The Great Bomb Hoax - Why Now? Shades of Blasey-Ford

[WestCanMan]

35 minutes ago, Argus said:

This is a good topic to see which people should not be allowed outside without a nurse and a pair of attendants standing nearby with a handy straightjacket.

Here's one: 

 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, turningrite said:

According to a Huffpost article last year (link below), the immigration-driven Toronto and Vancouver housing markets are now more expensive than is New York's. So, if you're worried about money, New York is probably your better choice. If you're a professional, your income potential is probably much better in New York as well as Canada's government has long promoted a wage suppression scheme in this country. And all the theatre and great inexpensive restaurants add to New York's lifestyle allure. It seems to me that there's little contest in this comparison. Avoid Canada's big cities, except perhaps Montreal.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/01/24/toronto-nyc-affordability-house-prices_n_14344230.html

I didn't hate NY because of how much expensive it is, just how gross the people were.

I saw openly racist groups of people yelling at passers-by on the sidewalk. They called themselves the "lost tribes of Israel", a bunch of black people who want god to kill white people. There were hundreds of them dressed up like choir boys, 24 per corner, on all 4 corners of a couple of different intersections. Close to Central park, I don't know NYC that well obviously.

[Don Jonas]

So the suspect's van is covered in Trump stickers. What an elaborate false flag operation, eh centerpiece? I bet he even voted for Trump and attended his rallies just for a more believable cover. Those Democrats are way trickier than you could possibly conceive, I bet. Lol

[Shady]

2 minutes ago, Don Jonas said:

So the suspect's van is covered in Trump stickers. What an elaborate false flag operation, eh centerpiece? I bet he even voted for Trump and attended his rallies just for a more believable cover. Those Democrats are way trickier than you could possibly conceive, I bet. Lol

The bombs were fake.  He did it for attention.

[bush_cheney2004]

5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

All you have to do is give me the name of a presidential candidate that incited violence against his opponents at rallies, and threatened to jail his opponent after victory.

I'll check back later.

 

Governor George Wallace (Democrat)....perhaps Canadians were not as obsessed with American politics back then.

[Don Jonas]

1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Just for a lark...when did Trump call out to his supporters to "engage in violence"?

Any ideas?

 

[Don Jonas]

11 minutes ago, Truth Detector said:

The bombs were fake.  He did it for attention.

No, they had real explosives in them. There has been no report they were fake. You're just manufacturing a new story now that the story that it was a false flag operation is falling apart.

[Wilber]

He is a registered Republican with a long criminal record 

16 minutes ago, Truth Detector said:

The bombs were fake.  He did it for attention.

Sayoc is a registered Republican with a long criminal record.

 

Cesar Seyoc

Edited October 26, 2018 by Wilber

[Shady]

3 minutes ago, Don Jonas said:

No, they had real explosives in them. There has been no report they were fake. You're just manufacturing a new story now that the story that it was a false flag operation is falling apart.

Not quite.

https://www.wsaz.com/content/news/Local-bomb-expert-fairly-confident-bombs-are-hoax-explosive-devices-498583471.html

[Shady]

A law enforcement official says tests have determined that a powder found inside an envelope delivered to CNN along with a pipe bomb was harmless.

https://www.apnews.com/5c93ac06309c4ce88e8cd5023f89feca

[Shady]

5 minutes ago, Wilber said:

He is a registered Republican with a long criminal record 

Sayoc is a registered Republican with a long criminal record.

 

Cesar Seyoc

Yep.  So why does a person with a long criminal record send harmless stuff to people other than wanting attention?  I guess maybe to scare them.  I don't know.

[DogOnPorch]

22 minutes ago, Don Jonas said:

 

 

Pretty weak examples...but okay.  I thought you & Mike meant directly inciting violence like some top Democrats are doing.

Edited October 26, 2018 by DogOnPorch

[turningrite]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

I didn't hate NY because of how much expensive it is, just how gross the people were.

I saw openly racist groups of people yelling at passers-by on the sidewalk. They called themselves the "lost tribes of Israel", a bunch of black people who want god to kill white people. There were hundreds of them dressed up like choir boys, 24 per corner, on all 4 corners of a couple of different intersections. Close to Central park, I don't know NYC that well obviously.

