Warning to All MLW Members - Fear and the Cronavirus

[Iceni warrior]

30 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Trump was right about the Democrats hyping up the Coronavirus as a desperate attack on Trump, it is low risk to average American too. Nothing wrong with saying that.

Besides you are focusing on the words of politicians again, you really can't find a good angle of attack when it comes to Trump can you? You'll throw anything against the wall hoping it will stick, because you have no good ammo, not that there isn't good ammo available, you just can't find it blinded by TDS. Even the dumbest petty shit seems like a bombshell to you, so you can't tell the difference.

Just be careful to take precautions whilst sucking on Trump's pipe, the risk of contagion will be even worse than the salty taste.

[Guest ProudConservative]

1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Get back to the virus....you were doing better there.

I know, but I've explored all my ideas, and I need a distraction from that depressing reality. Don't we all.

[cannuck]

2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Not at all, as the U.S. has almost 1,000 Canadians locked up but Canada bitches about two spies in China.

You know if we had some really smart people in Ottawa, we would let the US lock up ALL of our criminals.   Would save us a fortune.   Shoot, you even took Charles Ng off of our hands.   Thanks!

[Yzermandius19]

3 minutes ago, Argus said:

1. The Republican Party is in no way a conservative party.

2. I haven't said much good about Democrats either.

The Republicans are more conservative than the Democrats, obvious lesser of evils to a conservative is obvious. If you can't see that, it's because you're a fake conservative.

Edited March 19, 2020 by Yzermandius19

[Argus]

1 minute ago, cannuck said:

You know if we had some really smart people in Ottawa, we would let the US lock up ALL of our criminals.   Would save us a fortune.   Shoot, you even took Charles Ng off of our hands.   Thanks!

Yeah but it still took us seven goddam  years to deport the SOB. We need someone to go through both the medical and the legal systems in this country with a chainsaw, tear them apart and rebuild them.

[Yzermandius19]

2 minutes ago, Iceni warrior said:

Just be careful to take precautions whilst sucking on Trump's pipe, the risk of contagion will be even worse than the salty taste.

If all you have are character attacks, then you have no good attacks. Get a better angle, stop grasping at straws.

[Guest ProudConservative]

10 minutes ago, Argus said:

I draw the distinction on conservative policies - which the Republicans lack. They are not fiscally responsible, and have made zero attempts to balance the budget, even when they had control of the house, senate and presidency. They're not morally conservative either, or they wouldn't have Trump as their leader. Hell, they wouldn't even support Trump's border security measures, which was why it wasn't until the Democrats took control of the House that he felt free to push them for money. Mostly for political reasons.

So you're think one of the highest virtues of true conservatism, is the devotion to fiscal responsibility. I think you and I, have that in common. I would like to clarify, that i'm a true Keynesian. Which means the majority of the time, governments should be paying off debt, but during a recession or national emergency it's ok to increase spending withing the framework of checks and balances.

Edited March 19, 2020 by ProudConservative

[Argus]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

The Republicans are more conservative than the Democrats, obvious lesser of evils to a conservative is obvious.

Generally, but not when led by a stumbling buffoon. I grant you if I was down south and say Jeb Bush had won the nomination I'd have voted for him rather than Clinton. But they voted in Trump, and the way the entire party has fawned over him says absolutely nothing good about them.

[Army Guy]

54 minutes ago, ProudConservative said:

I don't buy the excuse that we need to wait 18 months for a vaccine. That's how long it takes to make a Herpes vaccine or whatever. When the global community has trillions of dollars it it's disposal, it shouldn't take more than 6 months.

Like I said before... begin full scale trials on prisoners, wait a month to see what the wide effects are... and then pick the vaccine with the best results.

What we shouldn't tolerate, is useless red tape delays, that put the entire planet at risk.

