Solution to Federal Tanker Ban: Go Through Alaska

[-1=e^ipi]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/the-b-c-pipeline-project-you-ve-never-heard-of-and-why-it-may-succeed-1.4646892

 

As the federal government killed Northern Gateway with their tanker ban in order to protect the "Great Bear Rainforest", a name created by San Fransisco environmentalists while sipping wine in 1997, a Northern Gateway 2.0 pipeline is underway that will bypass the BC coast and instead go through Alaska.

 

I guess the people in Hyder, Alaska will get the jobs instead of the people in Kitimat, BC.

Edited May 5, 2018 by -1=e^ipi

[eyeball]

Probably better Alaska than BC given we'd be far more likely to cock something up and make a mess. A related recent case in point and reason why Alaska is probably the better choice from a global perspective...

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Pollution from Canadian refineries an ‘embarrassment’ compared to U.S.

The key culprit behind the Canada/U.S. emissions gap, say experts, is less rigorous industry regulation and enforcement in Canada.

 

One of the cases I often make against shipping Alberta's crap thru BC is the shitty sub-standard performance of our federal and provincial governments when it comes managing the protection of our natural ecosystems.  I realize there's bugger all that'll prevent us from contributing as much as we possibly can to climate change but maybe taking responsibility for shipping oil away from Ottawa and Victoria will help mitigate the potential for a more localized disaster.

This could be the one blessing to come out of all this.

Presumably Alaska has a better handle now on drunk tanker skippers.  

Edited May 6, 2018 by eyeball

[Queenmandy85]

19 hours ago, -1=e^ipi said:

I guess the people in Hyder, Alaska will get the jobs instead of the people in Kitimat, BC.

The Government of BC doesn't want the jobs.

[PIK]

On 5/5/2018 at 2:56 PM, -1=e^ipi said:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/the-b-c-pipeline-project-you-ve-never-heard-of-and-why-it-may-succeed-1.4646892

 

As the federal government killed Northern Gateway with their tanker ban in order to protect the "Great Bear Rainforest", a name created by San Fransisco environmentalists while sipping wine in 1997, a Northern Gateway 2.0 pipeline is underway that will bypass the BC coast and instead go through Alaska.

 

I guess the people in Hyder, Alaska will get the jobs instead of the people in Kitimat, BC.

What about all the ships coming in and out hauling BC coal all over the world. The solution is trudeau saying it is a done deal and the shovels go in the ground tomorrow.

Edited May 7, 2018 by PIK

[taxme]

On 5/5/2018 at 9:57 PM, eyeball said:

Probably better Alaska than BC given we'd be far more likely to cock something up and make a mess. A related recent case in point and reason why Alaska is probably the better choice from a global perspective...

One of the cases I often make against shipping Alberta's crap thru BC is the shitty sub-standard performance of our federal and provincial governments when it comes managing the protection of our natural ecosystems.  I realize there's bugger all that'll prevent us from contributing as much as we possibly can to climate change but maybe taking responsibility for shipping oil away from Ottawa and Victoria will help mitigate the potential for a more localized disaster.

This could be the one blessing to come out of all this.

Presumably Alaska has a better handle now on drunk tanker skippers.  

Spoken like a true environmentalist who prefers to see jobs go down the drain rather than see jobs being created not to forget the tax revenue from all those jobs. If the environmentalists could get their way we would all be living in shacks in the bush. I guess according to you both governments should be stopping the flow of all the oil in Canada in pipelines. That should make you happy, right? Geez, maybe we should just stop all oil tanker traffic all over world because if one or ten do get involved in an accident and sink then what is going to happen to all those fishy's in the ocean? 

There was once a mountain called Mount St. Helen's that blew it's head off. The damage to the environment was immense. Millions of acres of land and trees destroyed. Countless fish and wildlife died. Rivers were created and destroyed even more land and people's property. But you know what? Ten years later life started to return. Today, it is hardly noticeable that there was once a volcano that blew it's top off in the Mount St.Helen's area and the world survived. So, if there is an oil spill somewhere, so what? It will get cleaned up eventually and all will get back to normal. It will be just a slight interruption in a fishy's life. They will learn to adapt and survive. Thanks to the environmental movements countless jobs have been lost or never got to be created. Millions in tax dollar revenues lost also. I enjoy living in a home with running water and electricity that run all my appliances and my toys. If you are such an environmentalist then why don't you go live in the bush for a couple of years and live with the trees and the animals. Maybe then you might realize that sometimes the environment must suffer a bit so people can enjoy the 21st century, and not want to go back to the 1st century. 

So, there was one drunk captain who caused an oil spill. That does not mean that all skipper's are a bunch of drunks. So, you think that all skipper's are drunks and that maybe all oil tankers should now be banned so another oil spill does not happen again? Alaska will probably be the place for the pipeline to go as the fools called environmentalists in Canada are against everything that is associated with progress, jobs and tax revenues. Accidents happen, live with it. It won't be the end of the world. 

 

[taxme]

On 5/5/2018 at 11:56 AM, -1=e^ipi said:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/the-b-c-pipeline-project-you-ve-never-heard-of-and-why-it-may-succeed-1.4646892

 

As the federal government killed Northern Gateway with their tanker ban in order to protect the "Great Bear Rainforest", a name created by San Fransisco environmentalists while sipping wine in 1997, a Northern Gateway 2.0 pipeline is underway that will bypass the BC coast and instead go through Alaska.

 

I guess the people in Hyder, Alaska will get the jobs instead of the people in Kitimat, BC.

Might as well give it to them as it would appear that some minority of whiny environmentalist Canadians don't want it. Why does a small minority always get their way in life and the majority are always forced to go along with them? The majority should rule not a minority. The majority is in favor of this pipeline but again all it takes is for a few whiny crybabies who are always against progress and big projects all the time and seem to get their own way just about most of the time.  

[taxme]

On 5/6/2018 at 7:25 AM, Queenmandy85 said:

The Government of BC doesn't want the jobs.

The NDP government of BC does not want jobs. They prefer the welfare system instead. 

[taxme]

4 hours ago, PIK said:

What about all the ships coming in and out hauling BC coal all over the world. The solution is trudeau saying it is a done deal and the shovels go in the ground tomorrow.

I am pretty sure that the environmentalists will continue to do whatever they can to try and disrupt any shovels from going into the ground. Environmentalists appear to get a free pass when it comes to going to jail for all the criminal act offences that they commit like mischief that they like and enjoy to cause and create and do every day. A pampered bunch of pooches I must say.  

[Bonam]

5 hours ago, taxme said:

There was once a mountain called Mount St. Helen's that blew it's head off.

It's still there, just a thousand feet shorter than it used to be. The dome is rebuilding itself nicely in the crater. 

[taxme]

19 hours ago, Bonam said:

It's still there, just a thousand feet shorter than it used to be. The dome is rebuilding itself nicely in the crater. 

 

This just shows that no matter what happens as a result of some natural environmental catastrophic event nature will always come back swinging fix things up and create new life. Whatever humans have done to cause environmental damage on earth for centuries is nothing compared to what nature has done to itself. Eventually nature will clean it all up. These environmentalists and environmental groups always get themselves whacked out for nothing. 

Edited May 8, 2018 by taxme

[cannuck]

Humans ARE nature.  Whatever we do is "natural" in every sense.  We as a species are going to use up all of the petroleum resources on Earth, so it would be foolish for Canadians not to share in the process.   Too bad nobody has the stones to simply shut the valves off and let BC find out just how much they count on these nasty hydrocarbons in their everyday life.