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Justin Trudeau the Worst PM Since Pierre Trudeau?


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In the context of Canada emulating the Americans, Trudeau is basically Canada's Obama moment, where the Elites over promise and under deliver, the populist backlash comes in the wake when sad failing Liberal Party of Canada sad fails come crashing back down on the middle classes.

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7 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Thankfully, the Flight to Quality is not subject to the Canadian Bolsheviks, obviously if Ivan in all his glory could not hold an Iron Curtain, the dingbats in downtown Toronto are of no significance to the markets whatsoever.

Toronto and Vancouver are consistently rated among the top cities in which to live and work.  Canadian cities are booming.  People “voting with their feet”.  I’m not an economic nationalist anyway.  Our economies are integrated and that won’t change anytime soon.  The country we should probably be more worried about is Britain, on the brink of a political crisis. 

Looks like a no confidence vote and a possible botched Brexit.  Another thread. 

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2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Toronto and Vancouver are consistently rated among the top cities in which to live and work.  Canadian cities are booming.  People “voting with their feet”.  I’m not an economic nationalist anyway.  Our economies are integrated and that won’t change anytime soon.  The country we should probably be more worried about is Britain, on the brink of a political crisis. 

 

No...this is just more defensive worrying about maintaining the old order.    Others will embrace the coming chaos and disorder as natural and a great opportunity.

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Well, Toronto has been berry berry goo to me, but the trick with real estate is taking profits, so after you have sold the property in Toronto, you have to take the money and run, moving to where you can buy a comparative palace in relation to what you sold into the Toronto market.

If you just turn around and buy another hyper expensive Toronto property, you didn't get anywhere, because you didn't keep the profits, and long term the real estate markets basically just keep up with inflation, so if you don't sell high in Toronto and then move to where you can buy low, you've defeated the purpose of real estate speculation.

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20 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I think there needs to be all out political and economic opposition to China, but Canada can’t do it alone.  I’m not sure Trump can do it either. He’s too buried in domestic opposition and wrangling over the border wall.  It may sound radical, but I think it may be our last opportunity.  China has big plans. 

There's a good column by Brian Lee Crowley on the G&M website that serves as an indictment of sorts of Trudeau's obsequious China policy, noting that China's current strategy directly relates to its perception of Trudeau's and Canada's weakness. This should be required reading for all voters in this election year. Now we know not only that Trudeau wasn't ready for the PM role but, even worse, that his weakness has seriously undermined Canada's reputation and interests.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-china-smells-weakness-so-its-picking-on-canada/

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3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

True...Doug Ford has told Jerry Diaz (Unifor dinosaur) to give up the struggle for Oshawa, and turn attention to GM information engineering jobs elsewhere in Ontario.

But some won't ever give up their "right" to build American cars in Oshawa.

I used to agree with the hands off approach, but if the private sector can’t play a role in the retraining or employment of citizens, I’m not sure governments can fill the hole.  What do you do with all these unoccupied people?  This may be the future for all developed countries. There’s a certain inevitability to guaranteed income.  Don’t know the answer there.  More education and competition inevitable. 

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1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

I used to agree with the hands off approach, but if the private sector can’t play a role in the retraining or employment of citizens, I’m not sure governments can fill the hole.  What do you do with all these unoccupied people?  This may be the future for all developed countries. There’s a certain inevitability to guaranteed income.  Don’t know the answer there.  More education and competition inevitable. 

 

Okay, but why should Ontario be spared the same fate that has visited the Maritimes for many decades now.   It's not called "pogey" for 'nuthin.

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1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

No argument here....to China, Canada under Trudeau is indeed the "weakest link".

 

What has happened is that the Liberal Party of Canada has started to huff on its own glue.   These Gerry Butts Liberals read their own press releases about China being the next Hegemon, when that used to just be pablum that they fed to their nanny socialist welfare base,  while the Elites themselves continued to live under the protections of the Americans happily, nudge-nudge wink-wink, we're still with you America, we just feed the Eskimo Communism to the plebs.

 

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This is how propping Canada up became an American Cold War now legacy project, because with the rise of Eskimo Communism, the Americans just looked the other way, under the doctrine of "yeah, they're commies, but at least they're our commies, working for us"

The problem is when the Eskimo Commies actually stop working for  the Hegemony and actually start working for the commies, which is where we are now.

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4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

...The problem is when the Eskimo Commies actually stop working for  the Hegemony and actually start working for the commies, which is where we are now.