I'm really starting to get concerned on where your head space and timing is really at, and what is your core morals and values, I mean allowing medical experiments on prisoners, where does it stop after that.....why not just take an extra step and end their lives upon conviction, saving bils on housing and feeding and all the wages on guarding them.... do we also look at getting rid of the elderly, before they become a burden, what of the handicap line them up as well... Some one once said a nation is judged by how well it treats it's prisoners' and less fortunate during a crises I think your getting a failing grade...

[Yzermandius19]

1 minute ago, Argus said:

Generally, but not when led by a stumbling buffoon.

Even when led by Trump, still vastly more conservative than the Democrats, especially with Democrats going so far to the left in the era of Trump. Pretending that Trump isn't more conservative than Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders is asinine.

Edited March 19, 2020 by Yzermandius19

[Iceni warrior]

1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

If all you have are character attacks, then you have no good attacks. Get a better angle, stop grasping at straws.

If you consider every criticism of the Hair God as a character attack or TDS you may be suffering from an objectivity deficiency.

[Argus]

Just now, ProudConservative said:

So you're think one of the highest virtues of true conservatism, is the disciple of fiscal responsibility. I think you and I, have that in common.

Fiscal conservatism - making sure the budget balances but that everything which NEEDS to be funded is fully funded (Ie, defense, health care, security/prisons etc). Making sure there is as little waste and as much efficiency as possible in all government operations. Also making sure there are as few rules and regulations as possible hampering the economy (ie, it shouldn't take ten damn years to get approval for a pipeline or mine).

[Yzermandius19]

3 minutes ago, Iceni warrior said:

If you consider every criticism of the Hair God as a character attack or TDS you may be suffering from an objectivity deficiency.

I don't. There are plenty of good attacks on Trump, just none of them are character attacks, so drop those already, it doesn't not strengthen your case, it weakens it.

There is a reason that I am so much better at attacking Donald Trump's faults than his haters, and a big reason for that is because they are blinded by hatred of Trump into thinking weak attacks on him are actually strong out of wishful thinking, and I don't do that.

Edited March 19, 2020 by Yzermandius19

[Guest ProudConservative]

9 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

I'm really starting to get concerned on where your head space and timing is really at, and what is your core morals and values, I mean allowing medical experiments on prisoners, where does it stop after that.....why not just take an extra step and end their lives upon conviction, saving bils on housing and feeding and all the wages on guarding them.... do we also look at getting rid of the elderly, before they become a burden, what of the handicap line them up as well... Some one once said a nation is judged by how well it treats it's prisoners' and less fortunate during a crises I think your getting a failing grade...

There you go off again with your PSTD hallucinations. I never said anything about wanting to kill older people to save tax payers money. Yell you continue to try and make up bullshit and put words in my mouth.

Let me ask you this Army Guy. Do you support life in imprisonment, for someone who commits 1st degree murder?

Edited March 19, 2020 by ProudConservative

[Argus]

1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Even when led by Trump, still vastly more conservative than the Democrats, especially with Democrats going so far to the left in the era of Trump. Pretending that Trump isn't more conservative than Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders is asinine.

Trump has NEVER been a conservative of any kind. Don't you know ANYTHING about the man you've raised up as a god? He was a Democrat, pro choice, a gambler, a whoremonger and party animal, and never went near a church or a bible (except to marry models).

Anything he's said since he decided to run is the mouthings of a lifelong sales guy with the integrity of a used car salesman from Schenectady.  Even his own former staff said he would tell prospective buyers whatever he thought they wanted to hear, constantly lying about the materials which went into the luxury condos he built.

[Yzermandius19]

1 minute ago, Argus said:

Trump has NEVER been a conservative of any kind. Don't you know ANYTHING about the man you've raised up as a god? He was a Democrat, pro choice, a gambler, a whoremonger and party animal, and never went near a church or a bible (except to marry models).

Anything he's said since he decided to run is the mouthings of a lifelong sales guy with the integrity of a used car salesman from Schenectady.  Even his own former staff said he would tell prospective buyers whatever he thought they wanted to hear, constantly lying about the materials which went into the luxury condos he built.

