Many defenseless civilians killed in Israeli brutal attacks and Arab retaliations.

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

You maybe surprised to learn that it is you and your kind that are playing right into the hands of Hamas and other Arab terrorists. They feed on hate and every time that Israel bombs and kills civilians caught in crossfire they create hate and more Hamas supporters and soldiers. There is so much hate in this thread (like you saying about bombing the fuck out of Arabs) that the devil is dancing in hell.

but the Arabs have been losing this war against Israel for decades now

Israel is totally ascendant, so much so that the Arabs have sided with Israel, led by Saudi Arabia itself

this has literally forced the Arab terrorists to seek the support of the Arabs greatest enemies, the Persians in Tehran

Israel is winning, Israel is winning the long war and the short wars, this is just self harm by the Palestinians now

[Dougie93]

all the Arab states, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the Gulf Monarchies & Jordan, have accepted Israel

they are now in a de facto alliance with Israel against the common Persian enemy in Iran

Iran is imply using the hapless impoverished Gazans as cannon fodder

in a larger theatre war against both Israel & the Arabs, they are attacking the Arabs in Yemen at the same time

[DogOnPorch]

29 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

You maybe surprised to learn that it is you and your kind that are playing right into the hands of Hamas and other Arab terrorists. They feed on hate and every time that Israel bombs and kills civilians caught in crossfire they create hate and more Hamas supporters and soldiers. There is so much hate in this thread (like you saying about bombing the fuck out of Arabs) that the devil is dancing in hell.

 

That you want to give terrorists with Nazi roots a break isn't my problem. Nor is it Israel's. Go to Gaza if you believe so strongly in Hamas's methodology. 

[Dougie93]

16 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

That you want to give terrorists with Nazi roots a break isn't my problem. Nor is it Israel's. Go to Gaza if you believe so strongly in Hamas's methodology. 

technically, even the Nazis were not opposed to Zionism

under the Haavara agreement of 25 August 1933, the Nazis agreed to allow Jews to emigrate to British Palestine

this actually saved 60,000 Jews who escaped Nazi Germany to Israel between 1933-1939

if Israel had existed in 1933 it's unlikely the Holocaust would even have happened, certainly not the same scale

Edited May 27, 2021 by Dougie93

[DogOnPorch]

11 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

technically, even the Nazis were not opposed to Zionism

under the Haavara agreement of 25 August 1933, the Nazis agreed to allow Jews to emigrate to British Palestine

this actually saved 60,000 Jews who escaped Nazi Germany to Israel between 1933-1939

if Israel had existed in 1933 it's unlikely the Holocaust would even have happened, certainly not the same scale

 

Sure...right up until they didn't support it. Also, any Jews fleeing Germany pre-WW2 were expected to leave all property and bank accounts in German trust...yah right. We call that state robbery these days.

The Final Solution...when the bulk of the Jews were murdered, didn't get underway until very late 1941. Before then it was hit & miss methods with the terrible Einsatzgruppen being the most effective. 

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Sure...right up until they didn't support it. Also, any Jews fleeing Germany pre-WW2 were expected to leave all property and bank accounts in German trust...yah right. We call that state robbery these days.

The Final Solution...when the bulk of the Jews were murdered, didn't get underway until very late 1941. Before then it was hit & miss methods with the terrible Einsatzgruppen being the most effective. 

 in 1933 mass liquidation was not the Nazi plan, mass deportation was the plan

in terms of seizing assets, that beats being gassed to death

if more Jews had realized what was coming, more would have fled

it was the old frogs in slowly boiling water problem

the Nazi onslaught didn't happen overnight, it was creeping

[Dougie93]

at the end of the day it was the Zionists who made the deal with the Nazis

  because they wanted Jews to flee

leave everything behind, Exodus to Palestine to make it Israel, as soon as possible

it was only after it was too late that most Jews realized that Zionism was the only sanctuary

then the Exodus happened very quickly, in 1948

bear in mind that before the war Canada would not even take the Jews

Liberal Prime Minister MacKenzie King said "one Jew is too many"

when asked how many Jews Canada would take

Canada was virulently anti-Semitic at the time

a union of Orange Order Protestants & The Roman Catholic Church

Edited May 27, 2021 by Dougie93

[DogOnPorch]

13 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

at the end of the day it was the Zionists who made the deal with the Nazis

 

 

The Zionists tried to make a deal with the Nazis, you mean. The Nazis had no intention of honoring any such agreement with Jews.

As well, German Zionists were a fraction of the German Jewish population...many who were non-observant and thought themselves good loyal Germans...first.

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

The Zionists tried to make a deal with the Nazis, you mean. The Nazis had no intention of honoring any such agreement with Jews.

indeed, but it really came down to saving as many Jews as you could, by any means available

just get out, anyway you can, get to Israel, survive, live to fight another day

[Dougie93]

and now at this point, Israel is a nuclear power which could crush any European country in any military contest

so it worked, they lived to fight another day, and now they are invincible, the Nazis don't stand a chance against them

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

indeed, but it really came down to saving as many Jews as you could, by any means available

just get out, anyway you can, get to Israel, survive, live to fight another day

 

Turkey eventually threw a wrench into all that by refusing to let anymore Axis Minor Jews in for cash payment. The Axis Minor nations had skirted the call to eliminate the Jews by ramping-up deportations. When the Grand Mufti caught wind that the Jews he sought to eliminate were escaping to the British Mandate of Palestine, he and Eichmann began the last great act of the Holocaust...eliminating the remaining Jews in Hungary, Rumania and Bulgaria themselves (SS special handling) rather than letting the locals take care of the 'problem'. 

