Dougie93 Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 I can abuse them tho, by way of the free market, by democratically joining financial armies when they start to bring the boom down short on Dingbat Canader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) Moreover, as "Canada" is simply Canadian Confederation, it's not actually backed up by anything, there's no force making us have a federal government, the constituion actually has an opt out clause written into it and affirmed by rendered judgement of the SCC. So Justin Trudeau is simply stating the obvious truth of it when he calls it a fake country. Because it is. There is no country here but the House of Windsor, which is above Canada's pay grade. However, the House of Windsor does meet the definition of a Westphalian State ( protects me, protects my interests, protects my rights ) ultimately backed by force, by UKUSSA UKUSSA being my 21st century de facto Virtual Westphalian Nation State, which is also above Canada's pay grade. Edited January 20, 2019 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 And as UKUSSA secures my interests, it's even easier for me to legalize dope and launch a populist Trudeaupe bomb at Canada's inside the beltway cucks, with practically no fallout for me at all, so burn baby burn. <puffs> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 3 hours ago, DocStrangelove said: How? I'll send you the book if you have enough band width.....And while each item is small when looking at the big picture, it's death by a thousands cuts...Perhaps you can point out all the good things he's done....other than weed, and even that is debatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) In the end, this is simply what postmodern looks like, the first modern states being from the Peace of Westphalia 1648, otherwise known as Westphalian Nation States which is countries. Canada is simply one of the weakest states on earth, in that it is merely a Domestic Self Governing Federation which never met the threshold of a Westphalian Nation State to start off with, so Canada is simply the first to fall at the onset of postmodernity, at now one fifth of the way into the 21st century. So, welcome to the future. Adapt, or perish by Darwinian forces. Edited January 21, 2019 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 And yet Canada remains one of the best countries in which to live and work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) Your tethered tax jurisdiction provinces have north south special access to a twenty trillion dollar economy, but they have that without Canada, and since there is no national interest, the east doesn't have the same interests as the west, the prosperity is not self generating by Canada, rather Canada is simply propped up by its provinces, not the other way round, Canada is actually a Vampire Squid sucking the life out of you and your real country provinces, and spreading its rot and corruption all through them, making a mockery of you and your actual interests. Edited January 21, 2019 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) And, in case you haven't noticed, the Americans have had enough of ingrate Canada biting the hand that feeds it, and so they have commenced the process of freezing Canada out, and any province which does not abandon the sinking ship, will not have special access to the twenty trillion dollar economy anymore, and those provinces will start to sink. At which point, a province is going to bolt, I would expect at Quebec. Then it's going to be a race between provinces to make a better deal with the Americans, so Ontario will move next, and then that's that, Confederation will collapse. Edited January 21, 2019 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centerpiece Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 On 1/18/2019 at 10:56 PM, bush_cheney2004 said: Well, even the cannabis rollout has gone poorly, but we will still give Trudeau that as one of the few campaign promises made and actually kept. In fact - Trudeau did next to nothing on cannabis - other than pass the law - and dump everything on the provinces to figure out how to implement it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) Canada is mostly represented by the people and interests that laid it out: railway (CNR), CP hotels, police (RCMP), and settlers (mostly from Northern Europe early on, then Southern Europe, Asia, Africa). New France and French Acadia had heavy government intervention from France early on in laying out the farms and roads (seigniourial system), Catholic missionaries, and the fur trade (Couriers de bois). Both the English and French competed to dominate the fur trade. There have been waves of immigrants since the English defeated the French, after the American Revolution, the Irish potato famine, the opening up of land for settlement in the Prairies, and so on. These groups, the sequence of their settlements, and the mutual influence, especially of French, English, and indigenous explain the historic cultural bonds of these peoples, who retained the cultural institutions of the English and French. The groups chose long ago to form a government that could provide the kinds of national supports and services that no one small group could manage alone. Don’t dismiss it. There’s shared history and values that bind the people. Edited January 21, 2019 by Zeitgeist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centerpiece Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 Instead of developing international relationships to the betterment of Canada - he has alienated just about every country/leader that he's come in contact with. China of course. The TPP was a debacle. Trudeau was a personal no-show at the signing ceremony - with no reason given. The Japanese PM was furious. Australia saif Trudeau "stabbed them in the back". The other participants had similar feelings. India - incredibly damaging and embarrassing. Belgium? He didn't even find the time to meet with the Royal couple. The US? After Trump had agreed to forego the NAFTA sunset clause - and on the eve of Trump leaving for a North Korea summit - Trudeau had the nerve to say "Canada would not be pushed around". