mazerunner Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 It is unfair to discriminate Indians and humiliate them by calling them national minorities, insisting that they are aliens in this country and that they should "go home", although America was and is their home even before the Europeans came to the country. At the moment, the situation with the Indians at the official level is peaceful, as the federal authorities are obliged to provide members of the Indian tribes with a number of special cultural and economic benefits, including full exemption from local and federal taxes, medical and educational grants. This can be called compensation for lost territories. However, sitting in one of the cafes, I was faced with a situation that just stunned me: three white guys actively discussed a married couple of Indian origin, called them "freaks" and even expressed their dissatisfaction with their presence in America - like "America is for Whites only". Can this actually be called a manifestation of nationalism, or maybe neo-Nazism? Of course, it was convenient for white Americans to use the Indians during the wars as "code talkers" and "wild animals that are not a pity if they die" but it is very possible thanks to them that those three guys in the cafe peacefully drank coffee being healthy and free. Many of today's Indians live on reservations, where we all can see big “No trespassing. Violators will be shot. Survivors will be shot again" posters. They feel like strangers in their own state and the problem of the indigenous inhabitants of America cannot be called resolved. Yes, the authorities legalized gambling in reservations, but for what purpose? I find this even offensive. By the word "help" I understand the construction of hospitals with the further provision of accessible to all medical care, educational institutions, libraries, stores, etc., and not casinos, which are actually alien to the Indian culture and corrupting Aboriginal people of America. Despite the formal presence of citizenship, indigenous people still have to literally conquer their rights through civic activism and protests. And Indians are remembered only when they are needed or loudly declare about themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altai Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 We just should arm native people to start an independence war. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazerunner Posted October 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Altai said: We just should arm native people to start an independence war. Not everything can be solved only through the war i guess. We live in 21st century, not in the Middle ages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altai Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 30 minutes ago, mazerunner said: Not everything can be solved only through the war i guess. We live in 21st century, not in the Middle ages Yes we should arm them with nukes then. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 Its nice to know someone who cares so much about Yazidi, Kurds, Jews, Christians, now speaks out for American native peoples. God bless you Altai for being so caring. 1 1 Quote I come to you to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazerunner Posted October 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 13 hours ago, Altai said: Yes we should arm them with nukes then. It`s a pity that you think so.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altai Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 7 hours ago, mazerunner said: It`s a pity that you think so.. I have learned to think in this way from Western countries. You are in general have pretty racist governments. If you have racist government this means you have high amount of racist people that votes for these racist govts. While this is the situation, an unarmed quest will have no effect. Yes we are in 21.century as you meant but brains are still in stone age and it will be soo as long as your personal ego overshadow your logic. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazerunner Posted October 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Altai said: You are in general have pretty racist governments. What govs?..... Who YOU?.. Maybe it`s you who is still as primitive as stone age`s people, but I`m not actually, sorry. I respect all nations, I don`t sort people by their skin color or the language they speak. Physically and psychologically (desires, aspirations and instincts) we are all the same, not considering any individual characteristics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altai Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 32 minutes ago, mazerunner said: What govs?..... Who YOU?.. Maybe it`s you who is still as primitive as stone age`s people, but I`m not actually, sorry. I respect all nations, I don`t sort people by their skin color or the language they speak. Physically and psychologically (desires, aspirations and instincts) we are all the same, not considering any individual characteristics Then how come you are ruled by racist govts ? Who elects them ? Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannucklehead Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 Racist Gov? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 5 hours ago, Altai said: I have learned to think in this way from Western countries. You are in general have pretty racist governments. If you have racist government this means you have high amount of racist people that votes for these racist govts. While this is the situation, an unarmed quest will have no effect. Yes we are in 21.century as you meant but brains are still in stone age and it will be soo as long as your personal ego overshadow your logic. Non-Western countries are more racist than Western countries, so I don't know what you're prattling about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 Maze all I can say is the US treatment of natives clearly is flawed as it is in Canada and whether we can address unresolved conflicts is not a high priority item. In Canada Trudeau proved he is all talk and his tears like his blackface was just a rich boy playing drama. Quote I come to you to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altai Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 Here a recent example https://www.trtworld.com/europe/protests-as-spain-jails-catalan-leaders-for-independence-bid-30575 Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 12 hours ago, Altai said: You are in general have pretty racist governments. If you have racist government this means you have high amount of racist people that votes for these racist govts. Says the Turkey who is committing genocide, as we speak. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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