Dougie93 Posted May 15, 2022 Report Posted May 15, 2022 this is how the monarchy works in Canada the monarchy allows Quebec to be Quebec, totally separate from the English if Canada became a unitary Nationalist Republic, it would tear itself apart Quote
ExFlyer Posted May 15, 2022 Report Posted May 15, 2022 On 5/14/2022 at 4:24 AM, Great American said: Brilliant response. Does anyone thing that America did NOT win WWII? A moment of honest please: Many nations fought and many brave men died and I respect their sacrifice, but the truth is that the American manufacturing power and might is what armed the West. Production in England was obliterated and France had lost and other nations did not have the capacity. America's 2-ocean fleet and our war production machine is what won the war. And we were very nationalist, in the good way. The same manufacturing power that supplied Germany until the US got pulled into the war by Japan in the end of 1941? Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Dougie93 Posted May 15, 2022 Report Posted May 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Great American said: Well, here is a different POV, and a darn good one. Perhaps I have more analyzing to do on this topic Mark Levin is a classic Reagan Democrat MAGA from the 1980's he was Chief of Staff for Edwin Meese in the Reagan Administration 1 Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 15, 2022 Report Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) the Reagan Democrats are the left wing of the Republican party they were the JFK Democrats who, like Dutch Reagan, were driven to the Republican party, as the Democrats became increasingly Communist Edited May 15, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 15, 2022 Report Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Great American said: Perhaps I have more analyzing to do on this topic Party of Lincoln Glorious Union free all the slaves everywhere, or die trying Republicans are not actually conservative Republicans are radical abolitionists it's a revolutionary movement to make the world over in America's image God's chosen people New Jerusalem Shining City on a Hill Empire of Liberty the America Firster Isolationists are not really Republicans at all Billy Sherman wields the Terrible Swift Sword still Edited May 15, 2022 by Dougie93 1 Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 15, 2022 Report Posted May 15, 2022 don't forget that America is not one nation anymore than Canada is the America Firster Isolationists are actually the other nation the Confederates defeated at the foot of Cemetery Ridge they've simply been driven to the GOP by the Democrats going Commie, same as the Reagan Democrats were Quote
Nationalist Posted May 15, 2022 Report Posted May 15, 2022 20 hours ago, Aristides said: Seriously, when have you taken a sworn oath of allegiance before witnesses? Many years ago. What a stupid question. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Dougie93 Posted May 15, 2022 Report Posted May 15, 2022 it's the same fight in America as it was in 1861 States Rights v. The Washington - Wall Street Axis the map has just shifted slightly them Yankees are now called The Coastal Elites and Dixieland became Fly Over Country Quote
Great American Posted May 15, 2022 Author Report Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: The same manufacturing power that supplied Germany until the US got pulled into the war by Japan in the end of 1941? So what. We do business. Thats why we are rich and you are our vassal state. Hindsight is always 20 20. Germany was a Republic until Hindenburg died in 1934. After that it still seemed like a Republic for a while. Perhaps you can enlighten me with specifics on how the US Government supplied Hitler after 1939 and until 1941, since that is your assertion. And remember, individual private companies dong business in foreign countries is not the same as the government supplying another government with goods. I can point to European companies today that circumvent embargos on terrorist states. Edited May 15, 2022 by Great American Quote
Great American Posted May 15, 2022 Author Report Posted May 15, 2022 22 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Party of Lincoln Glorious Union free all the slaves everywhere, or die trying Republicans are not actually conservative Republicans are radical abolitionists it's a revolutionary movement to make the world over in America's image God's chosen people New Jerusalem Shining City on a Hill Empire of Liberty the America Firster Isolationists are not really Republicans at all Billy Sherman wields the Terrible Swift Sword still I like this Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 15, 2022 Report Posted May 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Great American said: Thats why we are rich and you are our vassal state. Canada has simply failed to launch as a sovereign independent Westphalian nation state because Canada was not designed to be a Westphalian nation state in 1867, the nation was Great Britain the purpose of Canada was to be a bulwark against the American Republic at the gates the British Empire then collapsed in the First World War, the Empire went broke fighting the Germans in Flanders and Canada was suddenly set adrift Canada was not meant to function this way, Canada has to have an Empire to manage its affairs so the British in effect handed Canada off, from the British Empire, to the American Empire of Liberty 1 Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 15, 2022 Report Posted May 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, Great American said: I like this well I am a Republican in the classical sense I'm not a Yankee tho but Lincoln was not a Yankee neither as you know, he was a Kentuckian like Lincoln, I vehemently oppose John Cotton & the Democrat Plantation Aristocracy but I've got much love for Johnny Reb, we are cousins Quote
