobs-uniquely-american-isnt-it/

 

 

 

Edited August 7, 2022 by BeaverFever

[Infidel Dog]

17 hours ago, herbie said:

And you're saying Biden is the cause of inflation? Do tell us how.

Seriously? You don't know the answer to that? Jeesh...what are the corporate and state-run media telling you over there in Progworld?

I can give you the money points. Under Biden they've been printing trillions to pay for their waste. More money on the market makes what's there worth less.

To be fair it's not just Biden. Canada in particular and others are also offenders:

https://spencerfernando.com/2020/10/07/the-bank-of-canada-is-printing-money-like-crazy/

 

That's the most important one.

The other one I told you about years ago. Raise the price of fuel and everything from food to lodging goes up.

 

[Infidel Dog]

Speaking of working multiple jobs I heard an interesting one on YouTube. If it's not true feel free to show me why it's not.

You know how the Biden mouth pieces have been saying there is no recession because job growth is so high?

Well, the claim I'm hearing now from the other side is almost all of those new jobs are part-time and many are people working multiple jobs.

There's also this:

62.1%: Labor Force Participation Falls in July, As 239,000 More Americans Drop Out of Labor Force

[Infidel Dog]

As I was looking for that last link I found this that kind of explains at least some of why Canada under Trudeau has to print more money. Might also apply to America and others:

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 a new study by the fiscally-conservative Fraser Institute — released Tuesday — says runaway spending by the Trudeau government before the pandemic hit added as much as $160 billion to Canada’s public debt, making it much harder to recover from the economic devastation it has caused going forward.

 

“Additional spending by the federal government in the years leading up to COVID-19 … left the country in worse fiscal shape to deal with the pandemic,” said study co-author Tegan Hill in the report, Ottawa’s Pattern of Excessive Spending and Persistent Deficits.

 

“Generations of Canadians will be paying for Ottawa’s high spending and additional debt, a situation that was exacerbated, but not caused, by the COVID-19 pandemic.”

https://torontosun.com/opinion/goldstein-trudeaus-runaway-spending-hiked-canadas-debt-160-billion-before-pandemic-hit-report

Edited August 7, 2022 by Infidel Dog

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

Nope,  nothing “trolling” about the way  I dismantle your empty, generic, fact-free, evidence-free posts and you can’t stand it. 

Giggle...

[BeaverFever]

18 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

Speaking of working multiple jobs I heard an interesting one on YouTube. If it's not true feel free to show me why it's not.

You know how the Biden mouth pieces have been saying there is no recession because job growth is so high?

Well, the claim I'm hearing now from the other side is almost all of those new jobs are part-time and many are people working multiple jobs.

You say you heard on YouTube that the moon is made out of green cheese (no link provided). If someone wants to dispute that they have to show you why it’s not true?
 

At least your backwards logic is consistent… Republicans always try to argue that all their baseless zero-evidence accusations are automatically true and must be accepted as fact, and that WE have the burden of proof to provide evidence disproving them.:

“Prove there WASN’T a vast liberal conspiracy to steal the 2020 election, to traffic child sex slaves, to forge Kenyan Obama’s US Birth Certificate, to hide Saddam’s WMD and Al Qaeda links, to cover up the Clinton’s murders“  

 

There is labour shortage across the developed world. There are more vacant jobs than there are workers to fill them. 
 

 

To your second point and link, the shrinking Labour Force doesn’t mean higher unemployment. Unemployed people looking for work are still counted as part of the Labour Force   People over retirement age are not counted in the Labour Force. That now includes our largest age demographic:  Boomers and the older Gen Xers. Anecdotally there also seem to be some who dropped out of the labour force voluntarily:  they quit or lost their job during the pandemic and have just decided they are not going back to work, they are stay-at-home parents or went back to school or otherwise just realized that they and their spouse can more happily live on just one working income, things like that. But it’s hard to argue that’s Biden’s fault and those numbers are relatively few anyways. 

[BeaverFever]

2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Giggle...

Thats a troll response right there. 

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

Are you claiming its contributing to recession or inflation?  Do you even know the meaning of the words you’re throwing around?  
 

The coming recession is being deliberately engineered to counteract inflation.  Circulating money doesn’t cause recessions …it does the opposite in fact. While it can CONTRIBUTE TO inflation,  the covid relief benefits by themselves will not cause inflation. There are many factors at play and COViD benefits are minimal.
 

Like I said it’s typical that conservatives focus on attacking the working class over  inflation and ignore other factors like all the price gouging and profit hoarding their beloved corporations are engaged in. 
 

As for Hannity you find the details here:

Sean Hannity: Work 90 Hours a Week If You're Poor 

Typical Conservative fare. Remember when George Bush Jr actually brought a single mother on stage during a town hall, to celebrate the fact that she had to work 3 jobs to make ends meet?

 

“You work three jobs? Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that."

- GWB To a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005

Source: https://quotepark.com/quotes/1111897-george-w-bush-you-work-three-jobs-uniquely-american-isnt-it/

 

 

 

If Hannity wants to work all day...let him. Not my cup of tea but...I'm not rich like him either. 

And?

[Nationalist]

2 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Thats a troll response right there. 

No it's me giggling while you make an ass of yourself. 

