Mass Graves of Dead Americans and Trump wants the economy open in May

[Neil Austen]

Unclaimed remains of coronavirus victims in New York City being buried in potter's field

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/new-york-city-dwindling-morgue-space-1.5529065

I keep reading about these terrible deaths in the States, the mass graves of unclaimed bodies, and I wonder, how are Americans not outraged by the incompetence of Trump and their government. Even as Americans are buried in mass graves Trump wants the economy open in May. What does it take to convince Trump supporters that their president is not only extremely incompetent, but dangerous.
Trump’s failure to respond to the coronavirus pandemic didn’t begin with the administration’s inability to send out the millions of test kits and the protective medical gear for health care workers that experts say are needed to tackle the crisis. It didn’t start with Trump’s bungled messaging downplaying the crisis even as it’s worsened, nor with his mid-March insistence that social distancing measures could be lifted by Easter (he later backpedaled). It began in April 2018, where Trump began dismantling the team in charge of pandemic response, firing its leadership and disbanding the team in spring 2018.
Voting Republicans is the insane option.

[Rue]

1 hour ago, Neil Austen said:

Unclaimed remains of coronavirus victims in New York City being buried in potter's field

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/new-york-city-dwindling-morgue-space-1.5529065

I keep reading about these terrible deaths in the States, the mass graves of unclaimed bodies, and I wonder, how are Americans not outraged by the incompetence of Trump and their government. Even as Americans are buried in mass graves Trump wants the economy open in May. What does it take to convince Trump supporters that their president is not only extremely incompetent, but dangerous.
Trump’s failure to respond to the coronavirus pandemic didn’t begin with the administration’s inability to send out the millions of test kits and the protective medical gear for health care workers that experts say are needed to tackle the crisis. It didn’t start with Trump’s bungled messaging downplaying the crisis even as it’s worsened, nor with his mid-March insistence that social distancing measures could be lifted by Easter (he later backpedaled). It began in April 2018, where Trump began dismantling the team in charge of pandemic response, firing its leadership and disbanding the team in spring 2018.
Voting Republicans is the insane option.

More political spambotting. Harry666TdotNeilAusten.

 

 

 

Edited April 11, 2020 by Rue

[OftenWrong]

It can only be Donald Trump who can make this move. No one else in the world, no leader has got the balls.

When will the virus quarantine end? When Donald Trump says so.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, OftenWrong said:

It can only be Donald Trump who can make this move. No one else in the world, no leader has got the balls.

When will the virus quarantine end? When Donald Trump says so.

In the US.  It should be interesting, if deadly.

[bush_cheney2004]

6 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

In the US.  It should be interesting, if deadly.

 

Meh....each flu season is very deadly in the U.S., and elsewhere.

My governor is beginning to tweak/relax the restrictions as cases/deaths fall way short of modeling projections.

Warmer weather (higher temps and Rh) usually impact corona viruses...hence the term seasonal.

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Meh....each flu season is very deadly in the U.S., and elsewhere.

My governor is beginning to tweak/relax the restrictions as cases/deaths fall way short of modeling projections.

Warmer weather (higher temps and Rh) usually impact corona viruses...hence the term seasonal.

Yeah, I remember last year's flu shutdown.  You'd think we would have stocked up on toilet paper and masks for this year's.  We must have forgotten.

[bush_cheney2004]

14 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Yeah, I remember last year's flu shutdown.  You'd think we would have stocked up on toilet paper and masks for this year's.  We must have forgotten.

 

U.S. CDC reported that up to 80,000 Americans died from the flu in 2017 - 2018.

It was the final shutdown for them.

https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc-us-flu-deaths-winter/

Edited April 11, 2020 by bush_cheney2004

[OftenWrong]

11 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Yeah, I remember last year's flu shutdown.  You'd think we would have stocked up on toilet paper and masks for this year's.  We must have forgotten.

You have the right to self quarantine any season you want. Would be justified too, given we all know how deadly the flu is compared to merely coronaviruses. Coronavirii?

[Guest]

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

U.S. CDC reported that up to 80,000 Americans died from the flu in 2017 - 2018.

