Aristides Posted June 16, 2021 Report Posted June 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, Iceni warrior said: I love coal like an Irishman loves sobriety on St Patrick's day. I don't know why so many Canadians think they can save the world by making themselves poorer and other countries richer. This problem has to be solved at the consumer end. Quote
Iceni warrior Posted June 16, 2021 Report Posted June 16, 2021 Just now, Aristides said: I don't know why so many Canadians think they can save the world by making themselves poorer and other countries richer. This problem has to be solved at the consumer end. You'll have to ask a Canadian about that. I'm from the land of the Iceni. With just enough Irish blood to get an EU passport. Quote
Dougie93 Posted June 16, 2021 Report Posted June 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Iceni warrior said: Maggie was right for all the wrong reasons. I could have told you that, back in 1979 Quote
Nefarious Banana Posted June 16, 2021 Report Posted June 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Iceni warrior said: I'm from the land of the Iceni. With just enough Irish blood to get an EU passport. Living on a diet of ginger ale, ginger snaps, and living in a ginger bread house . . . . Quote
Iceni warrior Posted June 16, 2021 Report Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: I could have told you that, back in 1979 Back in '79 I'd have agreed with you. By '87 I was with The Larks... Edited June 16, 2021 by Iceni warrior Quote
Argus Posted June 16, 2021 Author Report Posted June 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Iceni warrior said: Ah, the ''if we don't do it someone else will'' argument. If I don't sell my dog to the Korean restaurant someone else will sell them one... That's a dumb comparison. What do you accomplish by not selling coal? Nothing. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Dougie93 Posted June 16, 2021 Report Posted June 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, Iceni warrior said: By '87 Funkytown was still 99 on the top 100, 8 years after being released Quote
Iceni warrior Posted June 16, 2021 Report Posted June 16, 2021 Just now, Argus said: That's a dumb comparison. What do you accomplish by not selling coal? Nothing. Virtue and the moral high ground. Alien concepts to some I'm sure. For the love of money is the root of all of evil - Timothy 6:10 Quote
Iceni warrior Posted June 16, 2021 Report Posted June 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Dougie93 said: Funkytown was still 99 on the top 100, 8 years after being released Chaz is going to bring down righteous indignation upon us if we keep straying too far from the topic at hand. Quote
Dougie93 Posted June 16, 2021 Report Posted June 16, 2021 Just now, Iceni warrior said: Chaz is going to bring down righteous indignation upon us if we keep straying too far from the topic at hand. can't kill an idea Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted June 17, 2021 Report Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Iceni warrior said: Virtue and the moral high ground. Alien concepts to some I'm sure. that and the exact fare will get you a ride on the shitty centrally planned public transit whoop dee doo if it wasn't for coal, the environment would be worse off than it is today the trees would thank it, if they could Edited June 17, 2021 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted June 17, 2021 Report Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, Iceni warrior said: The right is always good at mislabelling environmentalists as ''the Left''. Coal is going the way of the steam engine and about time too. when the "environmentalists" demonize the free market and claim the only acceptable solutions are centrally planned boondoggles then they are clearly just leftists masquerading as environmentalists for branding purposes and care more about economic control than they do about the environment they also make real environmentalists look bad by association and sully the brand Edited June 17, 2021 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Iceni warrior Posted June 17, 2021 Report Posted June 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: that and the exact fare will get you a ride on the shitty centrally planned public transit whoop dee doo if it wasn't for coal, the environment would be worse off than it is today the trees would thank it, if they could Poppycock. How many wood fired power stations are there in the world? Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted June 17, 2021 Report Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Iceni warrior said: Poppycock. How many wood fired power stations are there in the world? wood used to be the number one fuel source in the world prior to fossil fuels taking that spot this lead to heavy deforestation, particularly in Europe ever since the fossil fuels took over as that fuel source since the industrial revolution, forests in Europe have been rebounding the first to start using fossil fuels heavily were also the first to dial back the deforestation significantly this is common historical knowledge that obviously is not well known in "environmentalist" circles that are demonizing fossil fuel usage many real environmentalists are well aware of these historical facts, but they are not the public faces of the environmental movement, the lefties have that on lock Edited June 17, 2021 by Yzermandius19 1 Quote
Argus Posted June 17, 2021 Author Report Posted June 17, 2021 23 hours ago, Iceni warrior said: Virtue and the moral high ground. Alien concepts to some I'm sure. For the love of money is the root of all of evil - Timothy 6:10 Timothy had God to heal him. The rest of us need public health care, which costs a shitload of money. 1 Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Iceni warrior Posted June 17, 2021 Report Posted June 17, 2021 12 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: wood used to be the number one fuel source in the world prior to fossil fuels taking that spot this lead to heavy deforestation, particularly in Europe ever since the fossil fuels took over as that fuel source since the industrial revolution, forests in Europe have been rebounding the first to start using fossil fuels heavily were also the first to dial back the deforestation significantly this is common historical knowledge that obviously is not well known in "environmentalist" circles that are demonizing fossil fuel usage many real environmentalists are well aware of these historical facts, but they are not the public faces of the environmental movement, the lefties have that on lock More poppycock. Agriculture was the main cause of deforestation in Europe. It was the need to feed the population that led to the change of land use away from forests and towards food production. It wasn't the need for fuel. Shipbuilding caused more deforestation than burning wood for fuel. Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted June 18, 2021 Report Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Iceni warrior said: More poppycock. Agriculture was the main cause of deforestation in Europe. It was the need to feed the population that led to the change of land use away from forests and towards food production. It wasn't the need for fuel. Shipbuilding caused more deforestation than burning wood for fuel then comes oil and you don't need to cut down as much trees for farmland, because it's far more productive with proper fertilizer fossil fuel doubly whammy to save the trees when it comes to shipbuilding, innovations of the industrial revolution led to move away from wood ships to metal ships as well economic success is not bad for the environment, just the opposite, free market ftw the cleanest and least polluted cities and countryside reside in the most economically developed nations for a reason and the dirtiest and most polluted cities and countryside reside in the least economically developed nations for a reason if one is a real environmentalist they would stop blaming the free market for environmental problems and start leveraging it for environmental solutions being a Luddite is antithetical to being an environmentalist, this is what the historical record indicates Edited June 18, 2021 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Aristides Posted June 19, 2021 Report Posted June 19, 2021 On 6/14/2021 at 8:34 PM, Yzermandius19 said: the BC rainforest is already saved 85% of it is protected from logging mission accomplished what are you whining about? I 85% of what? 85% of nothing is still nothing. Quote
Army Guy Posted June 21, 2021 Report Posted June 21, 2021 On 6/16/2021 at 7:35 PM, Iceni warrior said: Virtue and the moral high ground. Alien concepts to some I'm sure. For the love of money is the root of all of evil - Timothy 6:10 Virtue and moral high ground has not filled anyone's stomach that i know off. anyone that has gone hungry can you that.... But money makes the world go round- some guy that thought he could eat virtue and morals Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Dougie93 Posted June 21, 2021 Report Posted June 21, 2021 14 hours ago, Army Guy said: But money makes the world go round without brave men prepared to kill & die to defend your sovereign, all the bankers would be overrun in a fortnight Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted June 21, 2021 Report Posted June 21, 2021 On 6/19/2021 at 7:48 PM, Aristides said: 85% of what? 85% of nothing is still nothing. it ain't nothing though, so your point is moot Quote
Aristides Posted June 21, 2021 Report Posted June 21, 2021 47 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: it ain't nothing though, so your point is moot It ain't nothing, it's less than 20% of BC forest and 18% of the harvestable land base. 85% is a meaningless number. Quote
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