Kerfuffle Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: Atheism is dying, due to lack of breeding. You're wishful thinking won't make religion go away instead. You have not a shred of proof your god exists but your faith which accounts for nothing....the bible is a plagiarized story from Greek mythology SHOCK CLAIM: The story of JESUS was 'copied from prior religions to CONTROL the people' https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/774752/JESUS-prior-religions-CONTROL-the-people-roman I could go on and on with links to your fairy tale religions. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/21/christianity-non-christian-europe-young-people-survey-religion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_of_Christianity https://www.thedailybeast.com/blame-evangelicals-for-the-decline-in-christian-faith https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-number-of-americans-with-no-religious-affiliation-is-rising/ http://www.pewforum.org/2018/06/13/young-adults-around-the-world-are-less-religious-by-several-measures/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted February 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 54 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: A belief in a individual rights and liberty. But Red Tories believe in a lot fewer individual rights and less liberty than blue tories. So no, that won't cut it. 54 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: Red Tories prefer more government intervention than Ron Paul would be comfortable with, They would horrify him and he they. You're simply wildly confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted February 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 52 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: It is horrifying to go over the top when the whistle blows as well, but for a Tory, an oath to the Queen is unto death as necessary. Red Tories don't really support the military much compared to Blue Tories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted February 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 48 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: The Declaration of Independence will free all the slaves, everywhere, including those who look down their "educated" noses at it. No matter how educated those who look down their noses at it perceive themselves to be, they will fail, the American Information Empire is the future, not just the past. Like Dougie says, can't kill an idea. The Crown Knows, hence UKUSSA. Red, White and Blue Machine will roll on despite the haters, Empire of Liberty FTW. God Save The Queen, God Bless America. Are you on meds? I mean, seriously? Are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 Just now, Argus said: Red Tories don't really support the military much compared to Blue Tories. I don't support the military. In a British Army, one upholds the Commander-in-Chief, the Corps, then the Regiment. The Department of National Defence is civilians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Argus said: Are you on meds? I mean, seriously? Are you? Do you have a point you'd like to refute, or is all you got ad hominem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted February 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 32 minutes ago, Kerfuffle said: Wonder how the prayers of the young children asking their god to stop the raping by their priests went......religion is an evil cult and serves no good. While I"m no great Catholic, the truth is the sexual abuse of children was widespread in society and widely ignored. Priests were no more statistically likely to abuse children than anyone else. That's not exactly much to brag about, mind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Argus said: But Red Tories believe in a lot fewer individual rights and less liberty than blue tories. So what? That doesn't mean that it's impossible to be a Red Tory with a libertarian streak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted February 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: Do you have a point you'd like to refute, or is all you got ad hominem? You didn't MAKE any point that needs to be refuted. You were blathering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted February 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: So what? That doesn't mean that it's impossible to be a Red Tory with a libertarian streak. Sure, like a Black Ku Klux Klansman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 Just now, Argus said: Sure, like a Black Ku Klux Klansman Not seeing the similarities between a Black Ku Klux Klansman, and a Red Tory with a libertarian streak. Walk me through that one, if you can, otherwise it is you who is just blathering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted February 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: I don't support the military. In a British Army, one upholds the Commander-in-Chief, the Corps, then the Regiment. The Department of National Defence is civilians. Well, genius. The military is one of the few things Libertarians DO support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: Not seeing the similarities between a Black Ku Klux Klansman, and a Red Tory with a libertarian streak. Walk me through that one, if you can, otherwise it is you who is just blathering. The Klan are Red Tories of sorts, republicans who threw themselves on the mercy of the British Crown, before they were cut down like wheat at the foot of Cemetery Ridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted February 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: Not seeing the similarities between a Black Ku Klux Klansman, and a Red Tory with a libertarian streak. Walk me through that one, if you can, otherwise it is you who is just blathering. Look up the term 'mutually incompatible'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Argus said: Well, genius. The military is one of the few things Libertarians DO support. Some libertarians do, some libertarians don't. Not all Libertarians support the military, especially the left libertarians. Clearly you think certain terms are far more constrained than they actually are, your definition of libertarian and red tory are simply too narrow for you to see the similarities, but both those terms are broader than you seem to imagine. Edited February 17, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 Just now, Argus said: Well, genius. The military is one of the few things Libertarians DO support. I am only bound by an oath, and a brotherhood, only brothers get support, those who do not serve can appeal to DND as they like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 Just now, Argus said: Look up the term 'mutually incompatible'. They aren't mutually exclusive terms dude, you just think they are, and cannot provide an evidence to back up that assertion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: The Klan are Red Tories of sorts, republicans who threw themselves on the mercy of the British Crown, before they were cut down like wheat at the foot of Cemetery Ridge. In that sense I suppose they are, but somehow, I don't think that's what Argus meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted February 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: They aren't mutually exclusive terms dude, you just think they are, and cannot provide an evidence to back up that assertion. And you know what, I don't give a shit. I really don't care how fucked up your world view is. My issue is that you and your idiot friend insist on fucking up every subject by shifting it away from the topic itself onto some bizarre shit about confederation and the queen and the US. If you two want to talk about that shit start a topic about it and keep it the hell out of other topics. Edited February 17, 2019 by Argus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: In that sense I suppose they are, but somehow, I don't think that's what Argus meant. He apparently has no historical perspective, rather instead lives in a bubble of sad and failing Canadian state run media talking points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Argus said: And you know what, I don't give a shit. I really don't care how fucked up your world view is. My issue is that you and your idiot friend insist on fucking up every subject by shifting it away from the topic itself onto some bizarre shit about confederation and the queen and the US. If you two want to talk about that shit start a topic about it and keep it the hell out of other topics. If it relates to other topics, and talking about it adds some insight, then we are going to bring it up. If you don't like that, too f***ing bad. Go cry to the moderators like the whiner that you are, they usually side with you even when we are perfectly on topic anyway. You post what you want, I won't tell you what to post, while I'll post what I want, and you'll try to tell me how to post. You are too soft to handle a level playing field, you hate on free speech despite claiming to be a libertarian (opinions you don't like are to be banned), you have no historical perspective which makes you think on-topic tangents are off-topic, plus you need moderation to be your crutch, clear signs of weakness on all counts. Edited February 17, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted February 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 26 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: If it relates to other topics, and talking about it adds some insight, then we are going to bring it up. If you don't like that, too f***ing bad. Go cry to the moderators like the whiner that you are, they usually side with you even when we are perfectly on topic anyway. The moderator and I have a long history of not really agreeing on much. But apparently he doesn't buy your unique belief that anything you want to insert into a topic 'adds insight'. And yes, I will indeed report your off-topic shit. I'm tired of it screwing up every damn subject. 26 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: You are too soft to handle a level playing field, you hate on free speech despite claiming to be a libertarian (opinions you don't like are to be banned), you have no historical perspective which makes you think on-topic tangents are off-topic, plus you need moderation to be your crutch, clear signs of weakness on all counts. You still don't get it. I have no difficulty destroying any argument you or your boyfriend make on any subject which interests me. My problem is that for the most part the shit you bring up is of no interest to anyone sane, and clutters up the web site. Start a topic about confederation and another on the war of 1812 for all I care. Go to town on it. Just keep that shit out of other subjects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 If this website is in the toilet, it's because of over-zealous moderation, not because over-zealous moderators who won't ban opinions that Argus doesn't like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Argus said: The moderator and I have a long history of not really agreeing on much. But apparently he doesn't buy your unique belief that anything you want to insert into a topic 'adds insight'. And yes, I will indeed report your off-topic shit. I'm tired of it screwing up every damn subject. You still don't get it. I have no difficulty destroying any argument you or your boyfriend make on any subject which interests me. My problem is that for the most part the shit you bring up is of no interest to anyone sane, and clutters up the web site. Start a topic about confederation and another on the war of 1812 for all I care. Go to town on it. Just keep that shit out of other subjects. You still don't get it, what you consider cluttering up the site is free speech, and you clearly are opposed to it when you don't like what others are posting, if they simply post often enough, in threads you happen to like. Libertarian my ass, you support censorship as if that will lead to rational discussion, when it most certainly will not. Edited February 17, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted February 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: If this website is in the toilet, it's because of over-zealous moderation, not because over-zealous moderators who won't ban opinions that Argus doesn't like. Is English a second language to you? There are all kinds of opinions on this site I don't like. Not much I can do about them except point out they're wrong. All I've said is you dougie houser need to stop derailing every damn subject with shit about confederation and the queen and how wonderful the US is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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