Army Guy Posted January 23, 2022 Author Report Posted January 23, 2022 51 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: God didn't leave we are simply not dolls the existence of evil is not proof of God's absence So i am simply going to have to take your word on it ? That almighty God was there but just choose to watch that day...... Not saying my experience is as bad as those that faced NAZI concentration camps, but do you think god was in those places... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Yzermandius19 Posted January 23, 2022 Report Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Army Guy said: So i am simply going to have to take your word on it ? That almighty God was there but just choose to watch that day...... Not saying my experience is as bad as those that faced NAZI concentration camps, but do you think god was in those places... absolutely God didn't stop Jesus from being crucified either doesn't mean he wasn't there Edited January 23, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Army Guy Posted January 23, 2022 Author Report Posted January 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: absolutely God didn't stop Jesus from being crucified either doesn't mean he wasn't there your not very convincing...and you don't have to be, your free to believe in what ever you want...as i am Correct me if I'm wrong but the whole crucifixion thing was God's idea to pay for mans sins, he sacrificed his son.....I guess all those innocent people that lives were taken in war were to pay for what exactly.. and if he is just hanging around watching and not doing anything, what is the point of the whole religious thing... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Yzermandius19 Posted January 23, 2022 Report Posted January 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Army Guy said: your not very convincing...and you don't have to be, your free to believe in what ever you want...as i am Correct me if I'm wrong but the whole crucifixion thing was God's idea to pay for mans sins, he sacrificed his son.....I guess all those innocent people that lives were taken in war were to pay for what exactly.. and if he is just hanging around watching and not doing anything, what is the point of the whole religious thing... men aren't dolls they have free will including the free will to do evil what is the point of doing good, if you are forced to do it by divine intervention? it only means something if you choose to do it, and you could make another choice Quote
Army Guy Posted January 23, 2022 Author Report Posted January 23, 2022 45 minutes ago, blackbird said: Yes, I think if liberals and NDP had their way, we would have no military at all and Canada would become part of China. Almost all countries in the world have armed forces. As much as i really don't like the left, it was the conservative Government that cut Vets benefits, they also slashed the military budget to leave a surplus for the liberals... all parties have their finger prints all over todays military state of affairs. For some reason Canadians are afraid of the military, they just don't want anything to do with it...they are fully aware of its poor condition, and have done nothing... it is very telling... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
blackbird Posted January 23, 2022 Report Posted January 23, 2022 42 minutes ago, Army Guy said: your not very convincing...and you don't have to be, your free to believe in what ever you want...as i am Correct me if I'm wrong but the whole crucifixion thing was God's idea to pay for mans sins, he sacrificed his son.....I guess all those innocent people that lives were taken in war were to pay for what exactly.. and if he is just hanging around watching and not doing anything, what is the point of the whole religious thing... My perspective is based on the Bible teaching that man has a soul and a spirit and the soul does not die when man dies. Let's not forget we also are living in a corrupt, fallen world where there are innocent people who lost their lives in war, pandemics, cancer, etc. Death is a central feature of this fallen world. But this website explains more about why God allows death. "First, death is a result of sin. Death was never a part of God’s plan for His creation. We live in a fallen world, and Paul reminds us in Romans 5:12 that the byproduct of sin in the world is death. But the good news is there is hope beyond the grave. The sickness that leads to death in the world will not always be here. Second, sometimes the reason for death is to focus our hope on heaven. Death has a way of keeping us from putting our hope in this world. There is perhaps no greater object lesson than a funeral to remind us how brief our time on earth is. And many times, one reason for death is to remind us that this world is not all that there is, that something better awaits us. God allows death to remind us to fix our hope on heaven. Third, God allows us to experience grief so we can comfort others. When we understand that we are here to minister to other people, we have a new perspective on the problems we go through, including the loss of a loved one. Paul says that God “comforts us in all our affliction so that we might be able to comfort those who are in any affliction with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God” (2 Corinthians 1:4)." The rest of this article is at this website: Why Does God Allow Death? - Pathway to Victory (ptv.org) Quote
Queenmandy85 Posted January 23, 2022 Report Posted January 23, 2022 Pogo: I would like to ask God why he allows war and poverty in the world. Pogo's friend: Why don't you ask Him? Pogo: Because I'm afraid He would ask me the same question. 1 Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
Queenmandy85 Posted January 23, 2022 Report Posted January 23, 2022 The tangents on this thread demonstrate Mr. O'Toole's problem. Why can't we discuss Mr. O'Toole instead of religion etc? 1 Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
Yzermandius19 Posted January 23, 2022 Report Posted January 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Queenmandy85 said: The tangents on this thread demonstrate Mr. O'Toole's problem. Why can't we discuss Mr. O'Toole instead of religion etc? because O'Toole is a boring commie 1 Quote
Queenmandy85 Posted January 23, 2022 Report Posted January 23, 2022 2 hours ago, blackbird said: What do we expect when Canada brings in millions of third world immigrants without any Judeo-Christian beliefs or culture and destroys our civilization created by our European founding fathers. The first Nations had the same problem with all these Europeans coming in, stealing everything and imposing their wierd foreign religion on them. Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
