Many defenseless civilians killed in Israeli brutal attacks and Arab retaliations.

[Dougie93]

Just now, DogOnPorch said:

 

To someone who is unaware of the nature of cobalt-60...certainly. This doesn't go away after a few weeks or months...we're talking decades if not centuries.

it's not a tactical nuclear weapon, so it is not a more significant threat than the already entrenched balance of terror

the only likely strategic thermonuclear war is massive interpolar exchange by accident, launch on false warning

some supposed Israeli doomsday weapon which is not even made to be used, doesn't add much to the threat

[Yzermandius19]

3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

If they're being overrun by Arab enemies.

You expect them to surrender, eh?

not surrender

they aren't going to be overrun in the first place

that isn't a realistic threat at all

they'd kick the arabs ass before they came anywhere near doing that

with or without cobalt

therefore the cobalt kamikaze is irrelevant

Edited May 28, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

If they're being overrun by Arab enemies.

You expect them to surrender, eh?

if they are being overrun it would be too late

even if this cobalt bomb exists, there is absolutely no evidence it is operationalized

it's certainly not sitting alert ready to launch in the face of being overrun

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

not surrender

they aren't going to be overrun in the first place

they kick the arabs ass before they came anywhere near doing that

with or without cobalt

therefore the cobalt is irrelevant

 

I'll let the IDF know about your revelation. Perhaps they'll disarm the device for you.

[Dougie93]

Just now, DogOnPorch said:

I'll let the IDF know about your revelation. Perhaps they'll disarm the device for you.

there is no evidence the device even exists, even less evidence that it is operationalized

so you are really just engaging in fantasy here by default

[Yzermandius19]

2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

I'll let the IDF know about your revelation.

no need

the IDF is well aware already

even if you are not

Edited May 28, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

if they are being overrun it would be too late

even if this cobalt bomb exists, there is absolutely no evidence it is operationalized

it's certainly not sitting alert ready to launch in the face of being overrun

 

Not ever too late for a cobalt device...just set it off.

[Dougie93]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

no need

the IDF is well aware already

even if you are not

moreover, a nuclear weapon which is hidden away serves no purpose

if nobody knows it exists, then it is not a deterrent, so it is useless

the whole concept of an Israeli secret doomsday device is nonsensical by logical deduction

if this really was the Israeli ace in the whole, that would make them idiots by extrapolation

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

moreover, a nuclear weapon which is hidden away serves no purpose

if nobody knows it exists, then it is not a deterrent, so it is useless

the whole concept of an Israeli secret doomsday device is nonsensical by logical deduction

if this really was the Israeli ace in the whole, that would make them idiots by extrapolation

 

The Samson Option isn't hidden. 

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Not ever too late for a cobalt device...just set it off.

you wait until you are being overrun, then blow yourselves up, because the cobalt weapon did not deter anyone

stupidity on the face of it, logic provides

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

you wait until you are being overrun, then blow yourselves up, because the cobalt weapon did not deter anyone

stupidity on the face of it, logic provides

 

You don't seem to be able to understand that if Israel loses...everybody loses.

That's the plan.

[Dougie93]

Just now, DogOnPorch said:

 

The Samson Option isn't hidden. 

whatever, you've trailed off into comic book fantasy now, this is getting silly

[Yzermandius19]

1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

You don't seem to be able to understand that if Israel loses...everybody loses.

That's the plan.

they have infinitely better plans

they don't need the world's dumbest plan

[Dougie93]

Just now, DogOnPorch said:

 

You don't seem to be able to understand that if Israel loses...everybody loses.

That's the plan.

no, I simply don't care about a supposed Israeli doomsday weapon for which there is no evidence of existence

furthermore, a nuclear deterrent which is so hidden,  is stupid on the face of it, as that defeats the whole purpose

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

whatever, you've trailed off into comic book fantasy now, this is getting silly

 

You're convinced that Israel will always win 100% of the time in every situation. Israel isn't convinced...thus the Samson Option. 

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

they have infinitely better plans

they don't need the world's dumbest plan

 

Such as?

[Dougie93]

Just now, DogOnPorch said:

 

You're convinced that Israel will always win 100% of the time in every situation. Israel isn't convinced...thus the Samson Option. 

basically you are asserting that the Israelis are idiots who don't understand how nuclear deterrence works

/shrugs

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

basically you are asserting that the Israelis are idiots who don't understand how nuclear deterrence works

/shrugs

 

Another who thinks "Never Again" is merely a slogan.

[Yzermandius19]

4 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

Such as?

such as having a military formidable enough

that being overrun is not a realistic threat

especially from the Arabs

cobalt kamikaze is just stupid

Edited May 28, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Another who thinks "Never Again" is merely a slogan.

it's quite simple really

a strategic nuclear weapon exists for one purpose, to deter a war in the first place

the only way that works is if you brandish the weapon for all to see, so that it deters them

a strategic nuclear weapon hidden away so that it is only useful for suicide once you are being overrun ?

that is patent idiocy on the face of it

/shrugs

[DogOnPorch]

2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

such as having a military formidable enough

that being overrun is not a threat

cobalt kamikaze is just stupid

 

You can pretend if you must that I made it up.

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

it's quite simple really

a strategic nuclear weapon exists for one purpose, to deter a war in the first place

the only way that works is if you brandish the weapon for all to see, so that it deters them

a strategic nuclear weapon hidden away so that it is only useful for suicide once you are being overrun ?

that is patent idiocy on the face of it

/shrugs

 

Right...I can see the Jews just strolling right back into those gas chambers willingly, too.

[Yzermandius19]

Just now, DogOnPorch said:

You can pretend if you must that I made it up.

even if it did exist and was operational

that would make no difference

your point is irrelevant

even if your fantasy was real

[Yzermandius19]

1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said:

Right...I can see the Jews just strolling right back into those gas chambers willingly, too.

again

they do not need a cobalt device to prevent that

so what use is that device?

Edited May 28, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

even if it did exist and was operational

that would make no difference

your point is irrelevant

even if your fantasy was real

 

You can pretend that I invented the Samson Option and cobalt devices if you must.