A New York Liberal who hijacked the Republican Party is still more conservative than the Democrats these days, by several orders of magnitude, that's how far out in left field the Democrats are right now. Obvious lesser of evils to a real conservative is obvious.

Edited March 19, 2020 by Yzermandius19

[Argus]

2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

A New York Liberal who hijacked the Republican Party is still more conservative than the Democrats these days.

I have serious doubts about that. But my real problem is he's incompetent, stupid, ignorant (those are not synonyms), refuses to listen to advise from those who aren't, and seems to have a habit of developing fawning boy crushes on the dictators who hate his country. His only saving grace is he's so goddam lazy he leaves most of the day to day running of the country to Pence.

Edited March 19, 2020 by Argus

[bush_cheney2004]

Angela Merkel adds some black comedy to this pandemic....

 

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Berlin (AFP) - Germany is facing its biggest challenge "since the Second World War" in the fight against the coronavirus, Chancellor Angela Merkel said Wednesday, in what observers called a "final warning" for citizens to heed sweeping confinement measures.

 

.....Germany lost that war too.

[Yzermandius19]

1 minute ago, Argus said:

I have serious doubts about that.

Then you aren't paying attention to the Democrats. If you compare Trump to the Democrats, and you think they are more conservative than he is, then you're a fake conservative. Just because you don't like Trump doesn't make the Democrats better than him or more conservative than him.

Edited March 19, 2020 by Yzermandius19

[Iceni warrior]

2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

I don't. There are plenty of good attacks on Trump, just none of them are character attacks, so drop those already, it doesn't not strengthen your case, it weakens it.

There is a reason that I am so much better at attacking Donald Trump's faults than his haters, and a big reason for that is because they are blinded by hatred of Trump, while I am not.

Yet here you are defending Trump's early downplaying and politicisation of this crisis and describing criticism of it as TDS or a character attack.

In fact, you have consistently downplayed it yourself despite all the information to the contrary that is coming in. You may need to have a good look at yourself before you accuse others of blind partisanship.

[Army Guy]

32 minutes ago, ProudConservative said:

You realize, you're so obnoxious, with your anti Canadian hysteria. You should learn to hate your real enemies, because Canada isn't one of them.

No its not Canada, it's liberal Canadians he does not like....

[Argus]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

Then you aren't paying attention to the Democrats. If you compare Trump to the Democrats, and you think they are more conservative than he is, then you're a fake conservative.

You don't compare an individual to a whole party. I could remind you, though, this is the party which rejected Warren and has just about squashed Bernie Sanders flat. Yes, you have some shrill, stupid people like AOC, but most Democrats are mainstream.

[Yzermandius19]

1 minute ago, Iceni warrior said:

Yet here you are defending Trump's early downplaying and politicisation of this crisis and describing criticism of it as TDS or a character attack.

In fact, you have consistently downplayed it yourself despite all the information to the contrary that is coming in. You may need to have a good look at yourself before you accuse others of blind partisanship.

I admit my partisanship, it's the Trump Haters who refuse to do so. If you attack the way a politician speaks, that's weak sauce, if you think that ace material, your priorities are f*cked.

[Yzermandius19]

3 minutes ago, Argus said:

You don't compare an individual to a whole party. I could remind you, though, this is the party which rejected Warren and has just about squashed Bernie Sanders flat. Yes, you have some shrill, stupid people like AOC, but most Democrats are mainstream.

Compare Trump to any of the Democrats running for POTUS, he's more conservative, by several orders of magnitude. Joe Biden is not more conservative than Donald Trump just because he's more electable than Bernie Sanders. Even the so called moderate Democrats these days are far less conservative for Trump, you can't even name a Democrat who is more conservative than Trump right now.

Edited March 19, 2020 by Yzermandius19

[Guest ProudConservative]

3 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

No its not Canada, it's liberal Canadians he does not like....

Well I don't have liberal voters, just corrupt politicians.