It was the final shutdown for them.

Yes, but there was still shopping, bars, baseball and beachgoing, amongst other things.  Something must be different this year.  I can't quite put my finger on it...

[bush_cheney2004]

2 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Yes, but there was still shopping, bars, baseball and beachgoing, amongst other things.  Something must be different this year.  I can't quite put my finger on it...

 

Yes...people are dying now who have never died before.

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Yes...people are dying now who have never died before.

Yes, but thankfully, not as many as would have done.

But like I said, it might get interesting.

[Boges]

If you're travelling between states then there's no way to actually contain subsequent outbreaks. 

Not that there should be any reason anyone will want to travel very far for the rest of this year into next. 

This could be very bad for the airline industry as people realize a lot of business can be done remotely. 

[OftenWrong]

5 minutes ago, Boges said:

If you're travelling between states then there's no way to actually contain subsequent outbreaks. 

Not that there should be any reason anyone will want to travel very far for the rest of this year into next. 

This could be very bad for the airline industry as people realize a lot of business can be done remotely. 

That's true but an infected person carries the virus with them wherever they go. It is not more contagious simply because you have crossed a border, but that crossing means you have entered a different health care jurisdiction. Just pointing out the real issue isn't that it promotes more infection to cross a line. Not if there is no quarantine in effect.

Edited April 11, 2020 by OftenWrong

[Boges]

1 minute ago, OftenWrong said:

That's true but an infected person carries the virus with them wherever they go. It is not more contagious simply because you have crossed a border. But that crossing means you enter a different health care jurisdiction. Just pointing out the real issue isn't that it promotes more infection to cross a line. Not if there is no quarantine in effect.

This Chaos that Trump likes to manifest may have interesting consequences. 

California has done very well containing the outbreak by implementing Social Distancing. Should the economy "Re-Open" will they try to enforce that people entering their state not come from places that haven't really treated this virus seriously. 

 

[Shady]

And the thousandth topic on Trump and the virus is born!  Maybe this can just be merged into the other ones, because this is getting ridiculous.  

[Rue]

On 4/11/2020 at 12:32 PM, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Yes...people are dying now who have never died before.

But would have regardless of the virus. Difference is relative to what you choose to look at.

[Rue]

51 minutes ago, Shady said:

And the thousandth topic on Trump and the virus is born!  Maybe this can just be merged into the other ones, because this is getting ridiculous.  

I think many people say dumb ass things..Trump is getting our undivided attention because we Canadians seek to place more attention on him than our own leaders.  It's unfortunate.  It does not say much for our collective sense of identity in Canada and how we subordinate to their culture.

[bush_cheney2004]

8 minutes ago, Rue said:

But would have regardless of the virus. Difference is relative to what you choose to look at.

 

Both you guys missed what is a very old joke.     From much harder times.

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, Rue said:

I think many people say dumb ass things..Trump is getting our undivided attention because we Canadians seek to place more attention on him than our own leaders.  It's unfortunate.  It does not say much for our collective sense of identity in Canada and how we subordinate to their culture.

 

Why do you think that is ?   

Trump's (so far successful) strategy is to traffic in such things for media attention, so why does Canada fall for it across the border ?

[scribblet]

Fact check: No, NYC hasn't begun digging mass graves for COVID victims.

This is Hart Island, where NYC has buried bodies with no next-of-kin in these "mass graves" since 1881. There are over 1M people buried there. 
https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doc/downloads/pdf/Hart_Island _FAQs 2017.07.25.pdf

[Tdot]

On April 11, 2020 at 6:57 AM, Neil Austen said:

...the incompetence ...

What? The Dems dumb cry that unclaimed dead bodies in NYC do somehow, prevent, all of America from returning to business as usual?

lol

The only thing insane about this, is the Dem party. And hopefully they pay the price for it 7 months:

 

Politicizing Coronavirus Will Cost Dems the House 
 

Their rhetoric concerning COVID-19 has been both irresponsible and politically inept. 