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Centerpiece said: Instead of developing international relationships to the betterment of Canada - he has alienated just about every country/leader that he's come in contact with. China of course. The TPP was a debacle. Trudeau was a personal no-show at the signing ceremony - with no reason given. The Japanese PM was furious. Australia saif Trudeau "stabbed them in the back". The other participants had similar feelings. India - incredibly damaging and embarrassing. Belgium? He didn't even find the time to meet with the Royal couple. The US? After Trump had agreed to forego the NAFTA sunset clause - and on the eve of Trump leaving for a North Korea summit - Trudeau had the nerve to say "Canada would not be pushed around". The sunset clause was left in and Trudeau was absolutely right to complain about the unfair steel and aluminum tariffs. TPP is being questioned because of the potential trade imbalances it could make or maintain. Trudeau has been far less belligerent or damaging to Canada’s image in the world than Trump has been to America’s. Much depends on your political stance. I didn’t vote for Trudeau and I think he’s made mistakes, but compared to Trump and many western leaders today, he could be much worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 19 minutes ago, Centerpiece said: In fact - Trudeau did next to nothing on cannabis - other than pass the law - and dump everything on the provinces to figure out how to implement it. But that's how Canada works, that's what Confederation is, that is what Confederation means, all Ottawa does is collect the tax, other than the military, which is a shambles, and the foreign affairs, which is shambles, all other services are supposed to be delivered to you by the provinces, and pretty much most of them are, and things like cannabis are provincial jurisdiction so actually none of the Feds business, other than by criminal laws enforced in relation to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: But that's how Canada works, that's what Confederation is, that is what Confederation means, all Ottawa does is collect the tax, other than the military, which is a shambles, and the foreign affairs, which is shambles, all other services are supposed to be delivered to you by the provinces, and pretty much most of them are, and things like cannabis are provincial jurisdiction so actually none of the Feds business, other than by criminal laws enforced in relation to it. You need to get out of the cities to really see the value of the feds, in terms of policing, communications, and many basic services. In the biggest cities even provincial governments seem irrelevant. Infrastructure like the St. Lawrence Seaway, the Confederation Bridge, and the ice roads/shipping in the far north would be hard to manage without the feds. There’s also the support for education, health, and languages in remote communities. Quebec has a bigger voice in Canada than it would without a federal government to provide all services in French. Multiculturalism and progressive values also serve the government’s image well internationally. Canada is generally about multilateralism and solving problems at home and internationally. Edited January 21, 2019 by Zeitgeist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 Eskimo Communism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 48 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Eskimo Communism. Yeah those Inuit are like Pol Pot, murdering the intelligentsia and stealing the land from the elite city folk. Every time I go to buy milk I have to look out for spear-carrying secret police on dogsleds. That shit is real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 Eskimo Communism is not communism practiced by Eskimos per se, Eskimo Communism is communism in the name of saving the Eskimos from themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 Resulting in the Nanny Socialist Welfare Gulag Cultural Marxist Police State in progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) Justin Trudeau and Chrystia Freeland are vigourously begging for international support for their China problem, because Canada is the weakest link under a Trudeau government. Top of the list: United States of America President Donald Trump Quote Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland have held 19 high-level discussions with foreign heads of government, ministers and diplomats in an effort to rally support for several Canadians being held by China. According to the Liberal government, Trudeau held nine calls, including conversations with U.S. President Donald Trump, UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and European Council President Donald Tusk. Freeland's diplomatic outreach included 11 conversations with everyone from U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to U.K. Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt to the foreign ministers of Australia, Lithuania and the Czech Republic. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-freeland-china-diplomatic-push-1.4987378 Edited January 22, 2019 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 According to CNBC the Americans are going to go forward with the formal extradition request, which means talking to Trump didn't do much good, because the Americans withdrawing that request was pretty much the only way out for Canader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: According to CNBC the Americans are going to go forward with the formal extradition request, which means talking to Trump didn't do much good, because the Americans withdrawing that request was pretty much the only way out for Canader. Precisely....Trudeau has boxed himself in with "the rule of law", and he needs Trump to bail him out. No dice....unless he wants to deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 All to the good, if ever a government needed to be put in its place, it's the Trudeaupians Big Daddy Trump, President of Canada. Woot-woot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Team Trudeau continues to whine mightily, even as it is required to honour "the rule of law" and the extradition treaty. Can't have it both ways, especially as the weakest link. Quote Mr. MacNaughton told The Globe and Mail on Monday that he has voiced Canadian anger and resentment to the Trump administration about the dispute that resulted from the arrest of Ms. Meng. Beijing then detained two Canadians and imposed of a death penalty against a third. "We don’t like that it is our citizens who are being punished,” Mr. MacNaughton said in an interview. "[The Americans] are the ones seeking to have the full force of American law brought against [Ms. Meng] and yet we are the ones who are paying the price. Our citizens are.” https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-united-states-to-proceed-with-formal-extradition-of-huawei-executive/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 It's not punishing me. Go right ahead, China, give them what for. Bloody Canadians. Serves them right for getting into bed with communists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Why are they whining so much while continuing to worship at the "rule of law" alter ? Trump did not arrest the two Canadian perps in China (but there are over 800 Canadian "prisoners" in the USA)...far more than in China. Weakest link..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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