ExFlyer Posted May 15, 2022 Report Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Great American said: So what. We do business. Thats why we are rich and you are our vassal state. Hindsight is always 20 20. Germany was a Republic until Hindenburg died in 1934. After that it still seemed like a Republic for a while. Perhaps you can enlighten me with specifics on how the US Government supplied Hitler after 1939 and until 1941, since that is your assertion. And remember, individual private companies dong business in foreign countries is not the same as the government supplying another government with goods. I can point to European companies today that circumvent embargos on terrorist states. Ah, yes, business is always an good excuse for American intervention into wars and conflicts. Into Vietnam and after decades had to pull out. Oh and lost https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/z342mp3/revision/4 Into Afghanistan and after decades had to pull out. Because the people you supported turned on you and you lost in the end. https://warontherocks.com/2021/09/when-americas-all-volunteer-force-loses-a-war/ Yup, good business. LOL Yup, we are a vasal state. Taking advantage and not suffering the consequences. Canada good, America, where business is king, regardless of who they deal with Edited May 15, 2022 by ExFlyer added links 1 Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Great American Posted May 15, 2022 Author Report Posted May 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: well I am a Republican in the classical sense I'm not a Yankee tho but Lincoln was not a Yankee neither as you know, he was a Kentuckian like Lincoln, I vehemently oppose John Cotton & the Democrat Plantation Aristocracy but I've got much love for Johnny Reb, we are cousins I am a Kentuckian too. Well, I was born in Texas but I live in Kentucky. Quote
Great American Posted May 15, 2022 Author Report Posted May 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Ah, yes, business is always an good excuse for American intervention into wars and conflicts Perverting the subject I see. I never said that at all. I am still waiting for you to prove your assertion. Repeat: 59 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: The same manufacturing power that supplied Germany until the US got pulled into the war by Japan in the end of 1941? 26 minutes ago, Great American said: . . . . . Hindsight is always 20 20. Germany was a Republic until Hindenburg died in 1934. After that it still seemed like a Republic for a while. Perhaps you can enlighten me with specifics on how the US Government supplied Hitler after 1939 and until 1941, since that is your assertion. And remember, individual private companies dong business in foreign countries is not the same as the government supplying another government with goods. I can point to European companies today that circumvent embargos on terrorist states. Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 15, 2022 Report Posted May 15, 2022 Just now, Great American said: I am a Kentuckian too. Well, I was born in Texas but I live in Kentucky. Deo Vindice, cousin Canada is simply the Confederacy that won the war against them Yankees, and lived to tell the tale Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 15, 2022 Report Posted May 15, 2022 10 minutes ago, Great American said: Perverting the subject I see. you see here the knee jerk Canadian Anti-Americanism that is actually the Lost Cause even tho Canada won the War of 1812, repelled the Yankee invasion Canada being rendered into a vassal state of Canada's sworn enemy, incites Canadians to adopt the Lost Cause they are just so disconnected from their own history, they don't remember why Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 15, 2022 Report Posted May 15, 2022 I would submit; the important thing is not so much Nationalism the important thing is the central narrative knowing where you come from, the story of your people the average Canadian simply does not know, the average Canadian does not know the history of Canada a people without a history are easy to control, hence why Canadians are so docile & compliant Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 15, 2022 Report Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) you can see right now tho, more protests are kicking off in the streets of Quebec what about this time ? Quebec is waging a war against the English Quebec is passing laws which criminalize being an Anglo this is what comes of Nationalism in the unstable cobbled together Confederation of Canada it will be war, between the British & French a war that goes all the way back the Plains of Abraham on 13 September 1759 Canada is not a unified nation and never was Canada is a French nation, taken by the British as a war prize Canada was conquered by the British and this wound can never be healed Quebec is the nation here, the Anglos are for all intents & purposes Americans by default Quebec even has its own National Anthem Gens du Pays Edited May 15, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote
Scott Mayers Posted May 15, 2022 Report Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) I just reviewed the linked YouTube video "Why You Should Be a Nationalist" and commented there in defiance of their claim. Historically, "Nationalism" used to refer to one's Nationality, their ETHNIC ancestral relationships as a 'people', not merely the country. The "National" in "National Socialisn" asserts that a particular extention of family and tribe should DEFINE the constitution of their country, as a SINGLE "nation". Todays perverted meaning of 'Nation' to mean country is ONLY a coinciding reference to one's people within a country as sharing their 'nationality'. To the Germans, they were the 'aboroginals' who demanded respect of them as having the 'FIRST NATION', a people that no longer identified the makeup of their country preWorldWartimes. The point the video made regarding supporting "family, community (tribe), and nation" is the actual part that the Nazis were demanding they should re-constitutionalize as a SOCIETY (the 'Social" in National Socialism). The generic term 'fasci' comes from the bundle of straws OF THE SAME KIND that has weakness only as independent straws. This is a univeral TRIBALIST position meant to entice those of a shared PARTICULAR culture to embrace so as to STRENTHEN their STRAIN because they believed one's intrinsic genetic inheritance is in sync with their ancestors ideal 'culture' being fostered. The term, "National", thus, only coincideds with a boundary IF that coutnry is PURE in one SINGE type of 'cultural' identity within those borders. However, "nation" is the PEOPLE of a given ethnicity regardless of borders except if proposed to constitutionalize their Social platform to FAVOR the given Nationality. An example of a "Nation" is a tribe of people like the Cree (Nation) aboriginals who are not confined to a specific country's border but to their ancestral family. If a country like Canada becomes specifically made up of Cree Nationalists, and the country gets redefined to require Society repect them with priority, their people BECOME the country's legitimate 'Social' identity based upon their specific Nation, ...them being Cree, for this example. Countries like Israel and Saudi Arabia are thus National Socialist examples given they constitute the society based upon a genetic ancestral association along with some presumed 'culture'. For Israel, the cultural link is being Jewish, the genetic tribe they coincidingly believe in is being purely Semitic, a purity of race defining their fasci. Edited May 15, 2022 by Scott Mayers 1 Quote
Great American Posted May 15, 2022 Author Report Posted May 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, Scott Mayers said: I just reviewed the linked YouTube video "Why You Should Be a Nationalist" and commented there in defiance of their claim . . . I commented on your comment and said you are full of crap Quote
Scott Mayers Posted May 15, 2022 Report Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Great American said: I commented on your comment and said you are full of crap Thank you for your immature anti-intellectual response. If you don't like to argue your point of view but prefer only to insult, that is what Twitter is designed for, ....emoting ones feelings unqualified. What you don't seem to notice is that you require tying a real name to your opinion or it is doubtful you are sincere. But you'd make a good Nazi. They preferred simple statements and actions without requiring intellectualizing it. They prefer such means of deception too. Edited May 15, 2022 by Scott Mayers Quote
Infidel Dog Posted May 15, 2022 Report Posted May 15, 2022 You're drawing the line between ethnic and civic nationalism and that in itself is valid. However when you attempt to infer that you have the key to which is more valid as a definition and from that attempt to make nationalists necessarily "national socialists" GA becomes correct. You are full of crap. 2 Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 15, 2022 Report Posted May 15, 2022 National Socialism was a trans nationalist movement there was no citizenship inherent to the NSDAP as the Fuhrer himself was not even a German he was a Czech from Austria the Nazis were Imperialists, it's the antithesis of nationalism Quote
Dougie93 Posted May 15, 2022 Report Posted May 15, 2022 if you're going to invoke Canadian Nationalism that is the Vimy Myth a nation forged in fire atop Vimy Ridge by the Canadian Corps and the heroic figure therein is General Sir Arthur Currie Quote
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