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Joe Biden & Covid- the Perfect Election Fraud Duo


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Under the cover of covid fear, Biden's main campaign strategy was to let CNN and the rest of the MSM use their 'news programming' as 24/7 attack ads on Trump, backed by 'polling data', while he hid in his basement, mumbling pre-recorded elevator speeches every third day.

The media sold his hiding as: "Biden is setting a good example by hiding from covid! He doesn't have to answer any questions from us because we love him no matter what!" At the same time Trump's fearlessness and dedication to his job in the face of a bit of danger was labelled "COVID RECKLESSNESS & A DANGEROUS EXAMPLE!!!!!" while somehow 24 yr old ER nurses with nothing to fear from C19 were branded as heroes by the media for just showing up to their jobs.

 

The 2020 election differed greatly from other election in that Americans could normally get a sense of how much support each candidate had by the number of people showing up at their rallies, but in 2020 that was not the case at all. The only indications that Biden had any support at all came from polling sites and CNN's opinion desk. He averaged 100 or less people per 'rally', despite the fact that he only had 1/5th as many rallies as most presidential candidates have. A grand total of about 10,000 people in the whole country came out to see Biden - the silence was deafening. And despite the fact that he had so much time at home, he didn't even bother to do any social media. He just hid. "Heroically"

Ironically, in an age where candidates have more opportunity than ever to show their face to the public (almost for free when you consider the cost of social media), Biden was a ghost. Americans saw less of Biden's incoherent, mumbling face than they saw of any candidate since the guys on their dollar bills, who ran before TV was invented. 

Honestly, all we have to indicate to us that Biden really won the election was some mass mail-in ballots, some polling 'data', and CNN's opinion. And just remember that CNN spent all 4 years from 2016 to 2020 saying that the 2016 election was completely fraudulent, and yet for some reason they were confidently certifying the 2020 election fraud-free by 10 pm on election night 2020. How did a company that was as deeply skeptical of elections as CNN for 4 years suddenly become believers well in advance of the 2020 results if they weren't told to say that in advance?

 

Regardless of whether people believe that the 2020 election actually was stolen, it's a pretty dangerous precedent to set by allowing a candidate to be elected on nothing more than the strength of polling data, media opinions and mail-in ballots. Hollywood can just declare the next president every 4 years if that's the case. 

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Keep the delusion going, WestCan.  Now honourable Republicans are revealing the President attempted illegal interference in the Arizona counts.  Despicable and not surprising his approvals continue to fall...

You really should stop posting on this topic, ,when Republicans at ground zero are contradicting you, you have nothing left....

https://californianewstimes.com/arizona-republic-trump-allies-pressured-maricopa-county-election-supervisors/424556/
 

In the weeks following the 2020 elections, former President Donald Trump’s White House tried to call the chairman of the Maricopa County Supervisory Board.Report from Arizona Republic It was released on Friday. The attempted call was part of a pressure campaign led by then-individual attorney Rudy Giuliani and Arizona GOP chairman Kelli Ward, with Republican Clint Hickman, then chairman of the oversight committee.

The attempted call was part of a pressure campaign led by then-individual attorney Rudy Giuliani and Arizona GOP chairman Kelli Ward, with Republican Clint Hickman, then chairman of the oversight committee. Persuaded members of other elected organizations.Oversee elections Maricopa County According to records obtained by the Republic, it is announced that there was irregular voting in the county as election-related proceedings continued in the state.

Hickman told the Republic that he allowed the phone to be sent to voicemail. So the White House operator asked Hickman to call the president again. He didn’t answer the phone, he told the Republic. CNN asked Hickman for comment.

“That’s not surprising,” Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbes told CNN’s Michael Smerconish at “Quomo Prime Time” on Friday night. “I suspected that there were some attempts to undermine the elections here, but they are now clearly on tape. And, as you know, Arizona law is on elections. Interference makes it clear that it violates the law, which is exactly what it looks like. “

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Can anyone say with 100% certainty that mail-in ballots are every bit as secure as in person voting? Were there no strange results in the 2020 election. Biden get's more ballots than any candidate in history, easily surpassing Obama's numbers, and yet the Democrats lost ground in the House. Biden is way more popular than Obama? Who knew that all along it was Obama riding Biden's coattails?😆

A statistically impossible election (publish0x.com)

Voter Fraud Never Happens! (Except in These 10,000 Cases) - Ann Coulter

If people are suspicious of the 2020 election, so what? What's the difference between saying the 2020 and 2016 elections were stolen. The election cannot be undone and everyone has to live with the results.

