Justin Trudeau's Response to Coronavirus

[Marocc]

8 hours ago, Argus said:

I, of course, have the N95 masks (

Wouldnt it be unethical of you to wear a mask? Who knows what kind of terrorists could be hiding behind those?

[Moonlight Graham]

2 hours ago, Marocc said:

The actual fatality rate cannot be known when we a) do not know how many people have or have had the virus and b) when there are unresolved cases.

You can say the same for the flu.  Go by the confirmed cases and deaths.

[dialamah]

Thailand seems to have found a treatment.  https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-treatment-cocktail-of-flu-hiv-drugs-2020-2

[Rue]

18 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

No one is going to die?  If he allows people with coronavirus symptoms into Canada, yes people will die.

 Four people already came and didn't spread anything and did not die. Breath.

[Rue]

19 hours ago, bcsapper said:

I was reading an article on the current virus recently and I noted the the Swine Flu epidemic 10 years ago killed between 100000 and 500000 people depending on who you ask.  I don't remember this type of reaction to that virus at any point during the event.  And so far it's ~300 fatalities. 

I don't really see why this one took off in the way it did.

Good question. A lot has to do with the "news cycle". If its a slow week, this kind of issue gets a push. Take a look how the cycle works. You see how for 2-4 weeks it was harry Harry Harry. At one point it was kim korea. Not too long ago it was missiles and Iran. It appears media works in 2-4 week cycles focusing on one lead story and then they get bored with it and move on to the next lead story.

I suppose one could get conspiratorial about these news cycles. It sure bumped off the front story the Trump impeachment, the Brexit, Harry and Andy. Some people see these stories as manipulated agendas to distract from others , others say no its coincidence but our media does tend to run with one lead story saturate its release, then move on and the cycle now seems two weeks. 

All I can say is disease as a story especially if its contagious is always a good "shock and get your attention" story because most people are ignorant  of the pathogens for disease and are easily frightened and will read news stories like bait to fish in a sort of group hysteria.

This flu  is not the end of the world and is proving in terms of flu capable of being treated. In any flu, people with pre-existing immunity compromise could die from it but the vast majority do not. Many think as soon as they get it, they will die. That is not the case.  The ones who die have pre-existing vulnerabilities that strip them of their ability to fight an infection such as cancer, aids, medication for organ transplants, cpd (chronic lung diseases), diabetes, advanced heart disease,  other illnesses or the aged or the very young.

However most people assume once you catch it you are dead. Thus the fears people have.

I am more frightened of the diseases the Kardashian sisters spread. 

[dialamah]

19 hours ago, bcsapper said:

I was reading an article on the current virus recently and I noted the the Swine Flu epidemic 10 years ago killed between 100000 and 500000 people depending on who you ask.  I don't remember this type of reaction to that virus at any point during the event.  And so far it's ~300 fatalities. 

I don't really see why this one took off in the way it did.

I think the Western world in general has been "primed" to be more fearful than we used to be.  

[Argus]

15 hours ago, Marocc said:

Is he the only bully there?

It's bullying to stand up to powerful people in your world?

[Marocc]

30 minutes ago, Argus said:

It's bullying to stand up to powerful people in your world?

I'm not surprised you can't differentiate between the language of a bully and the correct manner of speaking.

[Moonlight Graham]

5 hours ago, Rue said:

 Four people already came and didn't spread anything and did not die. Breath.

Coronavirus doesn't kill 100% of people who get it.  It's 2%, which is orders of magnitude higher than the regular flu.

And what's wrong with my breath?

[Rue]

19 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Coronavirus doesn't kill 100% of people who get it.  It's 2%, which is orders of magnitude higher than the regular flu.

And what's wrong with my breath?

In response to your first comment:

https://www.ccn.com/relax-coronavirus-is-less-dangerous-than-the-flu-says-epidemic-expert/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/02/01/coronavirus-flu-deadlier-more-widespread-than-wuhan-china-virus/4632508002/

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/for-now-the-flu-is-a-bigger-risk-than-coronavirus-2020-01-30

In regards to your second comment:

Depends...have you just come from Wuhan and/or have you just eaten garlic or had a job interview? 

[Argus]

1 hour ago, Marocc said:

I'm not surprised you can't differentiate between the language of a bully and the correct manner of speaking.

