Canada the next venezuela.

[PIK]

 

 

We need to get rid of these fools once and for all. This is not funny anymore, this kid is a real danger.

[QuebecOverCanada]

"CANADA IS BACK"!!

Oh wait, we just became losers.

[Dougie93]

I'm not seeing the same structural problem in Canada as in Venezuela, which is wealthy land owning class with boot heels on throats of the masses, Canada is soviet as the Chavezistas are, but propped up by the Americans, Canada is able to bribe people with their own money for a much longer time, because unlike Venezuela, the United States has not frozen Canada out as of yet.  Venezuela being frozen out for seizing property, while Canada simply confiscates royalties as this juncture.

 

[QuebecOverCanada]

2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I'm not seeing the same structural problem in Canada as in Venezuela, which is wealthy land owning class with boot heels on throats of the masses, Canada is soviet as the Chavezistas are, but propped up by the Americans, Canada is able to bribe people with their own money for a much longer time, because unlike Venezuela, the United States has not frozen Canada out as of yet.  Venezuela being frozen out for seizing property, while Canada simply confiscates royalties as this juncture.

 

Well there is the money thing, then there is the structural thing, which is when socialism is implemented somewhere, it fails and creates either anarchy or totalitarian regimes (The Khmers Rouges were a combination of both, so was China during the Cultural Revolution).

[Dougie93]

You can take your profits in US dollars at Manhattan, Venezuelans can too, it's only a problem for you if you are relying on the nanny police states in Canada and Venezuela to run and fund your life for you.

While it may be distressing to witness the human suffering inherent to bolshevist regimes committing national seppuku, you are free to divest yourself of them and join us in the financial armies of the free market, where you can prosper by way of the creative destruction war against property seizure rather than become a collaterally damaged victim of it.

Edited January 17, 2019 by Dougie93

[Zeitgeist]

Yawn. If you want to protect yourself from totalitarianism, don’t elect politicians with fascist traits like Putin and Trump. 

[Dougie93]

Nor Justin Trudeau and the Sunny Ways fascism of the Liberal Party of Canada and associated CBC propaganda arm.

[Dougie93]

You may however exploit opportunist populists as political blast penetration weapons to incite creative destruction as you like,  as an operation in support of a strategic objective.

Edited January 17, 2019 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

But, again, just make sure you've divested yourselves of the nanny states before you go to incite their downfall.  

[QuebecOverCanada]

3 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Yawn. If you want to protect yourself from totalitarianism, don’t elect politicians with fascist traits like Putin and Trump. 

Or Hitler and Merkel

Spot the differences? Enormous, but I don't like them both, so I'm going to cheaply put them in the same basket for the sake of it since I'm also an idiot.

[Zeitgeist]

3 minutes ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

Or Hitler and Merkel

Spot the differences? Enormous, but I don't like them both, so I'm going to cheaply put them in the same basket for the sake of it since I'm also an idiot.

Well I agree with one of your claims.  

[Dougie93]

The way to protect yourself from totalitarianism is to stop identifying with the state and its interests as being the same as you and your interests, which is all totalitarianism really is.

[QuebecOverCanada]

8 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Well I agree with one of your claims.  

Cool, like I said, we're in the same boat together.

[turningrite]

21 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

Nor Justin Trudeau and the Sunny Ways fascism of the Liberal Party of Canada and associated CBC propaganda arm.

Trudeau and his "progressive" acolytes promote another form of top-down, anti-democratic totalitarianism. They're not democrats at heart but instead believe the world can and should be shaped by institutions, including government, to fit their own ideological agenda. Trudeau thinks that those who don't believe in this agenda are "fringe" and must not be afforded a voice. The problem for him, of course, will be that eventually a critical mass of voters could just say NO! to all the "progressive" nonsense. Perhaps Trudeau thinks there's no possibility that a protest movement like the "yellow vests" could emerge in Canada? If I were in his shoes, I wouldn't be so confident about this.

