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42 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Not so different....many "public boats" are subject to water safety and flotation device laws that only require stowage and availability on board, or donning by children only.

Yup but there's no regulation that says I can't be a dick about it and make the adults wear an inflatable PFD at all times.  That said, the rules state I have to order parents to take life-jackets off their child inside the cabin.  Used to be kids seethed if they were the only one who had to wear one and now they seethe when they're the only one's who have to take them off.

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By definition, pandemics can include the breakdown of social order and compliance behaviours.   Believing that government can and will always protect you is also a false hope.

Wait till I'm up on the flying bridge ordering everyone below to keep their masks on. "How come you don't have to" they'll ask. Because I'm up here and can be be a dick about it and you can't. Bwahahahahaha!

 

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1 minute ago, eyeball said:

Wait till I'm up on the flying bridge ordering everyone below to keep their masks on. "How come you don't have to" they'll ask. Because I'm up here and can be be a dick about it and you can't. Bwahahahahaha!

 

...and the paying public will quickly learn not to give their business to Captain Dick. 

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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7 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

...and the paying public will quickly learn not to give their business to Captain Dick. 

The trick is to make it fun Gilligan.  Which brings it back around to the topic of a society and the issues people have with complying or resisting control or rules or regulations in the face of an emergency.  If half the people are running around imagining contact tracing for example automatically means The End Times are here and the Satanic forces of Pol Pot and the globalists are on the cusp of taking over their minds well....I'd suggest mushrooms....maybe even mandatory mushrooms.

But seriously, South Koreans are able to handle it without bearing arms in their legislature and I'm sure Canadians will too.  As for you

 

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3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

But seriously, South Koreans are able to handle it without bearing arms in their legislature and I'm sure Canadians will too.  As for you

 

Dream on...there are compliance problems in South Korea too....Captain Dick is not the boss there or in Canada.

 

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Despite its advantageous culture, South Korea has nevertheless experienced notable exceptions to public compliance. By the numbers, cases involving the elderly have been most prevalent. Through the last month, we have received sporadic reports of seniors across South Korea refusing testing or quarantine. The most publicized example is a 61-year-old woman in Daegu who refused testing on two occasions despite having significant contact with an infected patient. This woman, referred to as “patient 31,” ended up infecting another 37 people.

https://thediplomat.com/2020/03/lessons-from-south-koreas-covid-19-outbreak-the-good-bad-and-ugly/

 

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Dream on...there are compliance problems in South Korea too....Captain Dick is not the boss there or in Canada.

No one said there wasn't.  But why cite a source from Mar 10? That's still practically in the Before Times, flash forward 5 weeks later and...

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Testing, contact tracing, attention to detail and leadership have helped get pandemic under control

South Korea has an enviable record of handling the outbreak. It has recorded five deaths per million of population, compared to 42 in Canada, 122 in the United States and 437 in Spain. On Sunday, there were just eight new cases reported in South Korea.

 

 Now that said, flash forward to yesterday and...

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Coronavirus: Germany, South Korea report new cases as countries ease restrictions

South Korea‘s capital closed down more than 2,100 bars and other nightspots Saturday because of a new cluster of coronavirus infections, and Germany scrambled to contain fresh outbreaks at slaughterhouses, underscoring the dangers authorities face as they try to reopen their economies.

 

"Should I slow 'er down there a notch Skipper?"  "Arrrgh, maybe two or three there mate. We'll see how that impatient idiot up ahead there does making his way across the bar against the tide."

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3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

"Should I slow 'er down there a notch Skipper?"  "Arrrgh, maybe two or three there mate. We'll see how that impatient idiot up ahead there does making his way across the bar against the tide."

 

Let me guess...another problem that can be solved by banning "in-camera lobbying".  

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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14 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Let me guess...another problem that can be solved by banning "in-camera lobbying".  

No, and better fisheries management probably wouldn't either.  A complete attitude change might though.  That's often a consequence of an emergency, they can change a people forever and there ain't no going back no matter how much you want them to.

But to carry the Gilligan's Island analogy just a little further, recall that after the storm and the fearless crew got everyone ashore alive they had nothing but fun for three whole years so try to have a little faith things won't automatically default to a Lord of the Flies world.  Hopefully that's what we're leaving behind.  It'll be like that in some places if you're lucky and smart.

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4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No, and better fisheries management probably wouldn't either.  A complete attitude change might though.  That's often a consequence of an emergency, they can change a people forever and there ain't no going back no matter how much you want them to.

 

Free people are free to make different decisions...and they will, regardless of the "emergency".   Lockdown lawsuits are already clogging the courts.

 

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But to carry the Gilligan's Island analogy just a little further, recall that after the storm and the fearless crew got everyone ashore alive they had nothing but fun for three whole years so try to have a little faith things won't automatically default to a Lord of the Flies world.  Hopefully that's what we're leaving behind.  It'll be like that in some places if you're lucky and smart.

 

No it won't be lucky at all.   Gilligan's Island was pure fantasy filmed on a back lot in Los Angeles.   Reality is far more diverse and unforgiving.

 

 

 

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

Posted
2 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Reality is far more diverse and unforgiving.

Oh well just be thankful its only a global pandemic, imagine how helpless we'd  be ìf it was climate change action. 

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4 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Free people are free to make different decisions...and they will, regardless of the "emergency".

Not on my boat during an emergency. Not if I can help it.  One of the scenarios we drill on is the proverbial mother who drops her baby over the side or their kid climbs up on the rail and falls in. Somebody will probably have to sit on the mother to prevent them from going over the rail after them.  In the case of the kid we throw them a line then tow them around as whale bait for a bit.  After we rescue the baby we toss the mother in and tow her around.

Loop the rope under one arm and over the other shoulder, makes them spin that way. Whales can't resist. It's great sport.

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