I know what a bully is. I know that Bernier is not bullying anyone. He's just pointing out the hypocrisy of Mr. Blackface lecturing us endlessly about how we should think and act so as to not be racist.

[Marocc]

39 minutes ago, Argus said:

I know what a bully is

Calling other people names is bullying.

[Marocc]

1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said:

It's 2%,

Though, we don't know for sure how many percent it is..

[Argus]

1 hour ago, Marocc said:

Calling other people names is bullying.

Really? So if some big brutal guy is beating up a helpless woman and she calls him a name she's bullying him? Is that your position?

[Guest ProudConservative]

@MaximeBernier from Twitter

 

"Nothing Canada does will have any impact on world climate.

Libs: IT’S AN EMERGENCY! PANIC! TAX EVERYTHING!

 

We can prevent the spread of coronavirus with quarantines and other measures.

Libs: Nothing to worry about, we’ll adjust as the situation evolves. Stop being racist."

Edited February 3, 2020 by ProudConservative

[Guest ProudConservative]

The York Region District School board was handed a petition with 10000 signatures from parents, asking them to not allow any students returning from China to be able to attend class for 17 days, after their arrival.

This is the official response from the head of the York Region District School Board, Louise Sirisko, Director of Education and Juanita Nathan, Board Chair.

You can read the full statement here. http://www.yrdsb.ca/schools/Repository/NewsEvents/Pages/BoardNews/Message-From-The-Director.aspx

"While the virus can be traced to a province in China, we have to be cautious that this not be seen as a Chinese virus. Those who are afflicted or are potential transmitters are not just people of Chinese origin. The virus has appeared in many countries, such as the United Kingdom, the United States, Australia and Canada. At times such as this, we must come together as Canadians and avoid any hint of xenophobia, which in this case can victimize our East Asian Chinese community and we must rely on our shared values of equity and inclusivity."

So the official response, is that any hint of quarantining them, is officially seen as racist, and the York Region District School board has zero tolerant for our racism.

Edited February 3, 2020 by ProudConservative

[WestCanMan]

On 2/1/2020 at 1:36 PM, ProudConservative said:

 If a sick person is caughing... it should be illegal for an employer not to send them home.

There are 3 or 4 people in Canada with coronavirus. If you send everyone home that's coughing the entire economy will shut down. 

Can we really shut down the whole economy on day 1 of every possible pandemic? 

[Guest ProudConservative]

So we are still less than 2 weeks into this Pandemic, and more people have died in China, than during the Sars outbreak. The Sars ourbreak lasted for about 7 months, so where will we be in 7 months, if this expodential growth curve continues.

https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-02-03-20-intl-hnk/index.html

[Guest ProudConservative]

16 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

There are 3 or 4 people in Canada with coronavirus. If you send everyone home that's coughing the entire economy will shut down. 

Can we really shut down the whole economy on day 1 of every possible pandemic? 

See it's that kind of thinking that lead to the 43 people killed in Canada during the Sars outbreak.... They we're too complacent in the beggining because only a few people were infected.... I don't think anyone understands geometric growth.... and that's were at a far greater risk....do to the massive amounts of people still traveling to and from China. Canada had one of the highest fatality rates, because we didn't take it as seriously as other countries.

We have no way if knowing if someone caughing as the Coronavirus or not, so they should be banned from work... until they recover. If we allow the seasonal flu to spread, it will be very difficult to test the people, who do end up getting sick from the Coronavirus.

If I were Canadian prime minister, I would pass an emergency law requiring all sick people to be sent home.... and not allowed to work. Even if there were no coronavirus, sick people should not be allow to work, because there is a good chance it will spread it to more than one person.... Then you end up with half the people in your office caughing, instead of one person being sent home for a few days.

From an economical standpoint, you will lose more business... having 10 employees get sick from one person, because they're tired and can't concentrate at work, than just sending that one employee home.

If we actually did this, we would never have any outbreaks of the flu.

The spread of the disease will destroy the economy, and not putting suspecting people in quarantine.