People like you are why the democrats are in trouble. 

[BeaverFever]

40 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

As I was looking for that last link I found this that kind of explains at least some of why Canada under Trudeau has to print more money. Might also apply to America and others:

https://torontosun.com/opinion/goldstein-trudeaus-runaway-spending-hiked-canadas-debt-160-billion-before-pandemic-hit-report

Just more pro-austerity propaganda from the  usual suspects who want more of the disastrous Reagan-Thatcher austerity that has degraded first world living standards and ravaged the working class for the last 40 years. 
 

Besides Rrght-wing tax cuts for the rich and corporations have done more to drive up debt than spending has. 

[BeaverFever]

2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

If Hannity wants to work all day...let him. Not my cup of tea but...I'm not rich like him either. 

And?

Omg you totally don’t even get it. Are you really that dense or are you trying to distort the issue?

The issue is NOT how many hours Hannity claims to work…he’s a multimillionaire with all kinds of lackeys and staffers to do his work for him so he’s probably lying about his own efforts.
 

The issue as you surely know but are trying to avoid  is how many hour ls he thinks EVERYONE ELSE should work just to afford a basic standard of living. Like a typical rich conservatives asshole, he believes the sacrifices and hardships of the working class are never too great and the minor nuisances and inconveniences of elites like him are never too small

[Nationalist]

6 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Omg you totally don’t even get it. Are you really that dense or are you trying to distort the issue?

The issue is NOT how many hours Hannity claims to work…he’s a multimillionaire with all kinds of lackeys and staffers to do his work for him so he’s probably lying about his own efforts.
 

The issue as you surely know but are trying to avoid  is how many hour ls he thinks EVERYONE ELSE should work just to afford a basic standard of living. Like a typical rich conservatives asshole, he believes the sacrifices and hardships of the working class are never too great and the minor nuisances and inconveniences of elites like him are never too small

I think ur full o shit...frankly.

Hannity might be an asshole. So what? 

These people with more than 1 job...are they all full-time jobs or a bunch of partime?

[BeaverFever]

7 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

No it's me giggling while you make an ass of yourself. 

People like you are why the democrats are in trouble. 

Democrats are in trouble because America is a fundamentally corrupt failing state for which both parties are historically to blame. The new Republican fascism is the symptom, not the disease itself.

Democrats probably can’t save the country even if they truly wanted to because as individuals they are also creatures of America’s sick political system where to accomplish even one good thing you have to cut deals to do 5 evil things. Ultimately whether Republican or Democrat they are all still self-serving politicians beholden to special interests, corporate donors are back-room deals and that means the only direction for America is downhill. Republicans just want to get to the bottom faster and land harder. 

[BeaverFever]

2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

I think ur full o shit...frankly.

Hannity might be an asshole. So what? 

These people with more than 1 job...are they all full-time jobs or a bunch of partime?

Ask Fiddler he’s the one claiming (without evidence) people are working multiple jobs now. 
 

Hannity is typical of how Republicans think and have always thought about the working class, as I showed you  with that clip of Bush from almost 20 years ago. 

[herbie]

It's the Fraser Institute - if we listened to them we'd be still in a recession since the 1980s when they began. Haven't issued a single thing that would benefit taxpayers. workers or consumers since the day they were founded.

[Nationalist]

6 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Democrats are in trouble because America is a fundamentally corrupt failing state for which both parties are historically to blame. The new Republican fascism is the symptom, not the disease itself.

Democrats probably can’t save the country even if they truly wanted to because as individuals they are also creatures of America’s sick political system where to accomplish even one good thing you have to cut deals to do 5 evil things. Ultimately whether Republican or Democrat they are all still self-serving politicians beholden to special interests, corporate donors are back-room deals and that means the only direction for America is downhill. Republicans just want to get to the bottom faster and land harder. 

Lol...a real believer. Hates America...wants to destroy everything. 

Obviously your mommy and daddy didn't spank you enough.

[Nationalist]

7 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Ask Fiddler he’s the one claiming (without evidence) people are working multiple jobs now. 
 

Hannity is typical of how Republicans think and have always thought about the working class, as I showed you  with that clip of Bush from almost 20 years ago. 

All you've shown is how much you despise you're land and your family. You are the enemy of civil society.

[Infidel Dog]

You know, Beave...just denying something and threatening to hold your breath until you turn blue as proof doesn't impress anybody

Edited August 8, 2022 by Infidel Dog

[Infidel Dog]

Getting all hysterical, crying out at in all directions at every little diversion does nothing to address the main point. 

Does it at least make sense to you progressive chuckleheads that if you print more and more money, that excessive  money you printed will be worth less. 

A 1921 George the fifth Canadian nickel is worth over a hundred bucks. The last nickel you got as change shopping is most likely worth about a nickel.

Guess why that is.

[herbie]

Still waiting to hear how it's all Biden's fault, asides from the usual repitition cheapspeak.

Trump hands out trillions in incentives, that's ok. Biden does and everything's all his fault. No one can even suggest an alternative once it's all ended, because even they know they were all for worse for the economy.
Just think, if we'd elected O'Toole they'd be just now finishing the list of everyone who didn't qualify for a Covid benefit and the paper cheques would be coming out by mail in time for this Christmas.