Enlightenment, Libertarian, 18th Century has Won

[August1991]

Give it up. We won.

Don't rub it in.

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Individuals matter.

As violent as Europeans may be, no Buddhist could ever be Mozart.

 

[August1991]

Tchaikovski, he was "blue" - some people are left-handed.

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WTF?

Neither Paul McCartney nor John Lennon are Confucious. (McCartney, maybe, because he borrowed on his dad's tunes.)

 

Edited April 7, 2022 by August1991

[August1991]

Vietnam War? IMHO, it was one of many important battles in a Cold War. 

It was an important battle - like Korea - that we in the West ultimately won.

"Communism? Socialism? We'll bury you!" No one believes that anymore.

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I know that some intellectuals worry about leftism. But Americans won!

Some people worry about radical Islam. I don't.

[Yzermandius19]

the only way to bring it down is suicide

if it doesn't beat itself

plenty of juice left to squeeze out of it yet

[August1991]

On 4/7/2022 at 6:13 PM, Yzermandius19 said:

the only way to bring it down is suicide.

...

Suicide?

So some claim.

But in general, we are collectively sending satellites into space - Webb, for example.

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Private individuals are rich enough that they can live without - while others take chances.

Edited May 11, 2022 by August1991

[Yzermandius19]

11 minutes ago, August1991 said:

Suicide?

So some claim.

But in general, we are collectively sending satellites into space - Webb, for example.

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Private individuals are rich enough that they can live without - while others take chances.

a monkey could be POTUS and America would be fine

only America can beat America

it's actually remarkably hard to fuck it up too badly

with the kinds of strategic advantages it has

that no one else does

[August1991]

Confucius, Buddha. Mohammed?  Like Moses and Jesus

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All men. And all use the ultimate extortion:

"Believe in me. Or after death, you no longer exist."

 

[Yzermandius19]

5 minutes ago, August1991 said:

Confucius, Buddha. Mohammed?  Like Moses and Jesus

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All men. And all use the ultimate extortion:

"Believe in me. Or after death, you no longer exist."

not actually a thing

belief is something greater than yourself is helpful

belief in nothing greater than yourself isn't

a simple observation really

[August1991]

25 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

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belief is something greater than yourself

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Good point.

[August1991]

There is something plaintive in Mozart.

In McCartney, there is something joyful.

Edited May 11, 2022 by August1991

[Nationalist]

On 4/7/2022 at 5:49 AM, August1991 said:

Vietnam War? IMHO, it was one of many important battles in a Cold War. 

It was an important battle - like Korea - that we in the West ultimately won.

"Communism? Socialism? We'll bury you!" No one believes that anymore.

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I know that some intellectuals worry about leftism. But Americans won!

Some people worry about radical Islam. I don't.

The USA won the Vietnam war? Holy shit! That means all our history is being chronicled wrongly.

[Yzermandius19]

50 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

The USA won the Vietnam war? Holy shit! That means all our history is being chronicled wrongly.

America actually won in Vietnam for the lulz

[Michael Hardner]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bibliothèque_bleue

Enlightenment is just starting.  At the beginning there were lots of books about religion, and then books about science and knowledge took over.

McLuhan pointed out that new media will first cause people to look in the rearview mirror.  The first popular TV shows were Westerns.  Once we stop using the internet to argue old ideas, we will start to move forward.

Right now, we are arguing religion.  We haven't re-learned pluralism....

[Nationalist]

8 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

America actually won in Vietnam for the lulz

Ya...the same way the won in Afghanistan.

With their tail between their legs.

[Yzermandius19]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Ya...the same way the won in Afghanistan.

With their tail between their legs.

pretty much

[Nationalist]

43 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

pretty much

Interesting.

So...if you play a game of chess with someone, and your opponent captures your king, you would claim victory?

[August1991]

On 5/11/2022 at 8:26 AM, Nationalist said:

The USA won the Vietnam war? Holy shit! That means all our history is being chronicled wrongly.

The US won the Cold War.

Vietnam was a battle in a larger war.

Edited May 13, 2022 by August1991

[Nationalist]

5 minutes ago, August1991 said:

The US won the Cold War.

Vietnam was a battle in a larger war.

Oh poor groomer. You're so wrong. Just like everything Libbie groomers have done.

[August1991]

Uh.

These names on the black stone in Washington, it matters.

They made it possible that Reagan could say: "Take down this wall."

[August1991]

America won.

But gay marriage? Let it be. I do not want a nuclear war for a name.

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Mayonnaise? It requires a yolk. Otherwise, it's just salad dressing.

Marriage? I reckon it requires a woman and a man.

[Faramir]

Oh boy had big argument with the wife on this.  I argued that as bad as colonialism was we brought Western liberalism to the world.  Your welcome.  The natives here engaged in barbaric coming of age rituals and we stopped that.  We brought an end to much of the caste system in India.  The world is better off now.  Southeast asia 100 years ago was a lesson in poverty.  Not any more.  The wife said different is not better.  Call me a western supremacist.

[Faramir]

On 5/10/2022 at 8:04 PM, Yzermandius19 said:

a monkey could be POTUS and America would be fine

only America can beat America

it's actually remarkably hard to fuck it up too badly

with the kinds of strategic advantages it has

that no one else does

The USA is finished.  It happened in November of 2020.  Now its a banana republic.

[Faramir]

On 4/7/2022 at 2:49 AM, August1991 said:

Vietnam War? IMHO, it was one of many important battles in a Cold War. 

It was an important battle - like Korea - that we in the West ultimately won.

"Communism? Socialism? We'll bury you!" No one believes that anymore.

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I know that some intellectuals worry about leftism. But Americans won!

Some people worry about radical Islam. I don't.

As a Libertarian minded person there is no excuse for drafts.  

[Faramir]

On 5/11/2022 at 6:24 AM, Michael Hardner said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bibliothèque_bleue

Enlightenment is just starting.  At the beginning there were lots of books about religion, and then books about science and knowledge took over.

McLuhan pointed out that new media will first cause people to look in the rearview mirror.  The first popular TV shows were Westerns.  Once we stop using the internet to argue old ideas, we will start to move forward.

Right now, we are arguing religion.  We haven't re-learned pluralism....

Who will prevail?  Will Elon Musk's vision of free speech be the winner?  Or will the Ministry of UnTruth headed by the Biden administration prevai?

[Yzermandius19]

3 hours ago, Faramir said:

The USA is finished.  It happened in November of 2020.  Now its a banana republic.

one election cannot ruin America

it is far too resilient for that to happen