[DogOnPorch]

2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

and now at this point, Israel is a nuclear power which could crush any European country in any military contest

so it worked, they lived to fight another day, and now they are invincible, the Nazis don't stand a chance against them

The unspoken rumor is that not only has Israel developed their own hydrogen bombs, they also have a set-place working cobalt device for any situation that has Israel being overrun by enemies...

You want Israel and all the Middle East to yourself? Well enjoy the blistering levels of cobalt-60...suckers.

[Dougie93]

Just now, DogOnPorch said:

The unspoken rumor is that not only has Israel developed their own hydrogen bombs, they also have a set-place working cobalt device for any situation that has Israel being overrun by enemies...

You want Israel and all the Middle East to yourself? Well enjoy the blistering levels of cobalt-60...suckers.

that wouldn't even be necessary

hydrogen bombs is enough

for example even the Russians could not prevail against the IDF

the IDF could sink the Russian fleet at Tartus and there wouldn't be much Moscow could do about it

it's not like Moscow is going to blow itself up in a nuclear war over the Eastern Mediterranean

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

that wouldn't even be necessary

hydrogen bombs is enough

for example even the Russians could not prevail against the IDF

the IDF could sink the Russian fleet at Tartus and there wouldn't be much Moscow could do about it

it's not like Moscow is going to blow itself up in a nuclear war over the Eastern Mediterranean

 

The rumor is they have a working cobalt device...no need to launch it at anything. Just set it off...

[Dougie93]

Just now, DogOnPorch said:

 

The rumor is they have a working cobalt device...no need to launch it at anything. Just set it off...

even the Americans held an exercise which was America vs the IDF

and according to the American assessment, the Israelis won the war, without having to use nuclear weapons at all

[DogOnPorch]

3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

even the Americans held an exercise which was America vs the IDF

and according to the American assessment, the Israelis won the war, without having to use nuclear weapons at all

 

None-the-less...the rumor is that Israel made a working cobalt device for such a situation. Shall we see if that rumor is correct the hard way? How many cans of beans do you have stored in your bunker??

Bad news: cobalt-60s half-life is such that your last can of beans would explode well before the radiation levels were safe enough to stroll around Damascus. 

Edited May 28, 2021 by DogOnPorch

[Yzermandius19]

no need for overkill

Israel is formidable enough without it

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

no need for overkill

Israel is formidable enough without it

 

Google Samson Option...Israel has a plan...and it is to make sure NOBODY gets the Middle East...and the rest of the planet gets to enjoy rising cobalt-60 levels if Jews have gone to the grave.

Never Again...means just that. Not some silly slogan uttered by BLM.

[Dougie93]

4 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

None-the-less...the rumor is that Israel made a working cobalt device for such a situation. Shall we see if that rumor is correct the hard way? How many cans of beans to you have stored in your bunker??

Bad news: cobalt-60s half-life is such that your last can of beans would explode well before the radiation levels were safe enough to stroll around Damascus. 

again, I find the hydrogen bomb already gets the job done

like Redwing Tewa at 87% fission is more than dirty enough to salt anyone's fields for generations to come

[Yzermandius19]

4 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Google Samson Option...Israel has a plan...and it is to make sure NOBODY gets the Middle East...and the rest of the planet gets to enjoy rising cobalt-60 levels if Jews have gone to the grave.

Never Again...means just that. Not some silly slogan uttered by BLM.

no need for that

the Jews ain't going to the grave

cobalt or no cobalt

who is going to make them?

nobody

Israel got this fam

Edited May 28, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[DogOnPorch]

You guys can pretend that it is impossible all you like. A cobalt device isn't science fiction. It's just a big H-bomb with a cobalt tamper and casing. Set it off...huge levels of the radioactive isotope cobalt 60 gets pumped into the stratosphere for global distribution...bye bye world. 

[Dougie93]

Just now, DogOnPorch said:

You guys can pretend that it is impossible all you like. A cobalt device isn't science fiction. It's just a big H-bomb with a cobalt tamper and casing. Set it off...huge levels of the radioactive isotope cobalt 60 gets pumped into the stratosphere for global distribution...bye bye world. 

cobalt tamper casing doesn't add much to the existing threat of massive inter polar exchange, so it's moot

[Yzermandius19]

3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

You guys can pretend that it is impossible all you like. A cobalt device isn't science fiction. It's just a big H-bomb with a cobalt tamper and casing. Set it off...huge levels of the radioactive isotope cobalt 60 gets pumped into the stratosphere for global distribution...bye bye world. 

why would they do that?

if they have it

it makes no sense to use it that way

Edited May 28, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

cobalt tamper casing doesn't add much to the existing threat of massive inter polar exchange, so it's moot

 

To someone who is unaware of the nature of cobalt-60...certainly. This doesn't go away after a few weeks or months...we're talking decades if not centuries.

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

why would they do that?

if they have it

it makes no sense to use it

 

If they're being overrun by Arab enemies.

You expect them to surrender, eh?