Queenmandy85 Posted January 23, 2022 Report Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: because O'Toole is a boring commie You spout marxist republican hyperbole. Edited January 24, 2022 by Queenmandy85 Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
Yzermandius19 Posted January 24, 2022 Report Posted January 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: You spout marxist republican hyperbole. I spout truth O'Toole is the marxist not I Quote
blackbird Posted January 24, 2022 Report Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: The first Nations had the same problem with all these Europeans coming in, stealing everything and imposing their wierd foreign religion on them. No. The Europeans brought civilization to the aboriginals. Never stole anything. Created jobs over a hundred years ago, set up fish canneries on the coast, started logging and sawmills, brought tools and knowledge to them, built homes out of lumber, brought all the conveniences of a civilized society, brought justice systems, education, medical care, etc. etc. and of course brought the gospel. Also brought democracy and later human rights. Now they use the courts to claim billions of dollars that government is forced to pay them. People migrated into every place on earth and nobody was forced to pay compensation to anybody that live there before. Only in brainless Canada. Edited January 24, 2022 by blackbird Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted January 24, 2022 Report Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: The first Nations had the same problem with all these Europeans coming in, stealing everything and imposing their wierd foreign religion on them. the religion was adopted willingly not forced on them in the vast majority of cases Christianity sells Edited January 24, 2022 by Yzermandius19 1 Quote
blackbird Posted January 24, 2022 Report Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Queenmandy85 said: The first Nations had the same problem with all these Europeans coming in, stealing everything and imposing their wierd foreign religion on them. Some missionaries would have taught them about the true God of the Bible versus the false gods some aboriginals were worshiping. Most Canadians do not understand this because Canada is largely a heathen country today. That is why I say Canada is becoming more like a third world country, a natural result of mass immigration from heathen nations. Concerning north American aboriginal beliefs: "Great Spirit and Worldviews Many Indigenous peoples subscribe to the idea of a Creator, Great Spirit or Great Mystery — a power or being that has created the world and everything in it. These beings are often described as good or well-intentioned, though dangerous if treated carelessly or with disrespect. Great spiritual power is also found in the spirits of all living things, natural phenomena and ritually significant places. In general, supernatural mystery or power is called Orenda by the Haudenosaunee, Wakan by the Dakota and Manitou by the Algonquian peoples. This power is a property of the spirits, but also belongs to transformers, tricksters, culture heroes, or other spirit figures, as well as shamans, prophets and ceremonial performers. Ritual objects such as the calumet, rattles, drums, masks, medicine wheels, medicine bundles and ritual sanctuaries are filled with spiritual power." Religion and Spirituality of Indigenous Peoples in Canada | The Canadian Encyclopedia Edited January 24, 2022 by blackbird Quote
Nefarious Banana Posted January 24, 2022 Report Posted January 24, 2022 4 hours ago, blackbird said: Some missionaries would have taught them about the true God of the Bible versus the false gods some aboriginals were worshiping. The basis of the NA native belief system is mother earth, father sky . . . . they lived that everyday. It could treat you good or kill you. Then along come the pale people . . . telling about following a star, birth without copulation, burning in their hell, etc., etc., bla,bla bla. Your post is so much elk shit. How arrogant can you be . . . . Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted January 24, 2022 Report Posted January 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Nefarious Banana said: The basis of the NA native belief system is mother earth, father sky . . . . they lived that everyday. It could treat you good or kill you. Then along come the pale people . . . telling about following a star, birth without copulation, burning in their hell, etc., etc., bla,bla bla. Your post is so much elk shit. How arrogant can you be . . . . Christianity was clearly a big upgrade hence why the natives willingly adopted it Quote
blackbird Posted January 24, 2022 Report Posted January 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nefarious Banana said: The basis of the NA native belief system is mother earth, father sky . . . . they lived that everyday. It could treat you good or kill you. Then along come the pale people . . . telling about following a star, birth without copulation, burning in their hell, etc., etc., bla,bla bla. Your post is so much elk shit. How arrogant can you be . . . . We have lots of mother earth worshipers in the environmental movement who want to save the trees and whales, etc. It's a false religion that is having consequences. If you don't want to believe in the virgin birth, etc. that's your choice. Don't throw bull at those who believe it. Nothing arrogant about holding Biblical beliefs. Quote
myata Posted January 29, 2022 Report Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) "The invisible man". Edited January 29, 2022 by myata Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Nefarious Banana Posted January 30, 2022 Report Posted January 30, 2022 On 1/23/2022 at 9:39 PM, blackbird said: We have lots of mother earth worshipers in the environmental movement who want to save the trees and whales, etc. It's a false religion that is having consequences. If you don't want to believe in the virgin birth, etc. that's your choice. Don't throw bull at those who believe it. Nothing arrogant about holding Biblical beliefs. You have no concept of the western NA native religions. It's not about 'saving' everything . . . . Your religion is the false one. Quote
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