Probable cases of SARS by country and region, 1 November 2002 – 31 July 2003
Country or Region	Cases	Deaths	Fatality (%)
China (mainland)*	5,327	390	6.6
Hong Kong	1,755	299	17.0
Taiwan **	346	37	10.7
Canada	251	43	17.1

Edited February 3, 2020 by ProudConservative

[WestCanMan]

On 2/2/2020 at 10:23 AM, bcsapper said:

I was reading an article on the current virus recently and I noted the the Swine Flu epidemic 10 years ago killed between 100000 and 500000 people depending on who you ask.  I don't remember this type of reaction to that virus at any point during the event.  And so far it's ~300 fatalities. 

I don't really see why this one took off in the way it did.

What's worrisome is the high mortality rate here. If 3,000,000,000 people got the swine flu and 100,000 died, that's only one in 30,000. If 1B people got that flu then it's one in 10,000. Out of 10,000 people that's not a lot. One out of every 10,000 people is very close to death already. 

There were something like 130 deaths back when only 3,000 people were know to have had coronavirus. That's about 1/25 people. If 1B people get coronavirus and 1/25 die that's 40 million people. 

There's also the fact of whether or not it's killing relatively healthy people. The Spanish flu was actually killing some of the healthiest people around because their immune systems would go into hyperdrive and attack their own organs (cytokine storm). 

[WestCanMan]

11 minutes ago, ProudConservative said:

 

Probable cases of SARS by country and region, 1 November 2002 – 31 July 2003
Country or Region	Cases	Deaths	Fatality (%)
China (mainland)*	5,327	390	6.6
Hong Kong	1,755	299	17.0
Taiwan **	346	37	10.7
Canada	251	43	17.1

I didn't realize that 43 people died in Canada from SARS. That's a lot.

[Guest ProudConservative]

8 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I didn't realize that 43 people died in Canada from SARS. That's a lot.

I lived in one of the communities that got hit hard... I remember back then, they school boards didn't want to be seen as rasist.... so they never sent a sick person home... Students would get sick, and pass it to their parents or grandparents... and there was a few cases where their grandparents died.

Less than 1% of the people under 24 who got infected died, and 55% of the people over 65 died.

So while Coronavirus is not as strong as Sars, it's far more contagious, and it will be very difficult controlling the spread.

More people have died to Coronavirus in China now, than Sars.... because Coronavirus is spreading at an expodential rate there.

Sars took about 7 months to die down, and were only about 2 weeks into the pandemic....

Canada has to be extreamly strict to stop the spread, but if we make anti-racism first priority.... will become one of those countries at the top of the list.

 

When the first Canadians start dying.... There will be massive petitions asking Justin Trudeau to resign.... You just wait any see. Political correctness, has no place when there's an epidemic.

You have to follow science, instead of peoples feelings.

Edited February 3, 2020 by ProudConservative

[Guest ProudConservative]

So here is the latest death Toll... We're now at 425 worldwide, with close to 20000 confirmed cases... We have almost trippled the amount of Sars cases we had over 7 months, in just 2 weeks. The total amount of Sars cases worldwide reached 8096 in a year.

With China being at the center of the worlds supply chain, thing could get extreamly bad. This could trigger a stock market collapse like 1929.

 

Edited February 3, 2020 by ProudConservative

[bush_cheney2004]

11 minutes ago, ProudConservative said:

You have to follow science, instead of peoples feelings.

 

That's only for climate change alarmists...public health takes a back seat to politics.

[Guest ProudConservative]

The moral of the story is, don't let your markets sell Bat Soup... The Chinese need to learn to live in the 21st century, and ban poaching, and the sail of exotic animals that carry viruses.

It's not worth the disctruction of you're economy. China needs to be reminded, about who's the blame... So this never happens again.

American's never cause Pandemics, because Americas are civilized and don't eat stupid types of food. I think sometimes racism is nessesary, because it's a tough love approach, that's needed in times like these.

What I can't understand is why, if they live in a totalitarian government, the government isn't not willing to ban the sale of exotic foods.... Is it because they're a bunch of superstitious nutjobs that think... they will get magical powers if they eat the parts of exotic raw animals?

Who do you think is funding mercenaries in East Africa, to slaughter the worlds most endangered animals? The Chinese of course.... While the taxpayers have to pickup the tab, fight the poachers, and try and keep these animals from going extinct.

Well the world is sick of their S@ht. All the poaching and pandemics they create.

 

Edited February 4, 2020 by ProudConservative