eyeball Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, ironstone said: There has always been misinformation, wrong information , conflicting information out there but now there is a concerted effort to control what information people are allowed to see. I would rather be able to hear from all sides and not have the censorship which comes mainly from the left. Outlaw in-camera lobbying. Note you heard this suggestion from a lefty. Edited January 23, 2022 by eyeball 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 24 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: 1. The Sun article indicates it's a bad idea for government to be involved in funding media outlets at all, no matter who's getting some. 2. Your whataboutisms while perhaps true do not take away from the fact that vast amounts of public money are being poured down the drain here. Not to mention what Canadians are getting in return: Government sanctioned misinformation. 1. Not media, broadcasters. In fact, there would be more ad revenue for the private sector under this plan. 2. It's all arm's length, which is evidenced by the very Sun article we're quoting. And again, they didn't mention that their own editorial is government funded. Takes the wind out of their argument.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. Not media, broadcasters. In fact, there would be more ad revenue for the private sector under this plan. 2. It's all arm's length, which is evidenced by the very Sun article we're quoting. And again, they didn't mention that their own editorial is government funded. Takes the wind out of their argument.... no it doesn't the argument is sound government should not be bribing the media 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) What we see here from people who subscribe to the official narrative (conspiracy theorists): 1. Confronted with factual information about masks or vaccines. 2. Yell, scream, resort to ad hominems. 3. Claim moral high ground. 4. Proven wrong 5. Double down, ignore or gaslight. 6. Move on to their next conspiracy theory. Seen it all throughout Covid and their coverage of Trump. Edited January 23, 2022 by West Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: the argument is sound The argument being "the government is funding the media because the media will now only allow pro-government comments" being made by funded media ? It's false by self-contradiction. If it were true, then how would the comment itself have been allowed ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: The argument being "the government is funding the media because the media will now only allow pro-government comments" being made by funded media ? It's false by self-contradiction. If it were true, then how would the comment itself have been allowed ? the argument is that the government is funding media because they shill for them and are more likely to shill for them when bribed Edited January 23, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: and are more likely to shill for them when bribed OK - I actually agree with this part, so fine. But the comment is, paradoxically, evidence against itself.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: OK - I actually agree with this part, so fine. But the comment is, paradoxically, evidence against itself.... no it isn't the existence of an outlier doesn't disprove the generality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: the existence of an outlier doesn't disprove the generality I didn't say proof, I said evidence. Quit while you're ahead - you got a few nibbles of response from me be thankful.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: I didn't say proof, I said evidence. outliers exist whoop dee doo Edited January 23, 2022 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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