 

by DAVID CATRON

 

It’s clear that the Democrats see the coronavirus outbreak as an opportunity rather than an epidemic. Having failed to bring down President Trump with ridiculous conspiracy theories involving Russia and Ukraine, they are desperately attempting to convince the public that he is somehow exacerbating the COVID-19 crisis. 

 

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer, for example, issued a joint press release Sunday that included the following fiction: “President Trump continues to manufacture needless chaos within his administration and it is hampering the government’s response to the coronavirus outbreak.” Predictably, Pelosi and Schumer fail to provide any objective facts to support this claim.

 

This is just the latest in a series of irresponsible assertions by the Democrats. The purported front-runner for their party’s presidential nomination, former Vice President Joe Biden, falsely claimed during a debate in late February that the Trump administration had hampered the federal response to COVID-19 by cutting funding for the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and the National Institutes of Health (NIH): 

 

“We [the Obama–Biden administration] increased the budget of the CDC. We increased the NIH budget.… He’s wiped all that out.… He cut the funding for the entire effort.” This balderdash was too much for the fact checkers at AP, who were quick to debunk the falsehood. The AP report also undermines the “needless chaos” assertion made by Pelosi and Schumer:

The public health system has a playbook to follow for pandemic preparation regardless of who’s president or whether specific instructions are coming from the White House.… Among the health authorities overseeing the work are Dr. Anne Schuchat, CDC’s principal deputy director and a veteran of previous outbreaks, and Dr. Anthony Fauci, NIH’s infectious disease chief who has advised six presidents.

If you go to the CDC Foundation website you will discover that Dr. Schuchat’s reputation is such that her work is the subject of a feature film, Contagion, in which she is played by Kate Winslet. It’s pretty difficult to visualize doctors Schuchat and Fauci presiding over “chaos” in response to coronavirus. It is far more likely that, by the time the election rolls around next November, the actual effect of the outbreak will be known and it will probably have been far less severe than predicted. 

 

The voters will by then be aware that the current Democratic rhetoric was a grotesquely cynical ploy to mislead and frighten the public for the usual tawdry political purposes. This will render Democrats clinging to House seats in “Trump districts” even more vulnerable than they are at present.

 

There are 31 Democratic representatives who occupy seats in districts that Trump won in 2016. Of the 18 districts the Republicans need to flip in order to regain their House majority, the president won 16 by five points or more...

 

https://spectator.org/politicizing-coronavirus-will-cost-dems-the-house/

Edited April 12, 2020 by Tdot

[Tdot]

On April 11, 2020 at 6:57 AM, Neil Austen said:

Trump’s failure to respond to the coronavirus pandemic ...

President Trump should be granted a means to sue all perps for defamation and slander, when it comes to ridiculous retard-rhetoric such as this.  The Demonic Dems only know deceit, when it comes to President Trump.

 

Politicizing Coronavirus Is a Natural for Democrats; Here Are Some of Their Lies

 

 

 

 

Pandemics are nonpolitical. Viruses don’t discriminate on a political basis. It is axiomatic that any significant outbreak of the coronavirus in the US beyond the few cases currently detected will affect Democrats, Republicans, and independents. While the President has had a Coronavirus Task Force up and running for over a month now, all the Democrats have offered is criticism of the President and his administration and no concrete suggestions on how to minimize the threat to ALL Americans.

The Democrats have a coordinated effort underway to attempt to blame the coronavirus pandemic on President Trump. It’s what they do these days – resist and blame everything on the President because that’s all they’ve got. They seek to sow panic and chaos in order to terrorize Americans. Every major Democrat and a chorus of others have attacked the President ...

https://www.redstate.com/stu-in-sd/2020/03/02/politicizing-coronavirus-is-a-natural-for-democrats-here-are-some-of-their-lies/

Edited April 12, 2020 by Tdot

[Tdot]

On April 11, 2020 at 6:57 AM, Neil Austen said:

Unclaimed remains of coronavirus victims in New York City being buried in potter's field

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/new-york-city-dwindling-morgue-space-1.5529065