Maybe some kind of protest? Who knows, but when I go to Yonge and Dundas in Toronto (which I seldom do anymore) it's often difficult to get through the hordes of protestors representing various causes as well as the omnipresent religious proselytizers. Such activities appear to be a staple of urban life in large North American cities. If you want to avoid them, I guess it's best to stick to suburban malls.

[Spiderfish]

14 minutes ago, Don Jonas said:

No, they had real explosives in them. 

A pipe full of explosive without a fuse or detonator is indeed technically a bomb, albeit pretty much useless without any way to detonate it.  It would be similar to mailing a deadly biological agent to someone in a vacuum sealed envelope packaged inside a reinforced container.  

It's becoming pretty apparent that this guy was not trying to kill or hurt anyone, only to affect prevailing political winds, instill fear, and grab headlines.  He certainly succeeded.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Spiderfish said:

A pipe full of explosive without a fuse or detonator is indeed technically a bomb, albeit pretty much useless without any way to detonate it.  It would be similar to mailing a deadly biological agent to someone in a vacuum sealed envelope packaged inside a reinforced container.  

It's becoming pretty apparent that this guy was not trying to kill or hurt anyone, only to affect prevailing political winds, instill fear, and grab headlines.  He certainly succeeded.

I bet now he wishes he'd just decided to campaign instead.

[DogOnPorch]

He seems like a real McCoy dyed-in-the-wool MAGA hat wearing nasty azz Trump fan...complete with creepy-guy van. And that too seems rather convenient....

No trouble catchin' him and spreading all we know about him, as well. 

[Wilber]

39 minutes ago, Truth Detector said:

Yep.  So why does a person with a long criminal record send harmless stuff to people other than wanting attention?  I guess maybe to scare them.  I don't know.

Maybe he is just incompetent. Probably took his explosives course at Trump U.

He liked to threaten judges as well. Just having some harmless fun right?

 

[Centerpiece]

22 hours ago, Centerpiece said:

It took a while to sink in but 10 devices - and none went off? That's because they weren't supposed to go off. All speculation of course but why now? Because of the upcoming mid-terms of course. Whoever's behind it has to be pretty smart to plan and carry out the hoax. Smart enough to know that it could severely damage the Republican image. That's why it can't be a Republican sympathizer. That leaves us with the Democrats and/or their operatives or an angry Democratic sympathizer - or you can go crazy and speculate it's a Russian (not likely). Par for the course, It'll be interesting to see how it unfolds.

Well - it seems my "speculation" was wrong - but hey, that's half the fun of following the American Circus. Looks like the perpetrator was in fact a Republican sympathizer with a long criminal record with all sorts of charges. Still a bit to unfold........

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, Centerpiece said:

Well - it seems my "speculation" was wrong - but hey, that's half the fun of following the American Circus. Looks like the perpetrator was in fact a Republican sympathizer with a long criminal record with all sorts of charges. Still a bit to unfold........

 

It alllllll seems rather...convenient, still. 

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

It alllllll seems rather...convenient, still. 

It does put one in mind of the Colin Farrell "orgy of evidence" scene in Minority Report.

[DogOnPorch]

8 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

It does put one in mind of the Colin Farrell "orgy of evidence" scene in Minority Report.

 

"This is all arranged..."

[Argus]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I saw openly racist groups of people yelling at passers-by on the sidewalk.

Was one of them named Trump?

[Argus]

1 hour ago, Truth Detector said:

Yep.  So why does a person with a long criminal record send harmless stuff to people other than wanting attention?  I guess maybe to scare them.  I don't know.

Or do you think maybe he just didn't know how to build the damn thing properly?

I mean, I know he learned how to build bombs on the internet, but sometimes even the internet is wrong.

[Argus]

1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said:

Pretty weak examples...but okay.  I thought you & Mike meant directly inciting violence like some top Democrats are doing.

If a Muslim preacher doesn't directly call for killing Jews, but instead just constantly preaches about how evil they are, and how they're a blight on society and how they're the enemy of Muslims - is that okay? I mean, he's not 'directly' telling his followers to kill Jews or anything. And if a few of his followers decide to kill Jews, that's not his fault, right?

[Don Jonas]

The FBI specifically clarified that these are not hoax devices. While people are still receiving them in the mail, it's extremely irresponsible to make up stories that they are fake, based on nothing but the good fortune that none have gone off yet. 

But of course, Trump supporters rarely worry about the negative consequences of their lies.