It's not as though there has never been a single case of voter fraud in the US  before. It's almost funny that Democrats have the ability to "find" more votes in close races they have apparently lost. I totally accept that Biden is President(at least in theory). I do think democracies should also strive to make elections more secure and I believe in person voting with ID is hard to beat.

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44 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Can anyone say with 100% certainty that mail-in ballots are every bit as secure as in person voting?  

How about Trump appointee Bill Barr, and an increasing number of sane Republicans ?  See below
 

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5 minutes ago, ironstone said:

 Are mail in ballots equally secure as in person voting where ID is required? Yes or no?

Does it matter?  If a certain level of security is mandated then all methods of voting that reach that level should be allowed.

It appears that the last election in the US was without any fraud that might have conceivably affected the outcome, so whatever was allowed then should be fine.  Efforts should also be made to ensure any voters who did not manage to vote in that election, for whatever reason other than sloth, are able to in the next.

 

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I guess the point I'm trying to make is everyone should get to voice their opinion. Hillary Clinton claims to this day that the 2016 election was stolen from her and she has every right to make that claim. She has not been prevented from saying so and hasn't been censored on Facebook, Twitter or Youtube. Why the blatant double standard for Donald Trump with his similar concerns for the 2020 election? Why does the angry Democrat get to speak out on all social media platforms while the angry Republican get's censored? 

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10 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

It appears that the last election in the US was without any fraud that might have conceivably affected the outcome, so whatever was allowed then should be fine. 

 

 

I have never understood this perspective and dismissal of any voting fraud because it may not have impacted the outcome of an election.   Doesn't make any sense...as if voting fraud is to be tolerated at any level. 

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9 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

I have never understood this perspective and dismissal of any voting fraud because it may not have impacted the outcome of an election.   Doesn't make any sense...as if voting fraud is to be tolerated at any level. 

And I've never understood the frantic fervour around the actions of a few voters in a population of over a hundred and fifty million  trying to mess with the system for no real reason other than stupidity.  

Make every effort possible to let every eligible person vote, and then weed out the dozen or who mistakenly voted twice or for their great grandad or whatever.

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4 minutes ago, ironstone said:

I guess the point I'm trying to make is everyone should get to voice their opinion. Hillary Clinton claims to this day that the 2016 election was stolen from her and she has every right to make that claim. She has not been prevented from saying so and hasn't been censored on Facebook, Twitter or Youtube. Why the blatant double standard for Donald Trump with his similar concerns for the 2020 election? Why does the angry Democrat get to speak out on all social media platforms while the angry Republican get's censored? 

Trump also encouraged his supporters to actively and violently take his presidency back.  Hillary did not.  That is a key difference.  Trump's rhetoric encouraged insurrection.  Hillary's claims did not.   

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6 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Trump also encouraged his supporters to actively and violently take his presidency back.  Hillary did not.  That is a key difference.  Trump's rhetoric encouraged insurrection.  Hillary's claims did not.   

Fact Check: Did Trump Say to 'Peacefully and Patriotically' March to the Capitol? (newsweek.com)

Is Trump actually on record saying explicitly that he wants his supporters to use violence to take back the Presidency? 

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3 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

And I've never understood the frantic fervour around the actions of a few voters in a population of over a hundred million  trying to mess with the system for no real reason other than stupidity. 

 

But it is not just stupidity...voting fraud is a felony for a reason.

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22 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Fact Check: Did Trump Say to 'Peacefully and Patriotically' March to the Capitol? (newsweek.com)

Is Trump actually on record saying explicitly that he wants his supporters to use violence to take back the Presidency? 

Read his rhetoric.  He paid lip service to peacefulness once or twice, but the rest was about doing whatever it took to "stop the steal".   Also, look up "plausible deniability".  It means being just obscure enough in your speech so that later you can claim "I didn't say that".  Trump, and his believers, are using that to pretend he didn't encourage storming the capital to "stop the steal."  But plausible deniability only works when people want to believe.  It's a tactic people use to gaslight others.

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Ok so does that mean there isn't any actual evidence as in specific instructions to commit acts of violence? It seems that you're choosing to interpret his words as you see fit. A lot of politicians use rhetoric by the way.

Here is what Joe Biden said two years ago in a speech at the University of Miami, speaking of Donald Trump:

"I said, if we were in high school, I'd take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him."

Now any reasonable person wouldn't take a comment like that too seriously, but it's just what politicians say in the heat of the moment.

There are some real examples of politicians going way too far. How about Maxine Watters ? What pushback does she ever get from her incendiary public statements? Or does she get a pass because she's black and a Democrat?