I keep reading about these terrible deaths in the States, the mass graves of unclaimed bodies, and I wonder, how are Americans not outraged by the incompetence of Trump and their government. Even as Americans are buried in mass graves Trump wants the economy open in May. What does it take to convince Trump supporters that their president is not only extremely incompetent, but dangerous.
Trump’s failure to respond to the coronavirus pandemic didn’t begin with the administration’s inability to send out the millions of test kits and the protective medical gear for health care workers that experts say are needed to tackle the crisis. It didn’t start with Trump’s bungled messaging downplaying the crisis even as it’s worsened, nor with his mid-March insistence that social distancing measures could be lifted by Easter (he later backpedaled). It began in April 2018, where Trump began dismantling the team in charge of pandemic response, firing its leadership and disbanding the team in spring 2018.
Voting Republicans is the insane option.

 

[Tdot]

On April 11, 2020 at 6:57 AM, Neil Austen said:

...Trump’s supporters...

 

 

 

What the Democrats Have Done During Coronavirus is Enough to Make You Sick.

They are more worried about semantics than saving lives. 

By

David Krayden

on

March 16, 2020

   

 

 

Americans are no doubt increasingly concerned about how prepared their country is to face the impending coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic. This should be a time when everyone—regardless of party affiliation—comes together to ensure the crisis is dealt with efficiently and effectively.

 

True to form, Democrats are politicizing the crisis, and are seeding discord at a time when national unity is more critical than ever.

Instead, Democrats like Sen. Richard Blumenthal, a phony Vietnam War hero, are taking to media channels to express their outrage at the Trump administration. They claim the President is either doing nothing or his actions are terrible—that he’s somehow even making things worse.

Blumenthal groused that he was “appalled and astonished that we have lost a critical two months” in dealing with the coronavirus. Just what was transpiring during those critical two months? Why the impeachment of the President, of course—a process that was equally a waste of time and the worst political farce to ever inhabit a Washington theater.

The Democrats have become masters of the political art of projection: falsely identifying their own faults in other people. There are no more racist people than the leftists who are so obsessed with race that they insist upon interpreting every issue on racial terms. Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) regularly charges President Donald Trump with lying, yet he continues to spin the Russia collusion hoax, long after he even debunked it himself. So instead of assessing the situation in Wuhan, China, we’re forced to hear about how Donald Trump was sure to give Alaska back to the Russians as soon as Vladimir Putin helped him “cheat” in the 2020 election.

Then there’s the blatant lie that President Trump called the coronavirus a hoax and therefore was taking this outbreak very seriously at all. (Note: this bit of fake news actually started with the media themselves; Politico brazenly distorted Trump’s words from a South Carolina rally where he said the Democrats were depicting his administration as doing nothing about the virus, which was, of course, a hoax. When the media began parroting this line, the Democrats quickly picked it up—until a Washington Post reporter of all places, fact-checked failed Democratic presidential candidate Michael Bloomberg for repeating this nonsense).

True to form, Democrats are politicizing the crisis, and are seeding discord at a time when national unity is more critical than ever...

Edited April 13, 2020 by Tdot

[Tdot]

On April 11, 2020 at 6:57 AM, Neil Austen said:

... in April 2018, where Trump began dismantling the team in charge of pandemic response, firing its leadership and disbanding the team in spring 2018...

You should have visited FactCheck.org first, before making these false statements. See, look:

 

Dems Misconstrue Trump Budget Remarks

By Lori Robertson

Posted on March 20, 2020

After President Donald Trump said, “I don’t know anything about” the disbanding of a White House pandemic response office, the Democrats claimed that he “lied” and pointed to Trump’s earlier remarks about “some of the people we cut” as evidence. But those remarks were in response to a question about proposed budget cuts — not the anti-pandemic team in question.

Several Democrats have criticized the Trump administration’s response to the coronavirus outbreak by pointing to the dissolving of a team within the White House’s National Security Council dedicated to coordinating a response to a pandemic. As we’ve written before, in 2018, the administration did eliminate a key position that would have been involved in such a response — the senior director of the NSC’s Office of Global Health Security and Biodefense. But that doesn’t mean the responsibilities of that office were eliminated...

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/dems-misconstrue-trump-budget-remarks/

 

 

Edited April 13, 2020 by Tdot