-TSS- Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 How many of you who complain that a foreigner is leading your left-wing party would have voted for that party if weren't led by a foreigner? I doubt not that many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted April 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: That's what I keep saying. Cut immigration departments, and simply require people to have jobs before they move to Canada. We don't need immigration laws, right ? I know you actually want lots of government control over immigration and expect them to change their ways to "Canadian" Okay, but we end all social welfare programs. Because a very wise economist named Milton pointed out that open immigration cannot exist with a welfare state. You want open immigration like we had in the nineteenth century? Okay. Same conditions. Come and work. Feed yourself and your family or die. And it's no skin off my nose either way. No government assistance to them of any kind, no health care, no welfare, no housing, no pensions other than what they pay into, no language or training assistance, no nothing. And the minute they break the law (no legal assistance either) they're booted out with no appeals. Edited April 9, 2018 by Argus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 10 minutes ago, Argus said: Okay, but we end all social welfare programs. Because a very wise economist named Milton pointed out that open immigration cannot exist with a welfare state. Even better, we can require that they pay into social insurance programs that will cover this. 10 minutes ago, Argus said: You want open immigration like we had in the nineteenth century? Okay. Same conditions. Come and work. Feed yourself and your family or die. And it's no skin off my nose either way. No government assistance to them of any kind, no health care, no welfare, no housing, no pensions other than what they pay into, no language or training assistance, no nothing. And the minute they break the law (no legal assistance either) they're booted out with no appeals. It's insurance, man... it's all insurance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted April 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Even better, we can require that they pay into social insurance programs that will cover this. It's insurance, man... it's all insurance... It's TAXES, man, it's all taxes. By the way, we end progressive taxes. If they're gonna live here they're gonna pay taxes just like I do. Why should I be paying for the roads and bridges and schools and police and fire department they use? No child care benefits, either. All that stuff has to go. Edited April 9, 2018 by Argus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Argus said: It's TAXES, man, it's all taxes. By the way, we end progressive taxes. If they're gonna live here they're gonna pay taxes just like I do. Why should they get anything for free? Because you're selling to 'em, your economy is growing and as an old stock Canadian you are benefiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted April 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Because you're selling to 'em, your economy is growing and as an old stock Canadian you are benefiting. Bullshit. My economy is growing? How does that help me? If I invite a guy over for dinner and he brings more food then I have more food, sure, but more people eating it. So I have no benefit there. More people means more demand for goods and services? Sure, and more people working to satisfy that demand. No benefit to me there either. Edited April 9, 2018 by Argus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 55 minutes ago, Argus said: Bullshit. My economy is growing? How does that help me? Said no conservative ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: Even better, we can require that they pay into social insurance programs that will cover this. That's if they find work for a decent wage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted April 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: Said no conservative ever. I couldn't help but notice you failed to address the question, let alone answer it. So far our 'growing economy' means higher deficits, higher debt, more crowding and higher taxes. I'm supposed to be happy with that? Edited April 9, 2018 by Argus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 Our PM, Trudeau is from Quebec., how much more foreign can you get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 On 4/9/2018 at 1:21 PM, Argus said: A nation's culture needs no government assistance. If the government stays out of it a national culture will form on its own as people mix and meld and work and live together. Most government aid seems to be designed to prevent that happening. Argus, I tend to disagree. A government should help artists. The State? Maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 Sikhs have a lot less influence over Canadian politics than Jewish-Canadians with Israeli citizenship and nationalism. But I guess that's okay, since they're not brown. At least the European ones. Let me know if questioning this particular so-called ethnic group's influence over the government is wrong but questioning those brown guys is okay. Here is an article that's going to make those who advocate selective free speech cring: Canada’s Israel Lobby By Peyton Vaughan Lyon Professor Emeritus, Political Science, Carleton University D.Phil., Oxford March 2010 Dr. Lyon is Professor Emeritus Political Science, Carleton University. He was a Rhodes Scholar, and obtained his D.Phil. from Oxford University. He served in the RCAF from 1940 to 1945. He held posts as Foreign Service Officer, Department of External Affairs in Ottawa, Canada and in Bonn, Germany. He is the author of five books on Canadian foreign policy, trade and defence. https://www.scribd.com/document/28435074/Peyton-Last-Final 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 8 hours ago, marcus said: Sikhs have a lot less influence over Canadian politics than Jewish-Canadians with Israeli citizenship and nationalism. But I guess that's okay, since they're not brown. At least the European ones. Let me know if questioning this particular so-called ethnic group's influence over the government is wrong but questioning those brown guys is okay. Here is an article that's going to make those who advocate selective free speech cring: Canada’s Israel Lobby By Peyton Vaughan Lyon Professor Emeritus, Political Science, Carleton University D.Phil., Oxford March 2010 Dr. Lyon is Professor Emeritus Political Science, Carleton University. He was a Rhodes Scholar, and obtained his D.Phil. from Oxford University. He served in the RCAF from 1940 to 1945. He held posts as Foreign Service Officer, Department of External Affairs in Ottawa, Canada and in Bonn, Germany. He is the author of five books on Canadian foreign policy, trade and defence. https://www.scribd.com/document/28435074/Peyton-Last-Final I knew an Israeli who was kinda brown. Ish... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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