[Dougie93]

7 minutes ago, turningrite said:

Trudeau and his "progressive" acolytes promote another form of top-down, anti-democratic totalitarianism. They're not democrats at heart but instead believe the world can and should be shaped by institutions, including government, to fit their own ideological agenda. Trudeau thinks that those who don't believe in this agenda are "fringe" and must not be afforded a voice. The problem for him, of course, will be that eventually a critical mass of voters could just say NO! to all the "progressive" nonsense. Perhaps Trudeau thinks there's no possibility that a protest movement like the "yellow vests" could emerge in Canada? If I were in his shoes, I wouldn't be so confident about this.

Idealpolitik they are the world's First Post Soviet Marxist State.

Realpolitik, it's just Liberal Elites from Toronto and Montreal stealing the NDP's Post Soviet Marxist platform, to box the NDP out, which then boxes the Tories out, because the Tories can't win unless the left is split, resulting in another de facto Liberal dictatorship for another generation.

[Dougie93]

Idealpolitik; so they can save you from the looming Reb Menace of the American Conspiracy against Canada! Which is an inherently fascist position.

realpolitik; they just want to rule so Ontario can bribe Quebec with Alberta's money, to prop up a Confederation which actually has no national interests but rather its interests are opposed.

[Dougie93]

This by the way is exactly how the Russian Federation works from the Kremlin, to a tee, exact same Reb Menace Conspiracy, exact same federation by kleptocratic bribery,

[Dougie93]

The main difference being that the Kremlin, not being propped up by the Americans, has to do a better job of running it, which they do, because their dictator is a KGB trained paramilitary oligarch who survives by his whit and guile alone in a Hobbesian law of the jungle environment.  

Whereas your dictator really is just a substitute drama teacher.

[Zeitgeist]

56 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

The main difference being that the Kremlin, not being propped up by the Americans, has to do a better job of running it, which they do, because their dictator is a KGB trained paramilitary oligarch who survives by his whit and guile alone in a Hobbesian law of the jungle environment.  

Whereas your dictator really is just a substitute drama teacher.

I’ll take the drama teacher. 

[Dougie93]

I'll take the drama teacher as well, but as he is not Liz Windsor, I'm not bound to defend nor uphold him, and as he asserted Confederation to be Post National State, I'm not bound to defend nor uphold one of those neither.

[bush_cheney2004]

With Trudeau and the Sunshine Band, Canada has become the "weakest link".  

[Dougie93]

It was a failed state simply propped up by special access to the Hegemon's domestic market, long before the Kathleen Wynnderps went national, all they are doing is exposing the crumbled edifice of it, already in situ

[Zeitgeist]

36 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

With Trudeau and the Sunshine Band, Canada has become the "weakest link".  

Weak in terms of what?  I agree that Trudeau is naive, but the upside of that is that he is fairly non-threatening to everyone: Chinese, Americans, Indigenous, oil barons.  He’s the neighbor who doesn’t complain when you make a bit too much noise a bit too late at night.  Ironically Rob Ford had a bit of that going on too.  He talked about stopping the gravy train at city hall.  Meanwhile you knew he had his own excesses.  It was mostly rhetoric. The important thing is that pipelines get built, environmentalists feel they get some representation, and the various interest groups are fairly happy.  If he pisses too many people off, he’ll be gone in a year.  

[bush_cheney2004]

2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Weak in terms of what?  I agree that Trudeau is naive, but the upside of that is that he is fairly non-threatening to everyone: Chinese, Americans, Indigenous, oil barons.  He’s the neighbor who doesn’t complain when you make a bit too much noise a bit too late at night.  Ironically Rob Ford had a bit of that going on too.  He talked about stopping the gravy train at city hall.  Meanwhile you knew he had his own excesses.  It was mostly rhetoric. The important thing is that pipelines get built, environmentalists feel they get some representation, and the various interest groups are fairly happy.  If he pisses too many people off, he’ll be gone in a year.  

 

But that's the issue....domestically and internationally....many of them are very "pissed off" because of Trudeau's weaknesses and naivete.   I didn't coin the term "weakest link" in this context...it came from Canadian media.   

[Zeitgeist]

4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

But that's the issue....domestically and internationally....many of them are very "pissed off" because of Trudeau's weaknesses and naivete.   I didn't coin the term "weakest link" in this context...it came from Canadian media.   

I don’t disagree, but isn’t there appeal in the naive boy scout routine?  I don’t buy into it, but he’s very popular with women and millennials.