Candidate Roy Moore for Senate.

[bush_cheney2004]

5 minutes ago, Boges said:

Ahhh so you concede a recount would be fruitless. 

 

Moore has the option for a recount if he wants to pay for it.  

Doesn't matter to me either way...was never invested in Moore or any other candidate in that race.

 

[Boges]

7 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Doesn't matter to me either way...was never invested in Moore or any other candidate in that race.

Invested enough to continue to post about it even after he's lost. 

Even if you're not invested in the goings on in Alabama, having another Democrat Senator is huge for Trump's agenda. Now only two Republicans need to be flipped to block any legislation. Corker is already out on the Tax Bill, Now if Collins, McCain and Flake can be flipped it's dead. 

So any Republican should be invested. 

[bush_cheney2004]

4 minutes ago, Boges said:

Invested enough to continue to post about it even after he's lost. 

Even if you're not invested in the goings on in Alabama, having another Democrat Senator is huge for Trump's agenda. Now only two Republicans need to be flipped to block any legislation. Corker is already out on the Tax Bill, Now if Collins, McCain and Flake can be flipped it's dead. 

So any Republican should be invested. 

 

But I'm not a Republican.   I'm already on record here for not voting Trump because of deficits/debt.   But he is great for illegals.

U.S. politics is chugging along just as it always has...what's the big deal compared to previous elections ?

It is never "over" because of one by-election.

 

[RB]

Candidate reduced to a hashtag

#nomoore

 

[?Impact]

Donald was actually [semi] conciliatory last night, how very adult of him:

Congratulations to Doug Jones on a hard fought victory. The write-in votes played a very big factor, but a win is a win. The people of Alabama are great, and the Republicans will have another shot at this seat in a very short period of time. It never ends!

Of course he woke up again as a child:

The reason I originally endorsed Luther Strange (and his numbers went up mightily), is that I said Roy Moore will not be able to win the General Election. I was right! Roy worked hard but the deck was stacked against him!

 

 

Edited December 13, 2017 by ?Impact

[Argus]

Glad Moore lost but this is not really any reason for the Democrats to celebrate. They picked up one senate seat but they'll lose one when Franken resigns. And their boy barely squeaked through against an accused child molester. Unless Bannon manages to get similarly unlikely candidates installed around the country the Democrats need to up their game by giving people a reason to vote for them other than they're better than Trump. The fact 68% of whites still voted for Moore is an indication that to far, far too many blue collar whites the Democrats remain the party of someone else, the party that doesn't represent them and doesn't care about them. 

[Argus]

11 hours ago, Boges said:

Sure but he fully endorsed Moore going into the election. Many Republicans didn't. 

I don't suspect Jones will be re-elected in 2020. But in 2020 Trump will be facing re-election (assuming he's still in office), so I double people will remember this. What this does do, is making it MUCH easier for the Dems to take back the Senate next year. 

As far as winning control of House and Senate goes, good luck with that. Of the 33 Senators up for re-election next year 25 are Democrats or independents who vote Democrat. and 11 of them are in states which Trump won big last year. Only 8 Republicans are up for re-election. As for the House, the Democrats would have to win all their existing seats and take about 25 from the Republicans. Given all the gerrymandering that goes on with House districts, again, good luck.

[bush_cheney2004]

6 hours ago, Argus said:

Glad Moore lost but this is not really any reason for the Democrats to celebrate. They picked up one senate seat but they'll lose one when Franken resigns.

 

Nope....Democrat Tina Smith (Lt. Governor) has already been appointed by the governor of Minnesota...she will take office when Franken goes bye-bye.

[Boges]

2 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Nope....Democrat Tina Smith (Lt. Governor) has already been appointed by the governor of Minnesota...she will take office when Franken goes bye-bye.

Luther Strange was appointed to but thanks to Steve Bannon, he got primaried. 

[Boges]

Moore has yet to concede. He hasn't even called Jones. 

Such a Chreeestians 

[bush_cheney2004]

2 minutes ago, Boges said:

Moore has yet to concede. He hasn't even called Jones.

 

There is no requirement to do so.

[Boges]

1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

There is no requirement to do so.

Nope, it's just what decent people do. Which Moore clearly is not one. Awful people that wrap themselves in Jesus are the most galling of all. 

[bush_cheney2004]

3 minutes ago, Boges said:

Nope, it's just what decent people do. Which Moore clearly is not one. Awful people that wrap themselves in Jesus are the most galling of all. 

 

Good enough for Senator Al Gore in 2000...praise Jesus.

[Boges]

3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Good enough for Senator Al Gore in 2000...praise Jesus.

That was an spread of a few hundred maybe. This was at least 20,000 votes. 

It was actually Gore that finally threw in the towel, his team wanted to keep fighting. 

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, Boges said:

That was an spread of a few hundred maybe. This was at least 20,000 votes. 

It was actually Gore that finally threw in the towel, his team wanted to keep fighting. 

 

So what ?   Gore lost...he refused to concede until the U.S. Supreme Court stopped the nonsense.

 

[Boges]

1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

So what ?   Gore lost...he refused to concede until the U.S. Supreme Court stopped the nonsense.

But they heard the case. Lets see if Moore tries that. 

[bush_cheney2004]

5 minutes ago, Boges said:

But they heard the case. Lets see if Moore tries that. 

 

Gore would have lost the recount too.    All Moore is doing is using existing state law for a paid recount.

In 2000, Bush was the petitioner, not Gore.

Edited December 18, 2017 by bush_cheney2004

[-TSS-]

Unless I'm mistaken the special election in Alabama was only for the remainder of the original term- not full senator's six years- therefore a perfect opportunity to smack at an incumbent president.

I don't doubt for a second that the Hollywood film-moguls are pigs and guilty as charged concerning the allegations against them.

As for Moore, one would actually hope that the allegations were true as the allegations against him was the only reason why he lost.

[Boges]

How can you tell someone is a racist? 

They challenge an election they lost because they think the high voter turnout in a largely black district has to be voter fraud. 

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/12/roy-moores-last-gasp/549332/