“Let’s make sure we show up wherever we have to show up. And if you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.” Maxine Watters

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46 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Ok so does that mean there isn't any actual evidence as in specific instructions to commit acts of violence? It seems that you're choosing to interpret his words as you see fit. A lot of politicians use rhetoric by the way.

Here is what Joe Biden said two years ago in a speech at the University of Miami, speaking of Donald Trump:

"I said, if we were in high school, I'd take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him."

Now any reasonable person wouldn't take a comment like that too seriously, but it's just what politicians say in the heat of the moment.

There are some real examples of politicians going way too far. How about Maxine Watters ? What pushback does she ever get from her incendiary public statements? Or does she get a pass because she's black and a Democrat?

“Let’s make sure we show up wherever we have to show up. And if you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.” Maxine Watters

I agree with you that incendiary statements made by Maxine Watters, or anyone, are wrong and that democrats ought to have censured her.

Still, is Maxine the most powerful individual on earth?  And was there any concerted effort to do what she said?  Leaders lead; they should be more careful abut what they say, not less, and they should not be given a pass for partisan reasons. 

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6 hours ago, dialamah said:

I agree with you that incendiary statements made by Maxine Watters, or anyone, are wrong and that democrats ought to have censured her.

Still, is Maxine the most powerful individual on earth?  And was there any concerted effort to do what she said?  Leaders lead; they should be more careful abut what they say, not less, and they should not be given a pass for partisan reasons. 

Yes there are examples of Republicans getting harassed in public places. Steve Scalise?

14 Times Republican Officials Viciously Harassed, Threatened With Death (thefederalist.com)

Waters Encourages Public Harassment of Trump Administration Officials: ‘Create a Crowd … Tell Them They’re Not Welcome’ (freebeacon.com)

Democrats DID NOT  hold Watters to account for her incendiary statements. Neither did the MSM. Violence is apparently acceptable if progressives are doing it.

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26 minutes ago, ironstone said:

 

Democrats DID NOT  hold Watters to account for her incendiary statements. Neither did the MSM. Violence is apparently acceptable if progressives are doing it.

I agree.  So, would agree that both should be held accountable, Maxine by Democrats and Trump by Republicans and both by the media?  

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13 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Keep the delusion going, WestCan.  

Get a grip MH. There's no "delusion" at all.

Biden had a handful of rallies, most of which were small for a High School President election. That's a fact, not delusion.

How is it possible that no one wanted to come see his rallies yet he got 15M more votes than Obama?

Are you stupid enough to believe that mail-in ballots without signature verification of any sort is a secure way to hold a federal election? Are you aware of the history of election mail fraud? It's almost normal.

Do you really believe that using ID for voting is racist?

Why is it that the Dems, who got caught cheating 3x on the 2020 election (even if you don't count the use of the FBI as a political tool), have so many election reforms that all seem so voter-fraud-friendly and yet you are completely without suspicion?

It's normal to be suspicious of people who are known cheaters. 

Why are they so adamant that groups, who are openly supporting one candidate or the other, should be allowed to approach voters in polling lineups to "give them water"? Don't you think that could be intimidating for some people? Do you want the Bloods, Crips, Hell's Angels or MS-13 coming up to you at the polling station and offering you water? 

The Dems are huge cheaters and all of their election ideas are so dumb it's laughable.

Honestly, if Trump was the one who said that voter ID should be illegal and mass-mailed ballots are a great idea you'd see through it in an instant. 

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12 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

How about Trump appointee Bill Barr, and an increasing number of sane Republicans ?  See below

Just because the GOP couldn't prove that there was widespread fraud in 2020 doesn't mean that it was non-existent.

The Dems chose the easiest possible election reforms to get away with fraud, and then no one could find evidence of fraud. Shocker.

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11 hours ago, dialamah said:

Trump also encouraged his supporters to actively and violently take his presidency back.  Hillary did not.  That is a key difference.  Trump's rhetoric encouraged insurrection.  Hillary's claims did not.   

You're lying dialamah.

Where did Trump ever advocate for violence? Where did he advocate for people to take the presidency back by force?

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2 hours ago, dialamah said:

I agree.  So, would agree that both should be held accountable, Maxine by Democrats and Trump by Republicans and both by the media?  

So you agree now, but you weren't offended before. How is that a thing? 

Do you feel like you have to admit that what Maxine did was wrong now, in order to complain when other people did the same thing?

Congratz - your level of hypocrisy is no longer set to "Liberal". Careful or the mob might come for you next. 

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