Argus Posted January 29, 2017 Report Posted January 29, 2017 This started as a status update but after 35 back and forth replies in under an hour I decided it ought to be discussed in more depth. Tonight, Trudeau, clearly referencing Trump's ban on refugees, decided to get into doing controversial tweets himself. "To those fleeing persecution, terror & war, Canadians will welcome you, regardless of your faith. Diversity is our strength #WelcomeToCanada," Not only is this grossly stupid in that we have the example of what Merkel's open arm policy for refugees has done to all of Europe, basically tearing about the EU, not to mention the crime and violence and the cost of tens of billions to Germany, but it's clearly aimed at the very thin skinned Donald Trump. It's an implicit criticism of him, if not an outright taunt. This at a time when Canada is trying to stay under the radar and not get the notoriously temperamental Trump angry at us. AP) - Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has a message for refugees rejected by U.S. President Donald Trump: Canada will take you. http://www.wgrz.com/news/canadian-pm-trudeau-sends-welcome-tweet-to-refugees/394143789 1 Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
?Impact Posted January 29, 2017 Report Posted January 29, 2017 Only the clueless, and extremely partisan, would suggest that this means that limits as to numbers do not exist. This was clearly a response to Donald Trump and his attack on Muslims. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted January 29, 2017 Report Posted January 29, 2017 Looks like no limits to me: open the flood gates...Islam does not play well with others. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Posted January 29, 2017 Why is Canada afraid of President Donald Trump ? Show those 'muricans who is boss when it comes to Muslim refugees and immigrants. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Smallc Posted January 29, 2017 Report Posted January 29, 2017 9 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Looks like no limits to me: open the flood gates...Islam does not play well with others. In what way do the set limits look limitless to you? Quote
Smallc Posted January 29, 2017 Report Posted January 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Why is Canada afraid of President Donald Trump ? Show those 'muricans who is boss when it comes to Muslim refugees and immigrants. Who said anything about being afraid? Quote
DogOnPorch Posted January 29, 2017 Report Posted January 29, 2017 Just now, Smallc said: In what way do the set limits look limitless to you? You're free to both practice and support Islam. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Posted January 29, 2017 Just now, Smallc said: Who said anything about being afraid? Go back and read the OP...last sentence...fourth paragraph. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Smallc Posted January 29, 2017 Report Posted January 29, 2017 Just now, DogOnPorch said: You're free to both practice and support Islam. You're free to not answer the question. It's an answer in itself. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted January 29, 2017 Report Posted January 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Smallc said: Who said anything about being afraid? The "Left" is terrified. Here comes Steve Bannon....fleeeeeeeee! Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted January 29, 2017 Report Posted January 29, 2017 6 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Why is Canada afraid of President Donald Trump ? Show those 'muricans who is boss when it comes to Muslim refugees and immigrants. We're not afraid, we're disgusted. 1 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
DogOnPorch Posted January 29, 2017 Report Posted January 29, 2017 Just now, Smallc said: You're free to not answer the question. It's an answer in itself. I have no intention of getting in your way re: your personal quest to become one with Islam. It's wanting ALL of us to join you that is causing the issues. Saudi Arabia is that way, Muslim. -----> Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Posted January 29, 2017 Just now, eyeball said: We're not afraid, we're disgusted. Then why react to President Trump's policy at all ? Why didn't PM Trudeau use America's Twitter to announce this big welcome months ago ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted January 29, 2017 Report Posted January 29, 2017 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: Then why react to President Trump's policy at all ? Why didn't PM Trudeau use America's Twitter to announce this big welcome months ago ? He wanted to rub your nose in it I guess. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Smallc Posted January 29, 2017 Report Posted January 29, 2017 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Then why react to President Trump's policy at all ? Why didn't PM Trudeau use America's Twitter to announce this big welcome months ago ? Pretty sure this isn't the first time he's used 'American' (Murica) Twitter to say something like this. It obviously bothers you a lot. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Posted January 29, 2017 Just now, eyeball said: He wanted to rub your nose in it I guess. So PM Trudeau is reacting to President Trump. The mark of a true leader ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted January 29, 2017 Report Posted January 29, 2017 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: So PM Trudeau is reacting to President Trump. The mark of a true leader ! The whole planet is reacting to the mark of a true moron. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Posted January 29, 2017 Just now, Smallc said: Pretty sure this isn't the first time he's used 'American' (Murica) Twitter to say something like this. It obviously bothers you a lot. No, it's just fun to mock Canada's PM using 'Murica's Twitter and other social media to try and upstage 'Murica's new president...again. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Posted January 29, 2017 1 minute ago, eyeball said: The whole planet is reacting to the mark of a true moron. Yes...PM May just concluded her visit to solicit trade and military support. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Argus Posted January 29, 2017 Author Report Posted January 29, 2017 28 minutes ago, ?Impact said: Only the clueless, and extremely partisan, would suggest that this means that limits as to numbers do not exist. This was clearly a response to Donald Trump and his attack on Muslims. And how does Trump usually reply to people who criticize his policies? What this was was clearly that Justin Trudeau couldn't restrain his desire to show how smugly progressive he was, without regard to what affect that might have with the temperamental Trump. It was juvenile. 1 Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted January 29, 2017 Author Report Posted January 29, 2017 Note that the cite I gave was from an NBC station off the AP wire. Other American media will be running with it too. So it's quite likely Trump will read it. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Posted January 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Argus said: And how does Trump usually reply to people who criticize his policies? What this was was clearly that Justin Trudeau couldn't restrain his desire to show how smugly progressive he was, without regard to what affect that might have with the temperamental Trump. It was juvenile. Yes...Trudeau is trying to play Trump's game using Trump methods...and he looks like a foolish wannabe instead of a "statesman". President Trump wins again ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Smallc Posted January 29, 2017 Report Posted January 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Argus said: And how does Trump usually reply to people who criticize his policies? What this was was clearly that Justin Trudeau couldn't restrain his desire to show how smugly progressive he was, without regard to what affect that might have with the temperamental Trump. It was juvenile. It was nothing of the sort. Trump's policies have been countered over the last few days by a plethora of countries, from China to Mexico to Denmark to Canada and Scotland. This administration has thus far been an unmitigated disaster in a way that I had never predicted. Quote
Argus Posted January 29, 2017 Author Report Posted January 29, 2017 As I've posted earlier, " A recent report by the Canadian Border Services Agency (CBSA) estimates that each refugee claimant who has their application rejected by the Canadian Immigration and Refugee Board (IRB), due either to lack of evidence of persecution in their home country or failing to show up to refugee hearings, costs the Canadian government over $50,000." Given Trudeau has removed the visa requirements for Hungary and Mexico, which each produced tens of thousands of phony refugees each year, and given this open invitation to refugees to come here, I think we can expect the number of applicants to soar in the coming months. 1 Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Smallc Posted January 29, 2017 Report Posted January 29, 2017 Just now, Argus said: Given Trudeau has removed the visa requirements for Hungary Without that, it's quite likely we wouldn't have gotten CETA. Would that have been better? Quote
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