 

It is fascinating to watch...in just a few short years under Justin Trudeau, Canada has become an international piñata, getting whacked by everybody.

 

 

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It's like Dougie says, Confederation is a failure, and the goals of confederation could be better achieved outside of the shotgun marriage. If that were to happen, the Eskimo Communists will of course react like the Sky Is Falling Chicken Little Faggots that they are, just look at how triggered they are at the mere mention of the hypothetical on this forum, it's a sight to behold.

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Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

It is fascinating to watch...in just a few short years under Justin Trudeau, Canada has become an international piñata, getting whacked by everybody.

Indeed, it's bizzaro world, I wouldn't even preclude a Five Eyes coup de tat take down here if this keeps on the same vector.   

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Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

It's like Dougie says, Confederation is a failure, and the goals of confederation could be better achieved outside of the shotgun marriage. If that were to happen, the Eskimo Communists will of course react like the Sky Is Falling Chicken Little Faggots that they are, just look at how triggered they are at the mere mention of the hypothetical on this forum, it's a sight to behold.

Brock and Tecumseh certainly never fought for Canadian Confederation, definitely Tecumseh didn't, and Brock was dead in the opening volley anyways.

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4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

This is how propping Canada up became an American Cold War now legacy project, because with the rise of Eskimo Communism, the Americans just looked the other way, under the doctrine of "yeah, they're commies, but at least they're our commies, working for us"

The problem is when the Eskimo Commies actually stop working for  the Hegemony and actually start working for the commies, which is where we are now.

No, it was about business opportunity and hope that China was making real political progress, but China just isn’t as cool as we thought.  Again, Trudeau was naive and I sometimes wondered if he would’ve been comfortable with the One Child Policy.  His exclusion from the party of pro life candidates and his summer jobs pro choice hiring requirement was creepy and very China. 

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3 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

It's like Dougie says, Confederation is a failure, and the goals of confederation could be better achieved outside of the shotgun marriage. If that were to happen, the Eskimo Communists will of course react like the Sky Is Falling Chicken Little Faggots that they are, just look at how triggered they are at the mere mention of the hypothetical on this forum, it's a sight to behold.

See we have more to worry about from people like you than the Liberal Party.  Really, “faggot”?  

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1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

No, it was about business opportunity and hope that China was making real political progress, but China just isn’t as cool as we thought.  Again, Trudeau was naive and I sometimes wondered if he would’ve been comfortable with the One Child Policy.  His exclusion from the party of pro life candidates and his summer jobs pro choice hiring requirement was creepy and very China. 

That would explain Canada hedging it's bets, but it does not explain Canada actively embracing being Beijing's puppets while alienating America to appease the Eskimo Communists hatred of the Bad Orange Man.

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5 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

See we have more to worry about from people like you than the Liberal Party.  Really, “faggot”?  

Oh no, not a non-politically correct phrase! If you think using the word "faggot" is more worrying than the Liberal Party of Canada, it's because you're an Eskimo Communist.
/shrugs

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1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

That would explain Canada hedging it's bets, but it does not explain Canada actively embracing being Beijing's puppets while alienating America to appease the Eskimo Communists hatred of the Bad Orange Man.

Hedge bets for what tho?   The collapse of the American Hegenomy?   That would take Beijing down to, so Beijing is not even a hedge.

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5 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

So what would he have done in the Meng situation?

I don’t think Wuawei would’ve been given so much license under Harper and I think he’d go to the wall diplomatically, closing doors, which Trudeau seems afraid to do.  In fairness to Trudeau, Harper didn’t have Trump to deal with.  Trump doesn’t seem to respect allies.  It’s hard for Trudeau to discern whether he can count on US support. The POTUS has lost credibility and trust this past year. 

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3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Hedge bets for what tho?   The collapse of the American Hegenomy?   That would take Beijing down to, so Beijing is not even a hedge.

Hedging bets for the SIFCLF's who moronically believe that the collapse of the American Hegemony is imminent, and Canada is full of these anti-American Bolshies. Like you say, even as a hedge, it makes no sense, but as political pandering, it makes perfect sense.

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1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

I don’t think Wuawei would’ve been given so much license under Harper and I think he’d go to the wall diplomatically, closing doors, which Trudeau seems afraid to do.  In fairness to Trudeau, Harper didn’t have Trump to deal with.  Trump doesn’t seem to respect allies.  It’s hard for Trudeau to discern whether he can count on US support. The POTUS has lost credibility and trust this past year. 

 

Harper had to deal with Obama instead...certainly no walk in the park.

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