Smallc Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Argus said: Oh really? Seen FOX lately. I understand it's Trump's favorite news source. TORONTO – Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has a message for refugees rejected by U.S. President Donald Trump: Canada will take you. So, that's not what he said, but it is essentially true. Canada will not discriminate based on geography or religion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted January 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Smallc said: So, you're wrong again. Dual Canadian citizens who also happen to be citizens of the 7 named countries cannot enter the United States of America. Legal immigrants and refugees from those 7 countries residing in Canada could yesterday legally enter the United States - now they can't. Why is that any of your business? Or mine? Or Trudeau's? The Americans have the right to have whatever control of their borders they want without Trudeau putting his snide, sanctimonious nose into it. And just how many "dual" Canadian citizens from the seven countries involved could and would have entered the US anyway? A minuscule number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Smallc said: So, you're wrong again. Dual Canadian citizens who also happen to be citizens of the 7 named countries cannot enter the United States of America. Legal immigrants and refugees from those 7 countries residing in Canada could yesterday legally enter the United States - now they can't. They sure can't...will have to fly to another departure point for the U.S. But they will get more points for their fabulous Air Miles rewards cards ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted January 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) So, that's not what he said, but it is essentially true. Canada will not discriminate based on geography or religion. Or religious extremism, or ability to ever make a living in Canada. Don't worry! We'll pay for all of you! Well, the half of Canadians who actually still pay income taxes will pay for all of you! Edited January 29, 2017 by Argus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Just now, Argus said: Why is that any of your business? Or mine? Or Trudeau's? You don't think that the Prime Minister of Canada should care if the US is excluding Canadians from entering the US based on citizenship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Just now, Argus said: Or religious extremism, or ability to ever make a living in Canada. Don't worry! We'll pay for all of you! Well, the half of Canadians who actually still pay income taxes will pay for all of you! So those are alternative facts that you have no actual basis for. Try to stick to actual facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Just now, Smallc said: You don't think that the Prime Minister of Canada should care if the US is excluding Canadians from entering the US based on citizenship? Canadians have no right to enter the U.S., or any other nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 BTW Argus, I like how you left out the next line: "The Prime Minister is looking forward to discussing the successes of Canada's immigration and refugee policy with the President when they next speak," Trudeau spokeswoman Kate Purchase told The Associated Press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 20 minutes ago, Argus said: Note that the cite I gave was from an NBC station off the AP wire. Other American media will be running with it too. So it's quite likely Trump will read it. Meh... we don't need to kowtow to American policy/presidents. Ask Trudeau Sr., Chrétien, and a few others... we do fine setting ourselves apart from 'Murica. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Canadians have no right to enter the U.S., or any other nation. Not at all, but if such bans are done in a systematic way, it's definitely the concern of the Government of Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueblood Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Canadians have no right to enter the U.S., or any other nation. Some confuse rights with privileges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Just now, Smallc said: Not at all, but if such bans are done in a systematic way, it's definitely the concern of the Government of Canada. Don't like President Trump's policies ? Then stay out of the U.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Don't like President Trump's policies ? Then stay out of the U.S. Unfortunately, my upcoming flight itinerary was a lot cheaper on United. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Don't like President Trump's policies ? Then stay out of the U.S. It's pretty dull in that part of Canada...the Mall of America shining jus' down the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted January 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, Smallc said: You don't think that the Prime Minister of Canada should care if the US is excluding Canadians from entering the US based on citizenship? He's not excluding them. He's excluding foreigners. They came to Canada and we let them in. What, they're not happy here? They want to go to the US? BTW, the US excludes many, many Canadians all the time for the flimsiest of reasons. The Canadian PM has never gotten involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Just now, DogOnPorch said: It's pretty dull in that part of Canada...the Mall of America shining jus' down the way. I've actually only been to Minneapolis once in my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Just now, Argus said: He's not excluding them. He's excluding foreigners. They came to Canada and we let them in. Canadian citizens are not foreigners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Just now, Smallc said: Unfortunately, my upcoming flight itinerary was a lot cheaper on United. And there it is folks...why so many "superior" Canadians "tolerate" the evil 'muricans and evil 'muricA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted January 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, The_Squid said: Meh... we don't need to kowtow to American policy/presidents. Ask Trudeau Sr., Chrétien, and a few others... we do fine setting ourselves apart from 'Murica. 75% of our exports go to the US, which is in the midst of a crazed protectionist re-write of all its trade policies by a petulant, vindictive man notoriously intolerant of criticism. You think this is the right time to taunt him about refugees? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Argus - from your linked FOX story: "We understand that as Canadians we are almost all immigrants, and that no one should be excluded on the basis of their ethnicity or nationality," Tory said in a statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Smallc said: I've actually only been to Minneapolis once in my life. My wife is from St Peter...BC2004, of course, you know already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted January 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Just now, Smallc said: Canadian citizens are not foreigners. These ones are being kept out specifically because of their foreign passports. Therefore, they are foreigners by definition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Just now, Argus said: 75% of our exports go to the US, which is in the midst of a crazed protectionist re-write of all its trade policies by a petulant, vindictive man notoriously intolerant of criticism. You think this is the right time to taunt him about refugees? No one taunted anyone. Relax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: And there it is folks...why so many "superior" Canadians "tolerate" the evil 'muricans and evil 'muricA. Hey, if I can fly United to Hong Kong for less than cost, I'm happy to take their seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Just now, Argus said: These ones are being kept out specifically because of their foreign passports. Therefore, they are foreigners by definition. It doesn't matter which passport they travel on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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